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    Quote Originally Posted by Curvee View Post
    Hello everyone~ !! I just received this Sylveon in a trade but after a quick look at the serebii event database I noticed some of its information did not match with the XY event...o ^ o...Soooo...~ Here I am~ !! I would like to have your oppinions on this Sylveon. Thank you very much in advance for your help~ !! Also I apologize If this is the wrong thread, I couldn't find an hack-check thread for the sixth gen...~ XD;;

    Pokemon Species: Sylveon
    Nickname: Japanese
    OT: XY
    OT Gender: Unknown.
    IDno: 01044
    Shiny?: No
    EV's: Unknown
    IV's: Unknown
    Nature: Bashful
    Characteristic: Somewhat stubborn
    Ability: Cute Charm
    Moves: Disarming Voice, Baby-Doll Eyes, Quick Attack, Draining Kiss.
    Level Caught at: Met at level 10.
    Current Level: 10
    Stats: HP: 39, Attack: 18, Defense: 19, Special Attack: 28, Special Defense: 32, Speed: 18
    Location Caught: A Pokemon Event
    Egg?: No
    Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
    Any other notes?: It has an Event ribbon. Its also a female Sylveon.
    Serebii doesn't have the XY event Sylveon listed for some reason. The XY Sylveon was given away in Taiwan and Hong Kong, and this Sylveon appears to match the parameters for it. It would be really helpful for hack-checking if you could list the IVs - go to the IV judge in Kiloude City and see what he says about it. I ran an IV calc on it and it appears to have really low IVs, which is good news in terms of legitimacy and bad news in terms of competitive usefulness. Also, does the Sylveon say that it was met at "a Pokemon event" or does it say "fateful encounter at level 10"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by varanus_komodoensis View Post
    Serebii doesn't have the XY event Sylveon listed for some reason. The XY Sylveon was given away in Taiwan and Hong Kong, and this Sylveon appears to match the parameters for it. It would be really helpful for hack-checking if you could list the IVs - go to the IV judge in Kiloude City and see what he says about it. I ran an IV calc on it and it appears to have really low IVs, which is good news in terms of legitimacy and bad news in terms of competitive usefulness. Also, does the Sylveon say that it was met at "a Pokemon event" or does it say "fateful encounter at level 10"?
    Oh I see~ !! I wasn't aware that there was other XY Sylveon's thank you for letting me know. As for her potential the judge said she was decent overall with her Sp.def being her best stat, he also added that she definately got some good stats.

    It says she was met at a Pokemon event~ The note section stating she apparently had a fateful encounter.
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    Hello, I got Genesect from trade. I want to know it is legit or not.
    First event on this link: http://www.serebii.net/events/dex/649.shtml

    Pokemon Species: Genesect(JPN)
    Nickname: Genesect (not ゲノセクト)
    OT: えいがかん
    ID No: 07133
    Shiny: Yes
    Nature: Hasty
    Ability: Download
    Moves: Shift Gear, Blaze Kick, Extreme Speed, U-turn
    Level 100
    It has 6IVs, random EVs

    Stats, OT, ID NO look fine, but "Is Shiny JPN Genesect with english name possible?"

    Also I have 3IV Shiny Genesect and it has japanese name "ゲノセクト", but 6IV one has English name and I am really confused. Any help would be really appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matsuyamakun View Post
    Hello, I got Genesect from trade. I want to know it is legit or not.
    First event on this link: http://www.serebii.net/events/dex/649.shtml

    Pokemon Species: Genesect(JPN)
    Nickname: Genesect (not ゲノセクト)
    OT: えいがかん
    ID No: 07133
    Shiny: Yes
    Nature: Hasty
    Ability: Download
    Moves: Shift Gear, Blaze Kick, Extreme Speed, U-turn
    Level 100
    It has 6IVs, random EVs

    Stats, OT, ID NO look fine, but "Is Shiny JPN Genesect with english name possible?"

