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    Yeah, even when Ash loses to his rivals (which is mostly every time except the League), while the rivals are jerks, they're all competent. Well, Ash losing to Paul for four years was annoying, but it was leading up to something. Although starting Unova off with another Pikachu defeat didn't help. But anyway, Cabernet was just a jerk and talking big (and so is probably closer to some of the older Coordinator rivals).

    Wow, this episode was hilarious. Its great having a character so... energetic. Heck, she probably had more expressions in five minutes (specifically the recap of her "revenge" scheme) than Ash has in five episodes. No idea what they're saying, of course, but I can guess from the flashbacks, expressions and what everyone else has said in this thread.

    Oh sure, insult all the Pokemon, yeah, they're not happy. And then Cilan walks in and she gets even angrier. Her "memory" of evil Cilan is ridiculous, but oh so funny, especially with the mwa-ha-ha. And instead of simply training for a rematch, maturing, etc., no, she has to go into the same career as Cilan to try and show him up. And after all of that, turns out he left in the meantime. Huh, she still got the badge though, she could make a nice rival for Ash too (as long as Ash doesn't have to lose to her too often).

    And then it comes down to a battle of course. Even better nice to see Cilan dominating it, after all of Ash's defeats outside of Gyms and the League, its nice to see a main character winning. Too bad all of his advice is still just bouncing off her thick skull. Oh well, until she comes around, she'll make a great recurring character, just hope she doesn't stoop to cheating or something to get her revenge on Cilan, especially with TR (huh, almost miss them these days) no longer the pathetic villains of the show.

    Still don't care too much about the Sommelier thing, but still, adding a rival, especially one as memorable as this, makes for fun episodes, and was mostly worth the long break between episodes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moltanic View Post
    Cilan was not battling Cabarnet just to torment her, he was trying to teach her a lesson about arrogance and maturity.

    Cabarnet lost to Cilan in battle once back when she was still a rookie trainer and instead of handling her defeat graciously and realizing she needed to improve, instead she decides to hold a petty grudge. Flash forward one year and in addition to winning the Striaton City gym badge, she's also become a C Class sommelier. Although this is huge step up for her from the year before, she's let her success go to her head and still holds a petty grudge.

    Cilan's won his battle to prove to her that she still has a long way to go if she wants to be as skilled a sommelier as she thinks she is. It doesn't seem like this has really sunk in however because she acts like a sore loser. Which gives her a reason to make a return appearance in a future episode.


    Oh, now I get it. Thanks.


    Also, did anyone else wonder about why there's an S rank that's higher than an A rank? I remember the same thing was in the first season of Zoids. The Blitz Team were in Class A and at the season finale they bumped up to Class S

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Munchlax View Post
    Oh, now I get it. Thanks.


    Also, did anyone else wonder about why there's an S rank that's higher than an A rank? I remember the same thing was in the first season of Zoids. The Blitz Team were in Class A and at the season finale they bumped up to Class S
    S class usually is Higher than A class.

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    S Ranks are higher than A Ranks in Sonic games also. It was nothing strange to me.

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    Yah S seems to always be higher then A in games I've played, but I have no idea why. I'm sure there is a reason behind it, if not then I find it pretty odd.
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    the C<B<A<S thing seems to be a Japan thing. Don't ask me why. It just is.
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    OMG, that sly expression that Dento gave Cabinet/Cabaret, or whatever kitchen or household item name she had, was priceless, and I just LOVE the way he throws a pokeball!!

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    I'm not sure why "S" is the highest, but I would GUESS it comes from "super" or "superior" or something like that that implies it's surpassed even "A" rank. Just a guess.

    Yay! Finally the fact that one of Ash's traveling companions is a Gym Leader actually matters outside of their own Gym town!

    EDIT: "Evil Cilan" looks awesome . . .
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    S is also the highest rank when capturing a Pokemon in Ranger XD
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    S is always the best rank, I don't see anything wrong with that.


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    Yeah I'm also used to the ranking of S being superior to A class.

    The, C, B, A, S ranking system is almost very similar to the whole: Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum ranking.

    I mean ignore anything you know about Platinum for a moment, and one would assume it makes no sense for something random like Platinum to be ahead of Gold (something that because of lack of knowledge at the time, caught my attention), but I never knew why, so I just accepted. Curiosity got the better of me, and I found out Platinum is actually worth more than Gold, so then it clicked.

