As some of the people might have noticed, despite of the rule that said you're not allowed to trade hacks here, lots of hacks are actually circulating inside this forums, both unknowingly and knowingly. Therefore, I made this to ensure that we're on the same line here before we trade.
What's hacked pokemons?
Hacked pokemon is defined by me as "any pokemon that comes to existence through aids of external devices not done by Nintendo and the Pokemon Company".
By my definition, there are 3 major levels of legitimacy when it comes to pokemons:
: The pokemon is perfectly pure, with no hacking done in obtaining at all. These include any pokemon caught inside the game or in DW without any aid from anything else but your effort in actually finding them and catching them.
: The pokemon is semi-legit. They are hacking device used in obtaining them, but not directly. Most of these are actually indistinguishable from legit pokemons, and are undetectable by any legitimacy checker. These pokemons include pokemons from hacked Wondercard, Extralink Editted pokemons and pokemons hatched from the egg produced by legal-looking hacked parents (for example, Pokesav'd or AR'd flawless Ditto).
: These pokemons are out of the question. They are purely created using hacking devices, such as Pokesav, PokeGen and AR. Legitimacy checker can pick these guys up, as these pokemons usually will have something like invalid PID (if the hacker is really an amateur) or invalid terminator sequence. These included "impossible" pokemons and legit-looking hacked pokemons.
Rules regarding hack
1. Let me make it VEEERRRRY clear...I don't trade hack nor do I accept hack!
I'm extremely sensitive of the matter. If you have just one obvious hack in your list, expect me to ignore your offer completely (since it proves that you lack the idea of what is hacked and what isn't, so don't expect me to believe that that is the only hack on your list). On another hand, don't ask me to trade you any hack. (Believe me, a lot of people did ask me to trade hack...:S )
2. RNG and cloning are not considered as hack by me.
3. For now, I will not accept PokeCheck as legit proof
Until further development is made, PokeCheck isn't consider as "legitimacy" checker. It's a "legality" checker. Let alone editting your forest with PokeStock to get your DW pass PokeCheck's checking, I can even Pokesav
the pokemons to make it pass PokeCheck's legality check. So, until any further update to the legitimacy checking system, PokeCheck proof doesn't count as a legit proof for me.
PKMDB and GTS pokemons
For those who didn't know, PKMDB is a website which distribute lots of event pokemons, for free, and usually not legit. As the origin of those pokemons are very unclear, most people will consider these as hacked, me included. Here
is the list of pokemons distributed on PKMDB. If possible, please review this list with your offer at least to make sure that your pokemons didn't come from there.
I consider GTS negotiated pokemons as hacked for similar reason as above. Even though the GTS is said to block hacks, it's not 100%...not even 50%. It's easy to hack to get pass GTS legitimacy check, so as the possibility of the pokemons from GTS being hacked is too high for my taste, I won't accept it as legit. This, however, only apply to official GTS server. Exploited GTS will be considered case-by-case (depending on who runs it).
PPWC and PCG:
PPWC = Project Pokemon Wondercard are pokemons which are obtained from extracted Wondercard as posted in Project Pokemon Site.
PCG = PokeCGear Editted are Dream World pokemons which are obtained through PokeCGear, which is the program that allows you to encounter certain pokemon in the Entree Forest.
These two are considered as legal. The people who got them actually reset for them from the delivery man or in the Entree Forest, so even the best legitimacy checker will not pick these up. The only ways anyone can differentiate these from legitly obtained events are if the person said it him or herself that those are being used to obtained them and through certain "limitation" to the legitly obtained pokemons (for example, you can't possibly have all 7 Befriend with the Pokemon DW Eeveelutions under a single OT/ID as the Eeveelution are limited to one per OT only) Likewise, it's almost near to impossible to check whether your events that you got from trades are for either of these or not as well. Since there are no real difference between these and legitly obtained pokemons and finding out whether your events are from these or from legit events takes way too much effort (since you need to sort out the original OT of the pokemon and actually ask them, and they may or may not tell you either), most people will not consider these as hack, but it also depends. All events that are known to be from PPWC or PCG will be denoted in my thread, however, I will not guarantee either that the ones that are not denoted aren't obtained from either of these unless it's for Japanese DW events. If the events don't fall into PPWC or PCG, it only means that the event may or may not be from those.
My Dream World Events:
[size="1"]*If you've received the Dream World events with OT: テイルズ ID: 21077, please note that what you've received is something I never resetted for, thus I hold no responsibility over them.
Bulbasaur: <None ATM>
Adamant // 18/20/6/28/19/16
Jolly // 14/12/8/23/29/6 (NFT)
Dream World Blacklist
I will not trade any of the Dream World pokemons of any of the following OT/ID as the Dream World pokemons with these OT/ID are found to be hacked:
(Will definitely not trade anything for these)
OT: ホルス？ ID: 47927 (Claimed to have all Dream World starters, plus shiny form of them)
OT: Ayala ID:36803 (Claimed to have all Dream World starters, even the unreleased ones)
OT: cH053 ID: 42660 (Claimed to have all Dream World starters)
OT: Harmony ID: 00036 (Claimed to have all Dream World starters)
OT: James ID: 00021 (Claimed to have all Dream World starters)
OT: Chris ID: 14496 (Claimed to have shiny form of Dream World starters)
OT: ミナ ID: 04332 (Claimed to have all Dream World starters)
(Will only trade for these if the original OT clear it up him/herself which is hacked and which isn't)
OT: フレイ ID: 09810 (Torchic
is confirmed to be hacked)
OT: ヒロシ ID: 47070 (Mudkip
is confirmed to be hacked)
OT: やるお ID: 17627 (Squirtle
is confirmed to be hacked)
OT: アウル ID: 60590 (Claimed to have Mudkip
with multiple nature but same PID)
OT: Saku (Said to have hacked a Treeko)
OT: Mat ID: 30160 (All of Mat's DW events, except Jolteon and Arceus, are Extralink Editted. Self-proclaimed.)
OT: ロック ID:06189 (Wardek's dummy save. He only uses this to try out PokeStock, which is the Extralink Edittor. Also, slightly PokeGen'd for IVs, but undetectable for PokeCheck ATM)
If I traded you hack(s)
, give me proof for the hacks, and I'll refund you DOUBLE of what you traded me (either tradeback+1 more pokemon of your choice per pokemons found hacked, or no tradeback but any 2 pokemons of your choice per pokemons found hacked instead).
However, do take note that I will clone your pokemons, so you've been warned. Don't come back and try blacklisting me because I cloned your pokemon then do the tradeback, since I'm going to assume that you're well aware of this already before you trade.
If you traded me hack(s)
, I don't want the clone of the pokemon I traded to you. I want something else in your list as my refund, or I might just let you keep your stuff and not take anything back at all (depending on my mood).