    Also I have 3IV Shiny Genesect and it has japanese name "ゲノセクト", but 6IV one has English name and I am really confused. Any help would be really appreciated.
    This event Genesect cannot have it's english name, it's hacked. Re-naming it "Genesect" with ID abuse isn't possible because of the character limit in 5th gen and before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuoteMissy View Post
    This event Genesect cannot have it's english name, it's hacked. Re-naming it "Genesect" with ID abuse isn't possible because of the character limit in 5th gen and before.
    I see, thanks for the info.

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    Speaking of, that reminded me... I just finally remembered that one other event Pokémon I needed to get hack-checked.

    Pokémon Species: Deoxys (Speed Forme)
    Nickname: 테오키스 (Deoxys in Korean)
    OT: 한국닌텐도
    OT Gender: Cannot be determined.
    IDno: 08308
    Shiny?: No.
    EV's: 252 HP / 4 SpDef / 252 Speed
    IV's: 31/31/31/31/31/31 (Flawless, according to IV judge.)
    Nature: Timid
    Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas.
    Ability: Pressure
    Moves: Light Screen / Reflect / Stealth Rock / Taunt
    Level Caught at: Doesn't say.
    Current Level: 100
    Stats: 304 / 203 / 216 / 226 / 217 / 504
    Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Sinnoh region.
    Egg?: No.
    Pokéball Caught In: Cherish Ball
    Any other notes?: It is holding a Classic Ribbon.

    This is the Nintendo of Korea Deoxys; it isn't listed in the Serebii event dex, but it is listed on Bulbapedia. It was cloned and traded to me, but since this is an event from Gen IV, I'd like a clarification on if it was possible to RNG abuse this kind of IV spread. o.o
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverLanayru View Post
    This is the Nintendo of Korea Deoxys; it isn't listed in the Serebii event dex, but it is listed on Bulbapedia. It was cloned and traded to me, but since this is an event from Gen IV, I'd like a clarification on if it was possible to RNG abuse this kind of IV spread. o.o
    Yes, timid can be hex-flawless in 4th gen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuoteMissy View Post
    Yes, timid can be hex-flawless in 4th gen.
    Ah, noted. Sounds legal enough to me, in this case.
    (So much more to learn in the RNG abusing category. lol)
    Thanks for clarifying, Quote. ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curvee View Post
    Oh I see~ !! I wasn't aware that there was other XY Sylveon's thank you for letting me know. As for her potential the judge said she was decent overall with her Sp.def being her best stat, he also added that she definately got some good stats.

    It says she was met at a Pokemon event~ The note section stating she apparently had a fateful encounter.
    Ah, the XY Sylveon does have "Pokemon Event". Everything about this Sylveon looks legal except that the name is in Japanese, or some other foreign language. Everything I can find about this event states that although it was given out in Taiwan and Hong Kong, that all of the text is in English. I'm not sure if this Sylveon is hacked or not. I wouldn't release it until you got a second opinion, or found someone else who has this event.

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    I'm pretty sure PowerSaves-injected Pokemon can't be traded. If it was given to you, it's probably legit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevenant View Post
    I'm pretty sure PowerSaves-injected Pokemon can't be traded. If it was given to you, it's probably legit.
    Anything can be traded over PSS, including things like PowerSave-edited shiny Xerneas and Yvetal. Since XY Sylveon has an Event Ribbon on it, I don't think it can be traded over GTS, which means he must have gotten it from PSS or from a trade with someone he knows, meaning it could very well be hacked.

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    so I've got a good question. How likely is it to get a Keldeo that's timid with 6ivs? I can't fill out the form in its entirety since I don't have my game on me, but the basics are...

    Lvl 50. in a Cherish Ball, has the event ribbon, 6ivs and Timid. Surf, Calm mind, Substitute, and Sacred Sword. I'm sure its possible to RNG it, but I wanted to make sure. I'd give the name of the original trainer but I can't since I don't have my game right now, though it does say it was traded from Unova and from the memory girl it says it had a memory but can't remember it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragontamer44722 View Post
    so I've got a good question. How likely is it to get a Keldeo that's timid with 6ivs? I can't fill out the form in its entirety since I don't have my game on me, but the basics are...

