4TH GEN Hack-Check Thread (New Rule Read first post.)

[SpiritChaser]

No, that just means no one has taken the time to check it out. I think they RNGed it, and probably cloned it afterwords, but it does appear legit.

Sweet, thanks!

[Aquarelle]

Hi
I have trade a pokemon for a ditto with perfect ivs.
But the ditto is hacked, are the pokemon that i breed with it hacked? or they are legit?

If the Pokemon you breed with it were obtained using a cheating device, then they are hacked. If they were caught in the game without the use of a cheating device, they are legit, and always will be. Breeding a legit Pokemon with a hacked Pokemon doesn't make the legit Pokemon suddenly become hacked.

[zerky]

If the Pokemon you breed with it were obtained using a cheating device, then they are hacked. If they were caught in the game without the use of a cheating device, they are legit, and always will be. Breeding a legit Pokemon with a hacked Pokemon doesn't make the legit Pokemon suddenly become hacked.

I think dragonmaster means, "would the offspring of a pairing between a hacked and legit pokemon be considered hacked or legit?".

It depends I think...

If the hacked pokémon has a heritable and illegal moveset (charmander with dragon dance and metal claw for example) the offspring will be the same as a hack and will certainly be banned from official tournaments. Also if it has an illegal IV distribution and the offspring inherits it, it will also be considered hacked. If the hacked parent is completely within legal parameters, it's unlikely that a hack check will be able to detect that the child is a hack, but I wouldn't discount it.

Furthermore, even if such a pokémon might pass every hack check GameFreak can throw at it and would be considered legal to every extent, the legitimacy is still rather dubious. Like the issue with cloning it'll probably vary from person to person whether or not they consider a hacked-parent pokémon legit or not.

[Aquarelle]

I think dragonmaster means, "would the offspring of a pairing between a hacked and legit pokemon be considered hacked or legit?".

He said, ''are the pokemon that i breed with it hacked.'' Which really makes it sound as if he was referring to the other parent, not the offspring.

If the hacked pokémon has a heritable and illegal moveset (charmander with dragon dance and metal claw for example) the offspring will be the same as a hack and will certainly be banned from official tournaments. Also if it has an illegal IV distribution and the offspring inherits it, it will also be considered hacked.

What is an "illegal IV distribution"? I have never heard of even a hacked Pokemon with an IV greater than 31 in a stat. O_o

[pkmnjaja]

Ok, I'm sorry if I posted this in the wrong section.

Pokemon Species: Zorua
Nickname:
OT: Gloria
OT Gender: Red
IDno: 11552
Shiny?: No
EV's: Level 1 when received so most likely hatched
IV's: When I first looked at the stats of the newly hatched Zorua, it was 6, 5, 6, 6 ,6.
Nature: Hardy
Characteristic: Likes to run
Ability: Illusion
Moves: Scratch, Leer, Dark Pulse
Level Caught at: Hatched
Current Level: 1
Stats: 6 Attack, 5 Defense, 6 Sp. Attack, 6 Sp. Defense, 6 Speed.
Location Caught: Hatched at Route 3
Egg?: It recently hatched
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Game used to get info: Pokemon White
Any other notes?: It had Pokerus when I got it. So I was wondering if it was hacked.

Thanks.

[Byzantine]

Though this is the wrong section pkm, that Zorua was not hacked, eggs are just as capable of getting pokerus as pokemon are. Someone gave you a nice gift .

@Aqua, an illegal IV combination refers to a combination of IV's that your PID is incapable of generating, though I believe it only happens with shinies. And Zerky, it is impossible for an egg to inherit an illegal IV combination, simply because your game cannot generate it (which is what makes it illegal).

[dragonmaster_01]

The ditto is normal, the only thing that it has is 31 ivs in all stats
And im refering to the pokemon that hatch from the egg

[Byzantine]

Dragon, it is a grey area, but so long as the ditto only has 31 IV stats and doesn't have a glitch/hack moveset then the eggs you get will appear legit, in that all of their in-game data will check-out as legit since it was indeed generated by your game and not by an AR.

(By In-game data I mean everything, including the hidden things which only hacking can reveal about a pokemon, and if all of this data checks out it means that no matter what test they are put through they do not appear as hacked, as their own data was indeed properly generated, which is what a hack-check looks for, flaws in the way the data was generated).

[Rocketeer]

I was still wondering what to do with this guy.

Nickname: Xatu (shiny)
OT: Victor
OT Gender: blue
ID: 10211
EVs (if known/estimated):
IVs (if known/calculated):
Nature: Quiet
Characteristic: Likes to run
Ability: early bird
Moves: u-turn, me first, confusy ray, psychic
Current Level: 40
Level Caught at: 40
Location received: POKEMON LEAGUE
Current Stats: 114/77/73/102/73/83
Pokeball caught in: pokeball

[Skydra]

I was still wondering what to do with this guy.

