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    Scrafty


    Type: Dark / Fighting


    Tier: OU


    Stats
    Hp 65
    Atk 90
    Def 115
    SpA 45
    SpD 115
    Spe 58

    Total: 488


    Introduction

    Blessed with Dark / Fighting typing and decent stats all around, Scrafty lives up to its reputation of being a bad-*** ghetto lizard. Sporting good defenses, decent Attack, and two different boosting moves in Bulk Up and Dragon Dance, Scrafty is a versatile threat, viable on both balanced and offensive teams. The combination of Rest and Shed Skin is another neat perk of Scrafty's that allows it to heal itself somewhat reliably and distinguish itself from similar Pokemon. While its low Speed and weakness to Fighting-type moves hold it back from being a top-tier threat, Scrafty has just the right moves, stats, and typing to find a niche in the standard metagame.



    Movesets

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    Dragon Dance

    Scrafty @ Leftovers
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 Hp
    Trait: Moxie / Shed Skin
    Jolly Nature
    - Dragon Dance
    - Hi Jump Kick / Drain Punch
    - Crunch
    - Ice Punch / Taunt / Stone Edge

    Although its less-than-stellar Speed and average Attack make it an odd choice, Scrafty makes an excellent user of Dragon Dance. It is blessed with Dark- and Fighting-type STABs in Hi Jump Kick and Crunch that are resisted by only Heracross and Toxicroak, neither of which is extremely common. It also has the choice of two fantastic abilities in Moxie and Shed Skin. Moxie is preferred as it gives a +1 Attack boost after each kill, boosting Scrafty’s modest Attack to intimidating levels. On the other hand, Shed Skin allows Scrafty to set up on Pokemon that it otherwise could not, such as Will-O-Wisp Jellicent and Thunder Wave Ferrothorn, although this comes at the price of needing more boosts to sweep efficiently. Drain Punch is an acceptable option over Hi Jump Kick as it gives Scrafty some much-needed recovery and has a 100% hit rate, although there is a notable difference in power as Scrafty can no longer 2HKO physically defensive Hippowdon after a Dragon Dance. Ice Punch allows Scrafty to dispose of certain bulky Flying-types, such as Gliscor, Zapdos, and Dragonite. Life Orb makes Scrafty an immediate power threat, while Leftovers can potentially allow him to gain more Dragon Dances under his belt.

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    With a Jolly nature and maximum Speed investment, Scrafty is able to outrun up to positive-natured base 111s, most notably Thundurus and Tornadus, and obliterate them with Ice Punch. An alternate spread of 140 HP / 176 Atk / 192 Spe with an Adamant nature is usable as it actually makes Scrafty stronger and bulkier, but at the cost of Speed. For example, after one Dragon Dance it will only be able to outspeed neutral-natured base 100s at best, making Scrafty more susceptible to Pokemon such as Infernape and Terrakion. Even with no investment in defenses, Scrafty makes great use of its 65 / 115 / 115 base defenses in withstanding common priority, as even a Mach Punch from an Adamant Conkeldurr will never OHKO Scrafty.

    Scrafty doesn't have many options other than the ones listed already. It can use Stone Edge for Gyarados, but other than that, Ice Punch vastly outclasses it. Scrafty can run a moveset of Dragon Dance / Rest / Drain Punch / Crunch with Shed Skin to reliably set up on weaker Pokemon, such as Gliscor, but it is susceptible on the turns Shed Skin does not activate. Scrafty faces much competition from other Dragon Dance users, such as Dragonite and Salamence, so it is important to make sure when you are making your team that you are fully utilizing Scrafty for its niche to hit many Pokemon with its great STAB attacks; otherwise you are probably better off using something else. Finally, Chople Berry deserves a special mention as an alternative item choice. This allows Scrafty to survive an otherwise fatal blow such as Terrakion's Close Combat or Conkeldurr's Drain Punch, provided that Scrafty has a reasonable amount of health left. However, it is situational, and in other instances you may miss out on valuable Leftovers recovery or the power boost provided by Life Orb.



    Bulk Up

    Scrafty @ Leftovers
    EVs: 252 Hp / 248 SpD / 8 Atk
    Trait: Shed Skin
    Nature: Careful / Impish
    - Bulk Up
    - Drain Punch
    - Crunch / Dragon Tail / Payback
    - Rest

    Scrafty's impressive bulk, in conjunction with its typing and ability, make it a fine user of the move Bulk Up. Drain Punch and Crunch, both of which receive STAB, have excellent coverage together, hitting all but Heracross and Toxicroak for at least neutral damage. Drain Punch also has the advantage of restoring Scrafty's HP while simultaneously dishing out damage, making Scrafty even more difficult to KO. After accumulating enough boosts, Scrafty can simply use Rest to completely restore its HP, and thanks to Shed Skin, potentially wake up immediately after using the move with no consequences. The EVs maximize Scrafty's ability to take special attacks, as its Defense will be boosted by Bulk Up.

