3rd August 2014, 7:45 AM
3rd and 4th Gen Shiny Discussion & FAQ - READ FIRST POST
Post about any shiny Pokemon you have obtained on your 3rd or 4th gen games here!
This thread is meant to replace the old shiny threads in this forum, which for reference can be found here:
3rd Gen Shiny Discussion/FAQ
Official 4th Gen Shiny Discussion
You must follow the following rues while posting in this thread:
~All Serebii Forums Rules apply
~You may not go offtopic in this thread at all. This is discussion of and questions about shinies only. This means no talking about your favorite ice cream flavor or which Pokemon is the coolest, or anything like that. This also means none of the ever-annoying "congrats" or "good luck" messages. If you feel the need to say that to someone, do it on their profile.
~The GSC forum has its own shiny sticky here, so please use that thread to discuss your Gen II shinies. Also, since this is past generation discussion, do not talk about newer gen shinies here.
~No "semi-legit" (aka still hacked but makes people feel better about themselves) or "hacked" shinies. No one can stop you from cheating to get Newmoon Island on your Pearl, but don't share it with us. Don't post here saying you got a cheated Oak's Letter to get a shiny Shaymin or something.
~No posting unless you've actually obtained a shiny. "Targets" overran the last thread and many of them either were never completed or took weeks to complete so that the poster posted over and over again about the same shiny. Not anymore. None of this "I'm going to start SRing for Cresselia today" or "I've hatched 580 Magbies and no shiny yet" or the even worse "I have a SECRET target and I SRed 5784905689403 times for it" or something.
~[4th GEN] For chains, you may only post once your chain is completed. If you get 10 shinies in a chain, we don't need 10 posts.
Frequently-Asked Questions about Shinies (taken from the old threads, Credit @ Ellie)
Read the main site's shiny page for useful information about shinies.
1. Q: Shiny Pokemon? What are those?
A: Shiny Pokemon first appeared in the Gold and Silver games for the Gameboy Color. Basically, they are alternately colored Pokemon (for example, shiny Charizard is black instead of orange).
2. Q: Wow! Are shiny Pokemon more powerful?
A: Unfortunately, no. The ONLY difference between shinies and regular Pokemon is the color. They’re pretty much just for bragging rights.
3: Q: How can I find a shiny Pokemon?
A: Every single catchable Pokemon that you find (Eggs, Gifts, Wild, etc) has a 1/8192 chance of being shiny.
In Gen III, there is no way to find any quicker, so you'll just need to rely on luck.
In Gen IV, there are a few ways to find certain Pokémon as shiny quicker, but you still need to rely on luck. They are often called Masuda Method and PokeRadar Chaining.
4: Q: But I’ve seen over 10000 Pokemon in my game and haven’t found a shiny yet! That can’t be right!
A: 1/8192 is a probability. That doesn’t mean that after 8192 Pokemon, you will automatically find a shiny.
A good example of this is when you roll dice. You have a 1/6 chance of getting any particular number when you roll, such as the number 2. That doesn’t mean that you will roll a 2 in six rolls, or that your second roll will be a 2, etc.
The same goes for shiny Pokemon. You may find a shiny on your first try, or within a hundred tries, or maybe not until 10000 tries.
To delve in a bit deeper, picture that whenever you encounter a Pokemon, a random number between 1 and 8,192 is generated. Let’s say that the number 500 is the “shiny number.” If 500 happens to be the random number that’s generated, the Pokemon will be shiny. If the number is anything else, it will be a normal Pokemon. Nice odds, aren’t they?
5: Q: If I breed a shiny Pokemon, will the baby from the Egg be shiny as well?
A: Unlike in G/S/C, where you had a higher chance of hatching shiny offspring when the parents were shiny, this is NOT true for any of the later generation games. In the 3rd and 4th Generation, almost every Pokemon has the same odds of being shiny.
In Gen IV, there is the exception to this rule, being the Masuda Method.
6: Q: What is this soft resetting/SRing thing I’ve been hearing about?
A: Soft resetting is when you press Start + Select + A + B to reset your GBA (just like turning the system off and on) or Start + Select + L + R to reset your DS (just like turning the system off and on, skipping the firmware screen). It’s helpful when trying to find a shiny of a Pokemon you can save in front of, such as your starter at the beginning, legendaries, etc. It's faster than turning the game on and off, and it's less stressful on the system/batteries. Save, see if the Pokemon is shiny, if not SR your game and try again. Just like finding any shiny, this depends completely on luck, but if you’re patient you should eventually get your shiny. Keep in mind that this could take hours or days with luck, and months and months without.