    Lvl 50. in a Cherish Ball, has the event ribbon, 6ivs and Timid. Surf, Calm mind, Substitute, and Sacred Sword. I'm sure its possible to RNG it, but I wanted to make sure. I'd give the name of the original trainer but I can't since I don't have my game right now, though it does say it was traded from Unova and from the memory girl it says it had a memory but can't remember it.
    This event should be from WIN2013 event.
    OT: WIN2013
    ID NO: 01163
    Has wishing ribbon

    I RNG'ed myself 5IV Flawless Timid Keldeo when the event came out.
    I go to memory girl with my Keldeo.She says Keldeo has a good memory, but it doesn't seem to able to remember and Keldeo became friend when it arrived Link Trade at somewhere.(Pokebank I guess)
    6IV Keldeo is possible, but can't say %100 legit.

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    yeah I had thought so as well. Were it a 5iv one I wouldn't question it, but the fact it had 6 made me a little apprehensive. Thanks for the info

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    Got this from a trade and noticed it's in a heavy ball. Considering you can't breed Metagross in Apricorn Balls since it's genderless, I'm 99.9999% sure this is hacked or at the very least had its ball changed with powersave.

    Pokemon Species: Metagross
    OT: Jun
    IDno: 35443
    Shiny?: Yes
    EV's: 252 in HP, 252 in Atk, 4 in Sp Def I think
    IV's: 6 IVs
    Nature: Adamant
    Characteristic: Somewhat vain
    Ability: Clear Body
    Moves: Bullet Punch, Hammer Arm, Earthquake, Meteor Mash
    Current Level: 51
    Location Caught: Kalos; Hatched from a daycare egg in Lumiose City
    Pokeball Caught In: Heavy ball
    Any other notes?: I want to say you can't even catch a Beldum/Metang/Metagross in a Heavy Ball anyway in HGSS, so this thing is double busted on that part ahahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShyOctopus View Post
    Got this from a trade and noticed it's in a heavy ball. Considering you can't breed Metagross in Apricorn Balls since it's genderless, I'm 99.9999% sure this is hacked or at the very least had its ball changed with powersave.

    Pokemon Species: Metagross
    OT: Jun
    IDno: 35443
    Shiny?: Yes
    EV's: 252 in HP, 252 in Atk, 4 in Sp Def I think
    IV's: 6 IVs
    Nature: Adamant
    Characteristic: Somewhat vain
    Ability: Clear Body
    Moves: Bullet Punch, Hammer Arm, Earthquake, Meteor Mash
    Current Level: 51
    Location Caught: Kalos; Hatched from a daycare egg in Lumiose City
    Pokeball Caught In: Heavy ball
    Any other notes?: I want to say you can't even catch a Beldum/Metang/Metagross in a Heavy Ball anyway in HGSS, so this thing is double busted on that part ahahaha
    While everything else checks out correctly... the Heavy Ball was likely powersaved, so I'd say this is illegal.

    (Relating to the illegal ball issue, I know there has been a recent debate concerning Ray Rizzo's Aegislash in a Dream Ball used in the nationals, but not sure what the officials declared yet. .-. Pokéballs are apparently srs business.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShyOctopus View Post
    Got this from a trade and noticed it's in a heavy ball. Considering you can't breed Metagross in Apricorn Balls since it's genderless, I'm 99.9999% sure this is hacked or at the very least had its ball changed with powersave.

    Pokemon Species: Metagross
    OT: Jun
    IDno: 35443
    Shiny?: Yes
    EV's: 252 in HP, 252 in Atk, 4 in Sp Def I think
    IV's: 6 IVs
    Nature: Adamant
    Characteristic: Somewhat vain
    Ability: Clear Body
    Moves: Bullet Punch, Hammer Arm, Earthquake, Meteor Mash
    Current Level: 51
    Location Caught: Kalos; Hatched from a daycare egg in Lumiose City
    Pokeball Caught In: Heavy ball
    Any other notes?: I want to say you can't even catch a Beldum/Metang/Metagross in a Heavy Ball anyway in HGSS, so this thing is double busted on that part ahahaha
    The Beldum line is only available in the Safari Zone in HGSS, so this Metagross is hacked

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverLanayru View Post
    While everything else checks out correctly... the Heavy Ball was likely powersaved, so I'd say this is illegal.

