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    Sorry, I'm the wrong thread again, really sorry. ^^;
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    Quote Originally Posted by shadefalcon View Post
    I have received numerous Event Pokemon over trades in the years I've been playing Pokemon, and I'm just getting back into the Game now. I'm aware of all the physical and obvious signs a Pokemon is hacked, but I have trouble with the Stat calculator. So I'll post up one of the Pokemon events I have currently, and I need to know how to figure out myself for future reference if the STATS in particular are hacked, maxed out, cheated etc. I've entered some Pokemon of mine into the calculator and received messages like this:

    Deoxys .ATK Lv.75 does not compute!
    Speed (254) should be 230 to 253.
    The Effort Points or Nature may be inaccurate. ---

    Does this kind of a message mean it was hacked or is it just some sort of error? I need to know what kind of message the calculator would display to clue me in on the hacked nature of a pokemon or not. As the stats seem to be the only concern of mine since all the other info on these events is clearly legit, and all of them have been UT. (Un-Touched)
    i'll answer you in 2 parts...if you're getting that message on the IV calculator, the data's not accurate. you need to either know what EVs were put into the pokemon OR strip all the EVs off with the 6 different berries to take them all down to zero. anything else is going to throw off your IV calculation...

    Quote Originally Posted by shadefalcon View Post
    So I'll post up one random one for now. Thank you and I appreciate the help.

    Pokemon Species: SHAYMIN
    Nickname: None
    OT: Movie11
    OT Gender: None
    IDno: 04019
    Shiny?: No
    EV's: (if known)
    IV's: (if known)
    Nature: Relaxed
    Characteristic: Good perserverance
    Ability: Natural Cure
    Moves: Seed Flare, Aromatherapy, Substitute, Energy Ball
    Level Caught at: Lv. 50
    Current Level: Lv. 50
    Stats: HP - 161, Attack - 116, Defense - 128, Sp. Atk - 106, Sp. Def - 113, Speed - 100
    Location Caught: Apparently had a fateful encounter at Lv. 50
    Egg?: No
    Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
    Any other notes?: It has a "Classic Ribbon".
    this looks legal, but without knowing exactly how & where it was obtained & who you got it from, no one can say 100% legit...
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    Pokemon Species: MewTwo
    Nickname:
    OT: Ashley
    OT Gender: Female
    IDno: 60200
    Shiny?: Yes
    EV's:
    IV's:
    Nature: Brave
    Characteristic: Somewhat Stubborn
    Ability: Pressure
    Moves: Swift, Recover, Safeguard, Psychic
    Level Caught at: Lv. 70
    Current Level: Lv. 100
    Stats: HP:357, Att:261, Def:208, Sp.A:337, Sp.D:209, Spe:269
    Location Caught: Kanto
    Egg?: No
    Pokeball Caught In: Friend Ball
    Any other notes?: Has a Shock Ribbon and a Snooze Ribbon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macklin
    Pokemon Species: MewTwo
    It looks legit to me stats are within acceptable parameters, it seems like its been through alot of pokemon games back and forth. Its shiny so i can't be 100% sure but its nature isn't great for mewtwo and stats aren't overly powerful so its either a botched clone or a legit pokemon. My gut says legit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macklin View Post
    Pokemon Species: MewTwo
    Nickname:
    OT: Ashley
    OT Gender: Female
    IDno: 60200
    Shiny?: Yes
    EV's:
    IV's:
    Nature: Brave
    Characteristic: Somewhat Stubborn
    Ability: Pressure
    Moves: Swift, Recover, Safeguard, Psychic
    Level Caught at: Lv. 70
    Current Level: Lv. 100
    Stats: HP:357, Att:261, Def:208, Sp.A:337, Sp.D:209, Spe:269
    Location Caught: Kanto
    Egg?: No
    Pokeball Caught In: Friend Ball
    Any other notes?: Has a Shock Ribbon and a Snooze Ribbon
    are you sure that it's caught in a friend ball? what color is it, what markings does it have? if so, that's a bad hack. caught in kanto means it came from FR/LG, but friend balls weren't usuable again until HG/SS. that ID number is on the unmentionable site, but with a different OT name. i'm gonna have to call a hack on this one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by manniezmoll View Post
    are you sure that it's caught in a friend ball? what color is it, what markings does it have? if so, that's a bad hack. caught in kanto means it came from FR/LG, but friend balls weren't usuable again until HG/SS. that ID number is on the unmentionable site, but with a different OT name. i'm gonna have to call a hack on this one...
    I'm fairly sure you can catch Mewtwo in Cerulean Cave in HGSS. That would explain the Kanto+Friend Ball combination, would it not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by the ash man83 View Post
    I'm fairly sure you can catch Mewtwo in Cerulean Cave in HGSS. That would explain the Kanto+Friend Ball combination, would it not?
    The summaries of all pokemon from HGSS says that they come from Johto, even if they were chaught in Kanto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the ash man83 View Post
    I'm fairly sure you can catch Mewtwo in Cerulean Cave in HGSS. That would explain the Kanto+Friend Ball combination, would it not?
    While looking through my various poke-shifts, this is what I've found in the various summaries about the origination of the Pokemon:

    3rd gen, Colosseum says: Distant Land, Apparently arrived at level ___ after a long travel through time.
    3rd gen, XD says: Distant Land, Apparently arrived at level ___ after a long travel through time, Fateful Encounter.
    3rd gen R/S/E says: Hoenn, Apparently arrived at level ___ after a long travel through time.
    3rd gen FR/LG says: Kanto, Apparently arrived at level ___ after a long travel through time.
    4th gen D/P/Pt says: Sinnoh, Apparently arrived at level___.
    4th gen HG/SS says: Johto, Apparently arrived at level ___ .
    5th gen from B2/W2 becomes “Faraway Place” if the catch location does not exist in B/W.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the ash man83
    I'm fairly sure you can catch Mewtwo in Cerulean Cave in HGSS. That would explain the Kanto+Friend Ball combination, would it not?
    This is what i thought ^

    But looking at it again something is suspisious with that mewtwo, its that it has those ribbons. It just seems like its been through too many games to be real. sorry
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    Pokemon from HGSS will say Johto, even if you catch it in the Kanto. So Kanto + Friend Ball is a hack.

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    I got this for a rayquaza on negotiations
    Pokemon Species: Giratina
    Nickname:None
    OT:Corey
    OT Gender: Male
    IDno: 27094
    Shiny?: Yes
    EV's: unknown
    IV's: "Outstanding overall, best potential in hp, att is also good, so def, and spa, and spdef, Speed is also good, can't be better in that regard" according to the subway guy
    Nature: Adamant
    Characteristic: Mischievous
    Ability: Levitate or Pressure
    Moves: Shadow Claw, Dragon Claw, Earthquake, Shadow force
    Level Caught at:47
    Current Level:100
    Stats:504 hp, att 328, def 276, spa 212, spdef 276, spe 216
    Location Caught: Sinnoh, 1/28/2013
    Egg?:no
    Pokeball Caught In:Masterball
    Any other notes?:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silversword View Post
    Pokemon Species: Giratina
    *snip*
    Poorly hacked.
    Meh
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    Quote Originally Posted by PkmnBreeder Pride View Post
    Bad hack I'm afraid I bolded all the things that clinches why this is a hack. The fact that its shiny is always suspisious. Iv's are all perfect looks like (the odds of getting a perfect Giratina outside of events is steep or nigh on impossible.) Adamant nature (best possible nature) along with iv's suggest hack. The masterball is always a bad sign if a pokemon is caught in a master ball. You only get one a game and most people won't use them because people think the pokemon inside them are hacks (because it is the standard in hacked pokemon not that they can't be caught in other balls just its more likely in a masterball.) Lvl 100 clinches it for me (most hacks will be lvl 100.) One more thing if you had a shiny Giratina would you trade it for a Rayquaza? Personally I would want a Melloetta, mew, celebi or another event for it and that is if i would even trade it at all, always ask yourself in one of these trades, would you do that? I am so sorry for you I'm afraid all we can hope for is that, that trainers ds smashes and he has to buy a new one. I hate ppl like that trainer this is what ruins pokemon (casually and competitivly) ppl like him. (sorry for rant but i get so angry )
    all of the things you bolded mean nothing, it could have just been RNGed... it's all certainly suspicious, but there's no way to tell 100% either way if this is legal or not. do you know how difficult is it to find a rayquaza in 5th gen if you don't have access to a 3rd gen game or a DS or DS lite to pal park it to 4th gen & another DS to shift it to 5th gen... or you're like me & didn't even like HG/SS so you never finished it to get rayquaza to shift it to 5th gen? you can't evaluate legality by what someone traded to get it, what has value to me may mean nothing to another player...
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    The Giratina is not legal. 4th gen wild Pokémon have the IVs tied to PID, which includes nature. Only uh... 4? natures can have all 31s for IVs - Adamant isn't one of them.
    I hate how people covet events and treat them as if they have value, so I make all my events free to everyone. Don't be a jerk and treat them as if they have value by adding them to your thread. Random female DW Pokémon - please use these for breeding purposes only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hozu View Post
    The Giratina is not legal. 4th gen wild Pokémon have the IVs tied to PID, which includes nature. Only uh... 4? natures can have all 31s for IVs - Adamant isn't one of them.
    gotcha...that explanation is one i can accept... i will freely admit to not knowing a lot about RNGing & what's possible & impossible to get in the different generations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hozu View Post
    The Giratina is not legal. 4th gen wild Pokémon have the IVs tied to PID, which includes nature. Only uh... 4? natures can have all 31s for IVs - Adamant isn't one of them.
    Yeah, 4. Calm, Modest, Timid and Hardy? One of those useless natures, anyway.