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    Payback is an option over Crunch; while it has 100 Base Power when going second, it no longer doubles in power on the switch and only hits for a meager 50 Base Power against notable threats such as Reuniclus and Cofagrigus. Dragon Tail is another viable option over Crunch, allowing Scrafty to beat opposing stat boosters such as Conkeldurr, Salamence, and Suicune. Dragon Tail also has the advantage of hitting all Pokemon bar Shedinja for at least neutral damage alongside Drain Punch, although Dragon Tail will generally not hit as hard as Crunch.

    Scrafty can also be EVed to outspeed certain threats such as Metagross, Scizor, and Vaporeon; however, you are usually better off simply investing in its defenses. While Scrafty's Special Defense is very good, it will still fold to powerful special attacks such as Virizion's Focus Blast, so exercise caution when setting up.



    Other Options

    An anti-lead set can work effectively, as Fake Out can be used to break any Focus Sash that the opposing Pokemon may hold, while having the rest of Scrafty's movepool to eliminate the opposing threat. However, with the advent of team preview, designated leads are practically non-existent.

    In addition to what has been previously listed, Scrafty also has access to Head Smash, Stone Edge, Fire Punch, and ThunderPunch (among other moves). However, Scrafty is better suited to using Ice Punch on the Dragon Dance set, as it otherwise has difficulty defeating the omnipresent Gliscor, Dragonite, and Salamence. Finally, Hi Jump Kick is an option on the Bulk Up set for a boost in power, but is generally not worth the lack of reliability and self-healing.



    Checks and Counters

    Physically bulky Pokemon, such as Hippowdon, Skarmory, and Swampert, can phaze Scrafty out as long as it isn't the last Pokemon on its team. Powerful Flying- and Fighting-type moves can inflict serious damage on Scrafty, as long as it hasn't yet accumulated numerous Bulk Up boosts, or if they're special. Good users of these moves are Terrakion, Virizion, Staraptor, and Conkeldurr. Users of Trick and Encore will also cripple most Scrafty sets, as they can lock Scrafty into Bulk Up or Dragon Dance. While Scrafty has decent defenses, boosted hits from certain powerhouses such as Latios will often be too much for Scrafty to handle.



    Dream World

    Scrafty gets Intimidate as an alternative ability from Dream World; while still a great ability, it is often overshadowed by either Moxie or Shed Skin, depending on the set. However, Intimidate is still viable on any set, as it may come in handy in some situations, particularly when trying to prevent a sweep by a physical attacker.





    Conclusion
    Do not be fooled but his things Mediocre Stats and low usage in OU, it is one of those things that can sweep your team with proper support. Unlike Whimmsicott, Scrafty has a bright future and its only getting brighter. (PLEASE DO NOT SAY "Whimmsicott / Ninjask / Electvire are so much better" Because they are NOT!

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    nice job on this, and ummm yea, DD is much better because Scrafty usually needs the speed.
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    DD is usually a million times better on a team, and you should put in lum berry as an option for it as with moxie and one time immunity to priority, it is much easier to sweep.
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    i find scrafty useful if its DD
    DD to raise its speed and attack
    moxie if you keep killing
    use life orb
    drain punch to recover LO damage
    HJK can be used but its risky
    Ice punch to get rid of gliscors,dragons,etc
    And crunch to get rid of psychics and ghosts
    and also good defenses
    a dangerous threat
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    Scrafty shouldn't be underestimated. I've never used one, but I think the Bulk Up set would be extremely useful on a bulky offense team. If you maximize Sp. Def and HP with an Adamant nature, then ****'s goin down. It gets perfect coverage from its STABs, and has a semi-reliable way to replenish health, as well as a good ability.


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    Hmm. I am quite disappionted at you people for thinking that DD is much better, Bulk up Scrafty is just as dangerous, but harder to use (LIKE OILMAR IN SSBB ARRGGGG)!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucario44444444 View Post
    Hmm. I am quite disappionted at you people for thinking that DD is much better, Bulk up Scrafty is just as dangerous, but harder to use (LIKE OILMAR IN SSBB ARRGGGG)!
    Bulk Up Scrafty is a lot easier to set up with sometimes since it has Shed Skin and decent bulk, but I'm far more scared of DD variants. If you get a good set up opportunity and can kill something for the Moxie boost, it's often GG right there. What's more is that, for example, while Gliscor can Taunt and set up on a Bulk Up variant (provided it runs Rest, which all BU variants should), DD variants OHKO with Ice Punch and just keep going. Let us also not forget that Scrafty, with its strong defenses and excellent coverage, is one of the few Pokemon who can really take advantage of Moxie.