    (Relating to the illegal ball issue, I know there has been a recent debate concerning Ray Rizzo's Aegislash in a Dream Ball used in the nationals, but not sure what the officials declared yet. .-. Pokéballs are apparently srs business.)
    I haven't heard about this debate, but no Gen VI Pokemon can be in a Dream Ball, ever. That Aegislash is hacked and he should be reprimanded for it, because part of the rules of those competitions is that you can't use hacked Pokemon. As a (three time?) World Champion, he sets the standard and needs to be a good example for everyone else. If he gets away with doing even a harmless hack like a ball, then other players who look up to him will think it's okay for them to hack as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by varanus_komodoensis View Post
    I haven't heard about this debate, but no Gen VI Pokemon can be in a Dream Ball, ever. That Aegislash is hacked and he should be reprimanded for it, because part of the rules of those competitions is that you can't use hacked Pokemon. As a (three time?) World Champion, he sets the standard and needs to be a good example for everyone else. If he gets away with doing even a harmless hack like a ball, then other players who look up to him will think it's okay for them to hack as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by varanus_komodoensis View Post
    The Beldum line is only available in the Safari Zone in HGSS, so this Metagross is hacked
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverLanayru View Post
    While everything else checks out correctly... the Heavy Ball was likely powersaved, so I'd say this is illegal.
    That's what I figured ahahahaha. I might keep it as an oddity, maybe I'll transfer it to ORAS so I can see shiny Megagross.
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    A 6IV Keldeo is perfectly fine. Gen 4 was the last gen where there were any IV restrictions on what could be caught/obtained via wondercards.

    As a (three time?) World Champion, he sets the standard and needs to be a good example for everyone else. If he gets away with doing even a harmless hack like a ball, then other players who look up to him will think it's okay for them to hack as well.
    People have hacked in official tournaments for years. At least the Dream Ball was (supposedly) just from a hacked parent or something and didn't affect anything substantial.

    I recall at some point in either the late 2000s or early 2010s an infamous PokeSav'd Metagross that was floating around that was used by several people in the VGCs or something.

    Official hack checks are terrible, they always have been. Whether its the laughable hack-protection featured for PokeTransporter or other parts, they've never been thorough period and just barely even look for things a human does (illegal balls, etc).

    They never account for actual bits of data (which is why illegal HA Pokemon were transferable, though to my knowledge they fixed this). Heck, the most "thorough" their hack checks ever got for data investigating... is that PokeTransporter blocks out anything with 255 EVs in a stat. 252 is fine. 253-255 is not. Not sure why...

    (his FB post made me laugh, though. How many times did he have to convince himself by having every fifth word be "legit", "legitly", "legitimately", or other variants...?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevenant View Post
    A 6IV Keldeo is perfectly fine. Gen 4 was the last gen where there were any IV restrictions on what could be caught/obtained via wondercards.

    People have hacked in official tournaments for years. At least the Dream Ball was (supposedly) just from a hacked parent or something and didn't affect anything substantial.

    I recall at some point in either the late 2000s or early 2010s an infamous PokeSav'd Metagross that was floating around that was used by several people in the VGCs or something.

    Official hack checks are terrible, they always have been. Whether its the laughable hack-protection featured for PokeTransporter or other parts, they've never been thorough period and just barely even look for things a human does (illegal balls, etc).

    They never account for actual bits of data (which is why illegal HA Pokemon were transferable, though to my knowledge they fixed this). Heck, the most "thorough" their hack checks ever got for data investigating... is that PokeTransporter blocks out anything with 255 EVs in a stat. 252 is fine. 253-255 is not. Not sure why...