Nickname: Xatu (shiny)
OT: Victor
OT Gender: blue
ID: 10211
EVs (if known/estimated):
IVs (if known/calculated):
Nature: Quiet
Characteristic: Likes to run
Ability: early bird
Moves: u-turn, me first, confusy ray, psychic
Current Level: 40
Level Caught at: 40
Location received: POKEMON LEAGUE
Current Stats: 114/77/73/102/73/83
Pokeball caught in: pokeball

Hacked. Most likely an AR user turned a shiny cheat on, went to the Pokemon League, then used a cheat to capture Will's Xatu.

[zerky]

He said, ''are the pokemon that i breed with it hacked.'' Which really makes it sound as if he was referring to the other parent, not the offspring.




What is an "illegal IV distribution"? I have never heard of even a hacked Pokemon with an IV greater than 31 in a stat. O_o

Byzantine already answered what illegal IV distribution is, but in addition to that, I have personally received a hacked deoxys from a trade with over 31 IVs in every stat except HP (where it had 31). It was either that or there was some other hack on it that set its EVs in stone or messed up its stats somehow because I was going to get it looked at here until I berried it, checked the IVs and then saw how blatantly hacked it was. After berrying everything down to zero, none of its stats other than HP would even compute in the IV calculator and they were all above the legal max. Safe to say you couldn't actually *breed* anything with it, being a deoxys and all, but still. lol

I have no idea what would happen if it was a breedable pokémon and what sort of genetically defective kids would result from an unholy pairing with it.

[legendarypokemonmaster]

Uxie
OT: Jhue
OT Gender: Blue
ID: 31044
Shiny: Yes
Evs: 252HP 252Def 4SpAtk
Ivs: All 31
Nature:Bold
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Levitate
Moves: Yawn, U-turn, Stealth Rock, Protect
Level caught at: apparently met at level 50
Current Level: 100
Stats: HP: 354 Atk: 167 Def: 394 SpAtk: 187 SpDef: 296 Speed: 226
Location Caught: Acuity Cavern
Egg?: No
Caught in a Pokeball
Platinum
Other: No ribbons, Heart Marker, I got it off the GTS for a Slowking

[Aquarelle]

Uxie
OT: Jhue
OT Gender: Blue
ID: 31044
Shiny: Yes
Evs: 252HP 252Def 4SpAtk
Ivs: All 31
Nature:Bold
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Levitate
Moves: Yawn, U-turn, Stealth Rock, Protect
Level caught at: apparently met at level 50
Current Level: 100
Stats: HP: 354 Atk: 167 Def: 394 SpAtk: 187 SpDef: 296 Speed: 226
Location Caught: Acuity Cavern
Egg?: No
Caught in a Pokeball
Platinum
Other: No ribbons, Heart Marker, I got it off the GTS for a Slowking

Looks okay. They probably just RNG'd for it.

[Pokemom]

re: old thread (too sorry it took so long for me to get back on here...health has been in the gutter :_( )

"Quote:
Originally Posted by Pokemom View Post
Update:



Repost of the ones left unevaluated. Determination please?


§Suicune§:

-Celebi seems to be legit.
-Mew seems to be legit.
-I personally believe that the Deoxys is hacked, but there really is no way to tell. They could have obtained a ticket to get the Deoxys, but there is really no way to tell.
-I think the same for Lugia is I do with Deoxys.
-Magmortar seems legit.
-Ponyta can't be found in route 214 for Platinum. It can be found in D/P. If it's imported, then it's a hack. If you got it from a trade, then it appears to be legit.
-The Shuckle seems to be hacked. "


would like Ponyta/Rapidash and Shuckle redetermined. Shuckle as there was some dissension regarding "faraway place" and Rapidash for clarification: he was received via GTS so I can't speak for his original cart (but I really hope he's legit O_O )

Rapidash
RAPIDASH
OT: (Jap??)
ID: 14858
Lvl 43, I've been using him quite a bit, no cond, no sheen
Serious Nature
Mar 6, 2009
Route 214
Apparently met at Lv 23 (lv at arrival from GTS)
Good endurance
Happily eats anything
hp 123/a 101/d 84/SA 81/SD 85/spd 115
Flash fire/ember/fire spin/fire blast/fury attack
ribbons: sinnoh/gorgeous/royal (came with none)
color: shiney
ball: premier
notes: male. evolved from ponyta after GTS "import", "nickname" was in OT language as Ponyta and changed after evo. GTS. Could be hack, but I really hope not.

Shuckle
SHUCKLE
Fabil1
50871
Lvl 61, untouched (?)
Calm nature
Feb 18, 2009
Faraway Place
Apparently met at Lv 61
Good Perseverance
Likes bitter food
hp 110/a 27/d 300/SA 31/SD 330/spd 25
sturdy/toxic/rest/sandstorm/protect
Ribbons: none
color: normal
ball: (net?)
notes: male. GTS. All I wanted was a shuckle, I got "faraway place"...Pt? or hack? or something else?