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    ugh, this thing's DD set has always been a pain to me...pretty good poke overall, if i ran one i would probably do the DD set all the way


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    Quote Originally Posted by I Hate Flyers View Post
    I think Bulk up Scrafty is one of the best sets in OU, as lucario think DD Scrafty is one if the best sets in OU, Lucario why do you always oppose me?
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    I love scrafty
    im looking for a moxie scrafty lv 80+

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    DD set has so much power, even more with shed skin since moxie dodesnt fit in it that well. Bulk up one is also very good however it has nothing to hit gliscor with or some dragons who can phaze away with dragon tail.
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    I find it annoying how people say that DD is sooo much better, BU is just as good

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    DD Scrafty is just typically better for the raw power it has. With perfect coverage between its STAB moves and Ice Punch it can just muslce through anything with little trouble. If you pair it with things like hidden power fire landorus to weaken Skarm it can literally destroy a whole team after a single boost. Its something that should never bet taken lightly. The bulk up sets are great too because between shed skin and the extra bulk they can often set up easier however they're usually much easier to counter due to the slow speed and weaknesses to fairly common attacking types. All in all Scrafty is a pretty underrated mon and shouldn't be taken lightly.
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    DD turns him into a physical sweeper while Bulk Up turns him into a physical tank/ TR sweeper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucario44444444 View Post
    Whats new, Captain Obvious?
    Most certainly not the fact that DD Scrafty is better. -w-

    It's never the matter of which Set-up move variant I should use, but rather the matter of which DD set I shoud use. Should I use Lum Berry with Moxie? OR Life Orb with Shed Skin? They both work so darn well that it becomes so hard 2 choose sometimes that I end up not using him at all 'cause it FRUSTRATES ME 2 NO END.

    Though all in all, Scrafty is pretty legit. Just gotta dispose of that pesky Skarm...>>




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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalSonic View Post
    Most certainly not the fact that DD Scrafty is better. -w-

    It's never the matter of which Set-up move variant I should use, but rather the matter of which DD set I shoud use. Should I use Lum Berry with Moxie? OR Life Orb with Shed Skin? They both work so darn well that it becomes so hard 2 choose sometimes that I end up not using him at all 'cause it FRUSTRATES ME 2 NO END.

    Though all in all, Scrafty is pretty legit. Just gotta dispose of that pesky Skarm...>>
    Life orb shed skin works better
    since all you seriously need is +1 or2 for scrafty and your set

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    Quote Originally Posted by mycooly View Post
    Life orb shed skin works better
    since all you seriously need is +1 or2 for scrafty and your set
    Mebe.

    However, the constant Attack boost that's net for every KO ensures you'll be having an easier time with each incoming Poke. Usually the defensives that are thrown in after the first KO can get help you get an extra DD in as they try to set up or status you.

    'CEPT THAT DARN SKARM.




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    Have you tried the Expert Belt on the DD set? I've had some really good success with it.

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    Meh doesnt matter
    +2 can usually rock any poke's sh!t except skarm

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    Quote Originally Posted by mycooly View Post
    Meh doesnt matter
    +2 can usually rock any poke's sh!t except skarm
    +3 kills Skarm after rocks

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    Quote Originally Posted by mycooly View Post
    Meh doesnt matter
    +2 can usually rock any poke's sh!t except skarm
    And you know...various other defensive Poke's...especially those phazers...>.>




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    ^The point is it can OHKO enough phazers, thanks to moxie+DD boost, being easy to get ready with his bulk.

    I'm thinking about adding one to my rotations battle team...It's bulky offense so far.
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    Dragon dance RestoChesto sweeps so many teams.
    Almost every team I see in the RMT section hasn't got a counter to it.

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    Lum Moxie DD is the best in my opinion. Just use DD to set up, then rape with Moxie. If something manages to burn you after it's worked out you have Moxie then Lum comes in. The lost recovery is gained from drain punch. Make sure it's a very bulky set.

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    The best set here is Bulk Up + Rest + Shed Skin. It gives both power and durability.
    Max Attack, Max Speed, with HJK and Ice Punch, it destroy everything.



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