    (his FB post made me laugh, though. How many times did he have to convince himself by having every fifth word be "legit", "legitly", "legitimately", or other variants...?)
    Nintendo seriously needs to hire the people in this thread to do their tournament Hack-checking for them.

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    I posted Shiny Genesect's stats in previous page. Everything else was fine(IVs, moves, level, nature, ribbon etc.), but nickname wasn't legit so it was hacked. All pokemons can be hacked with enough effort.

    I got shiny 6IV Darkrai with wrong nature from trade in White 2. I used pokecheck to check stats and it was hacked. Unfortunately Darkrai passed through pokebank and I released that Darkrai in my Pokemon X game.

    There was a tournament in last summer(Global Link), before Pokemon X/Y released. Legendary/special pokemons was allowed to use in that tournament. They announced tournament results too late. Because they detected a lot of hacked pokemons, but Pokebank wasn't able to detect most of hacked pokemons.

    I agree with Varanus. Nintendo should do something for hack-checking. They need to improve it. I think they should able to hack-check pokemons before registering VGC tournaments, rating battles etc. I have some 6IV legendary/event pokemons, but I don't know they are RNG or hack, so I can't use them in VGC tournaments.

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    This is why I hesitated with the Keldeo. The last thing I wanted to do is use it if it was illegal. Mine did end up checking out as far as others could tell, but you just can't tell unless you got it yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevenant View Post
    A 6IV Keldeo is perfectly fine. Gen 4 was the last gen where there were any IV restrictions on what could be caught/obtained via wondercards.
    Gen 4 wondercards use a different method of generation than wild pokemon and thus gen 4 event pokemon from wondercards are not limited to Method J/K spreads. As far as I am aware, any IV/nature combo was possible for gen 4 wondercard events

    Quote Originally Posted by Matsuyamakun View Post
    I agree with Varanus. Nintendo should do something for hack-checking. They need to improve it. I think they should able to hack-check pokemons before registering VGC tournaments, rating battles etc. I have some 6IV legendary/event pokemons, but I don't know they are RNG or hack, so I can't use them in VGC tournaments.
    You're always welcome to post them here to double check We are pretty good at spotting hacks if they are bad enough.
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    Thanks dewey. I don't know much about previous gen events. Here are some 6IV pokemons I have. Their stats, natures look fine to me, so I keep them.

    Pokemon Species: Giratina
    Nickname: N/A
    OT: Joey
    ID No: 42890
    Shiny: Yes
    EV's: None
    IV's: Flawless 6IV
    Nature: Modest
    Characteristic:Capable of taking hits
    Ability: Pressure
    Moves: Shadow Force, Earthquake, Earth Power and Dragon Pulse
    Level: 70
    Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Sinnoh region.
    Pokeball Caught In: Masterball


    Pokemon Species: Rayquaza (JPN, Nobunaga's Rayquaza)
    Nickname: レックウザ
    OT: ノブナガ
    ID No: 03172
    Shiny: Yes
    IV's: Flawless 6IV
    Nature: Hasty
    Characteristic: Somewhat vain
    Ability: Air Lock
    Level: 100
    Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region.
    Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
    Ribbon: Classic Ribbon


    Pokemon Species: Arceus
    Nickname: N/A
    OT: TRU
    ID No: 11079
    Shiny: No
    IV's: Flawless 6IV
    Nature: Timid
    Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
    Ability: Multitype
    Level: 100
    Moves: Calm Mind, Judgment, Special Rend, Recover
    Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Sinnoh region.
    Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
    Ribbon: Classic Ribbon


    Pokemon Species: Suicune
    Nickname: N/A
    OT: WIN2011
    ID No: 02211
    Shiny: Yes
    IV's: Flawless 6IV
    Nature: Relaxed
    Characteristic: Mischievous
    Ability: Pressure
    Level: 100
    Moves: Aqua Ring, Rest, Sleep Talk, Scald
    Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Johto region.
    Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
    Ribbon: Classic Ribbon

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