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    Alright then' thanks for the help, I just wanted to know if I could use it in a Wi-Fi tournament or something, I don't care if it's legit, just if it was legal. Your expertise in RNG is amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silversword View Post
    Alright then' thanks for the help, I just wanted to know if I could use it in a Wi-Fi tournament or something, I don't care if it's legit, just if it was legal. Your expertise in RNG is amazing.
    Well the Wi-Fi hack checker is trash so you could probably get away with it, assuming that it can be put onto the GTS.
    I hate how people covet events and treat them as if they have value, so I make all my events free to everyone. Don't be a jerk and treat them as if they have value by adding them to your thread. Random female DW Pokémon - please use these for breeding purposes only.

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    It can, I tried it. Also, It was from negotiations so I think it can be traded on it as well.

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    Er... sorry to ask after posting such an annoying pokemon but I put away a shiny venusaur for this:
    Pokemon Species: Celebi
    Nickname: CELEBI
    OT:10 ANNIV
    OT Gender: Red- female
    IDno:00010
    Shiny?: No
    EV's: Unknown(Presumably none)
    IV's: "Relatively superior potential, Fantastic HP" according to subway guy
    Nature: Sassy
    Characteristic: Likes to relax
    Ability: Natural Cure
    Moves: Ancientpower, Future sight, Baton pass, Perish song
    Level Caught at: Arrived at Lv. 70
    Current Level: 70
    Stats: hp 240, att 163, def 161, spa 154, spdef 180, spe 135
    Location Caught: Hoenn, 5/3/2007
    Egg?: No
    Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
    Any other notes?: Other than trading away a shiny female venusaur for it, I checked the trader and pokemon on poke**** and poke***( Which I have been told are unmentionable). A bit suspicious about the met date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silversword View Post
    Er... sorry to ask after posting such an annoying pokemon but I put away a shiny venusaur for this:
    Pokemon Species: Celebi
    Nickname: CELEBI
    OT:10 ANNIV
    OT Gender: Red- female
    IDno:00010
    Shiny?: No
    EV's: Unknown(Presumably none)
    IV's: "Relatively superior potential, Fantastic HP" according to subway guy
    Nature: Sassy
    Characteristic: Likes to relax
    Ability: Natural Cure
    Moves: Ancientpower, Future sight, Baton pass, Perish song
    Level Caught at: Arrived at Lv. 70
    Current Level: 70
    Stats: hp 240, att 163, def 161, spa 154, spdef 180, spe 135
    Location Caught: Hoenn, 5/3/2007
    Egg?: No
    Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
    Any other notes?: Other than trading away a shiny female venusaur for it, I checked the trader and pokemon on poke**** and poke***( Which I have been told are unmentionable). A bit suspicious about the met date.
    It's a hack. The 10th anniversary Celebi could only have the OT 10 ANIV.
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    Oops I mispelled it. It is 10 ANIV. Sorry about that, I'm typing this on my 3ds.

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    Well, it seems legal then. I checked the stats with the Serebii IV-calculator, and they are fine. The met date doesn't matter as you can change the date on the DS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hozu View Post
    The Giratina is not legal. 4th gen wild Pokémon have the IVs tied to PID, which includes nature. Only uh... 4? natures can have all 31s for IVs - Adamant isn't one of them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Agonist View Post
    Yeah, 4. Calm, Modest, Timid and Hardy? One of those useless natures, anyway.
    6 actually, two are CC spreads so they are not usable for Method 1 pokemon and genderless pokemon. They are also totally useless for hex-flawless (Sassy and Quite) so no one will probably ever bother to RNG for them, but if someone is crazy enough, the spreads are possible. There is also a M4 (?) hex-flawless Naive spread in gen 3, so that is something to look out for as well, although I doubt very many people have RNGed for that.
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    Pokemon Species: Groudon
    Nickname: Groudon
    OT: ASH
    OT Gender: Male
    IDno: 02586
    Shiny?: Yes
    Nature: Bold
    Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
    Ability: Drought
    Moves: Strength, Dig, Fire Blast, Eruption
    Level Caught at: 53
    Current Level: 54
    Stats: hp 197, att 162, def 180, spa 113, spdef 108, spe 109
    Location Caught: Sinnoh, 3/18/2000
    Egg?: No
    Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball

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