Thrilled the Celebii and Magmortar checked out figured the Mew likely would, as well as that Deoxys and Lugia not. Thanks for everyone's time in these guys

[Aquarelle]

Rapidash
RAPIDASH
OT: (Jap??)
ID: 14858
Lvl 43, I've been using him quite a bit, no cond, no sheen
Serious Nature
Mar 6, 2009
Route 214
Apparently met at Lv 23 (lv at arrival from GTS)
Good endurance
Happily eats anything
hp 123/a 101/d 84/SA 81/SD 85/spd 115
Flash fire/ember/fire spin/fire blast/fury attack
ribbons: sinnoh/gorgeous/royal (came with none)
color: shiney
ball: premier
notes: male. evolved from ponyta after GTS "import", "nickname" was in OT language as Ponyta and changed after evo. GTS. Could be hack, but I really hope not.

If it was originally caught on Diamond and Pearl, then it should be fine.
However, since you really don't seem to know where it came from, I don't think you will ever be able to know for sure if it is legit or not. It doesn't appear to have anything illegal about it, so I wouldn't worry about it.

Shuckle
SHUCKLE
Fabil1
50871
Lvl 61, untouched (?)
Calm nature
Feb 18, 2009
Faraway Place
Apparently met at Lv 61
Good Perseverance
Likes bitter food
hp 110/a 27/d 300/SA 31/SD 330/spd 25
sturdy/toxic/rest/sandstorm/protect
Ribbons: none
color: normal
ball: (net?)
notes: male. GTS. All I wanted was a shuckle, I got "faraway place"...Pt? or hack? or something else?

My guess for this one would be that it's a hack. Since it says "apparently met at lv. 61," I think that means it was caught at that level. You can't catch Shuckles at that level legally. As for the "faraway place," that would mean it was caught in HGSS or a Platinum exclusive area (assuming you're playing DP). Still, you can't find level 61 wild Shuckle in HGSS, and the only time you can get them in Platinum exclusive areas is by hatching an egg there (and from the info you've provided, it doesn't look like it came from an egg).
So my guess is that it's a hack. :/

[Skitty1CatzRule]

Quick question about my two GBA event pokemon, they seem pretty legit. Comparing them to normal ones, they're pretty much the same.

Can a ageto celebi be shiny? It's got everything a normal one has, except it's shiny.

What about a shiny mystery mew? It's like celebi. Normal mystery mews are about the same.

[Ciccone]

Quick question about my two GBA event pokemon,

Can a ageto celebi be shiny? It's got everything a normal one has, except it's shiny.

What about a mystery mew? It's like celebi. Normal mystery mews are about the same.

Ageto Celebi and MYSTRY Mew cannot be Shiny. A site specializing in event Pokemon ran some tests and they've determined that neither Pokemon can be Shiny.

[Pokemom]

My guess for this one would be that it's a hack. Since it says "apparently met at lv. 61," I think that means it was caught at that level. You can't catch Shuckles at that level legally. As for the "faraway place," that would mean it was caught in HGSS or a Platinum exclusive area (assuming you're playing DP). Still, you can't find level 61 wild Shuckle in HGSS, and the only time you can get them in Platinum exclusive areas is by hatching an egg there (and from the info you've provided, it doesn't look like it came from an egg).
So my guess is that it's a hack. :/

Can we really put that much stock in the "met at" tag since it came from GTS and arrived at that level? He's on a DPPt cart, if that helps. Could he have been Pal Parked from E/FR/LG then sent through GTS?

Shuckle: http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/213.shtml

[Aquarelle]

Can we really put that much stock in the "met at" tag since it came from GTS and arrived at that level? He's on a DPPt cart, if that helps. Could he have been Pal Parked from E/FR/LG then sent through GTS?

Shuckle: http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/213.shtml

If it came from a GBA game, its memo would say "arrived at level 61." The "apparently met at level 61" thing means that it was caught at level 61 in a DS Pokemon game.

[Plewps]

I have foreign ditto I got over GTS I just want a quick check


Nickname: METAMORPH
OT: Kira
OT Gender: Blue =Male
IDno: 29689
Shiny?: No
EV's: Not sure
IV's: Not sure
Nature: Serious
Characteristic: Impetuous and silly
Ability: Limber
Moves: Transform
Level Caught at: 22
Current Level: 34
Stats: HP-81, Atk-43, Def-42, Sp.Atk-42, Sp.Def 38 ,Speed 46
Location Caught: Trophy Garden
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra Ball
Game used to get info: Heartgold
Any other notes?: This one worries me because it says the max lvl of ditto in trophy garden is 18

If someone could please check this one for me that would be great :3