    The S rank being the highest is pretty similar, in that it likely means Superb meaning top of the class, you succeeded in doing better than A. Sure maybe the whole F, D, C, B, A report card gets you confused, but if I remember correctly, S's are used in Kindergarten (or maybe higher, can't remember the grading system they used in Elementary School) as they rank your skills in certain areas of learning. So I'm used to S's being the highest grade possible, though I can see how the whole school grading system in the later years can get you confused.
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    i wonder if Cabaret will be a recuring character
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    I for one can appreciate Dento's skillful victory, we have enough underdogs, that we can afford a clean, strategic battler.

    So far Dento vs. Cabernet is my top battle this season.

    Looking forward to Ash developing new strategies also, shame he's always reset to zero each region.

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    This episodes gives Cilan more character development (or more like face development). We're getting to the golden episode of his debut.

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    Everyone wants Ash to have all of the rivals but he already has two. I hope Cilan keeps Cabernet as his rival.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elekible-Kid View Post
    Looking forward to Ash developing new strategies also, shame he's always reset to zero each region.
    His "reset" pretty much ended by episode 6 or 7.

    It's good that they expanded on what a Sommelier actually is, because without knowing the context, it sounds like Dent/Cilan is just spouting a bunch of BS. Very interesting battle.

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    So apparently Ash's Sewaddle has the Swarm ability, being confirmed by Cabernet
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    dento was fricking scary in that episode

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    It was nice to see a main character being the dominant rival in this for once. Also Dwebble continues to be awesome.

    I've also seen the S A B C ranking in Advance Wars if that means anything to anyone
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    This episode was alright. It was great to see Mebukijika for the 1st time, in its Spring Form. It was cool to see Futachumaru again. Cabernet was a really bad Sommelier and a stubborn one as well. It was funny when Tsutarja, Kurumiru, Mijumaru, Pikachu, Zuruggu and Pokabu all attack Cabernet when she was insulting them. It was cool to find out that Kurumiru's ability was Swarm. Dent battled Cabernet really well. Ishizumai used its Sturdy ability to hang on, and then be able to take down Futachumaru. Yanappu did very well against her Mebukijika, easily taking it down with Solarbeam. Dent was very scary the way he was talking to her.

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    This episode was quite enjoyable. It was funny to see al of Ash's Pokemon attack her when they insulted them. We found out Swadloon's ability is Swarm. It was cool to see Cilian battle her. It was cool to see Dewott and Sawsbuck. 7.5/10

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    I gotta admit that I wasn’t very excited for this episode when the previews for it were shown. It looked like Cilan was getting a rival, but she didn’t look too interesting. I’m super glad that I gave this episode a chance, though. That Cabernet chick is totally insane. Like, Charles Manson insane. She makes Harley and Ursula look like angels by comparison. I did like that she’s also a Pokemon Connoisseur, though. That makes things a whole lot interesting. I also loved that she started out with an Oshawott. I mean, it is the world’s best Pokemon, after all. Cabernet does have good taste. The actual battle between Cilan and Cabernet was decent enough. Dewott was really cool and Sawsbuck was an unexpected surprise. Overall, I’m glad we have another interesting rival. I give this episode a 9/10.

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    The episode was average ;P.
    That Cabernet girl was very annoying.... but at least she cared about her Pokemon .
    Dento was very epic in battling... his Dwebble was good (I almost forgot that he had caught that cute little Dwebble).

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    What a creep. I'm glad that Cilan defeated this Cabernet in Ash's defense. Who does she think she is? That C-Rank connoisseur doesn't even realized Pikachu have an extremely strong bond with Ash through all those years since his Kanto days. His other unova pokemon gets stronger every challenge they faced. She's has no right to talk to them like that. About Cilan having dark personality, its kind of scares me. But anyway, I'm glad that Cilan schooled Cabernet about bringing out the best in pokemon. And if he haven't won, then it could be the end of Ash and Pikachu. What was she thinking of doing something like that such destroying the love between Ash and his pokemon? If Cabernet challenge Ash, then it will be an instant game over for her. Especially up against not only caring,and determinated but also a pretty much of an advanced and strong trainer who travelled through five regions (Kanto,Orange Islands,Johto,Hoenn,and Sinnoh). Back on topic, Cilan now have a new rival who have such arrogance like Paul,Ursula,and Trip. Don't count Gary, he used to be but he changed for the better.
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    Cabernet was annoying and creepy. That's all.

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