7: Q: What does a shiny _____ look like?
A: The Pokedex on the main site shows sprites of every Pokemon:
8: Q: How do I know if I have a shiny Pokemon?
A: Besides the change in color, a shiny Pokemon will sparkle when it comes into battle. There are also a couple changes on its summary page, which you can see on the main site’s shiny page (link above).
9. Q: When will I know if I’ve gotten a shiny starter?
A: When you’re choosing your starter, the game will show you a picture of each Pokemon. This picture will NOT show you whether that Pokemon is shiny or not. You will have to choose it and check its summary, or use it in battle, to find out if it’s shiny or not.
10. Q: Can I save before hatching my Egg, and reset until I have a shiny?
A: No. All of the Egg's values are set once you take it. However, you can save before taking it and have a chance.
11. Q: If my shiny Pokemon evolves, will it stay shiny?
A: Yes. Once shiny, always shiny.
Colosseum and XD-Specific Shiny FAQ/Info
because it has much weirder stuff than the other games
Note: use the spinoff forum for general Colo/XD discussion.
Yes, Pokemon CAN be shiny in Colosseum/XD!
Shiny Pokemon, just like in the Gameboy games are very rare and some are even pretty, the chances to find one is 1 in 8192, that dosent mean after 8191 battles the next pokemon will be shiny, because every battle has a 1 in 8192 chance of being a shiny pokemon.
Your shinies may look pretty in the GBA games but when you put them onto colosseum or XD they will look different:
Shiny Pokemon that are completely different colours then the 'normal' ones are noticable, like Dragonite is dark green instead of yellow, very noticable! The only exceptions are Shadow Lugia and Smeargle, who are explained below.
How to identify a shiny Shadow Pokemon
When a shiny Pokemon is sent out in Colosseum/XD, rather than the stars from the GBA games, two orange orbs fly out. Also, there's the obvious color difference. Note that many Pokemon have a different shiny form in Colo/XD than in the GBA games.
A Shiny Shadow Lugia has the same color as a normal Shadow Lugia, but it has the two orange orbs flying around it, enabling you to tell the difference.
A normal Smeargle in Colosseum/XD has a red tail but a shiny one has a green tail, which is the opposite of the GBA games. What's the reason for this problem? In GSC, a shiny Smeargle had a green tail while a normal one had a reddish-brown tail. For some reason, the developers decided to switch this in the 3rd gen. Colosseum and XD, however, use the same models as the Gen 1 and 2 Stadium games, so the Smeargle colors reflect that of GSC.
Gen IV Specific FAQS:
Essentially, the Masuda Method consists of this:
1. You obtain a Foreign Pokemon [E.g. a German Ditto]
2. You breed your Pokemon with aforementioned foreign Pokemon.
3. The Game checks to see if one pokemon is foreign.
4. Thus, the chances of getting a Shiny Pokemon is roughly fourthed [supposedly 1/2048 instead of 1/8192]
Masuda's Official Blog
This can only be done in the Sinnoh games, (Diamond, Pearl and Platinum) as it requires a Key Item PokéRadar. You obtain it from Prof Oak when you receive the National Dex.
Using Repel will be very useful here.
1. Use the Radar in the grass, patches of grass will react. (Different Music will also play.)
2. Step in to one of these patches.
3. You'll be in a battle with a Wild Pokémon. Faint/Catch it.
4. The Grass should react, again, as you leave the battle. If the music is the standard Route music your chain is now over
5. Enter the farthest away patch that reacted.
6. Another Battle happens. Faint/Catch it.
The chances of a shiny increases every battle in the chain, up to 40th battle. After this 40th battle, you've increased your chances to 1 in 200 for the next Pokémon to be shiny, about 40 times easier, for the length of the chain.
If you have any other questions or think something should be added here, don't hesitate to PM me.
8th August 2014, 1:11 AM
I found a shiny Magikarp by killing 52 of them in the pond in the Resort Area in Platinum.I also found a shiny Houndour while trying to find one that wouldn't Roar me away for my team.In Gen 3,I found a shiny Rattata before I had Pokeballs....Stupid game tutorials...
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