Hack-Check Thread

[pacack825]

I'm sorry, but this is an incredibly ignorant statement.

I'm just saying that time changing is used a LOT in RNG, and it's not quite a hack since it's not changed via an outside device. Even though I personally consider it to be too far from legitimacy to be legitimate, ergo the quotation signs, he said that he's be uncomfortable about keeping it as a hack, not an RNG, so I wasn't going to judge him. That clear things up? I do see how that comment could be seen as ignorant, and I apologize for that.

Note: I'm assuming that he's using the UK's dating format as well, so the date's year is the only thing badly off.

[Chase23]

Oops, I didn't mean to start an arguement. I just didn't want to keep it if it was a hack. I'm not really sure about RNG either, so I doubt I'll use it. Sorry for kicking up a moral dilemma...

[QuoteMaster]

I'm just saying that time changing is used a LOT in RNG, and it's not quite a hack since it's not changed via an outside device. Even though I personally consider it to be too far from legitimacy to be legitimate, ergo the quotation signs, he said that he's be uncomfortable about keeping it as a hack, not an RNG, so I wasn't going to judge him. That clear things up? I do see how that comment could be seen as ignorant, and I apologize for that.

Note: I'm assuming that he's using the UK's dating format as well, so the date's year is the only thing badly off.

Too far from legitimacy to be legitimate?

You do realize that RNGing uses the same in-game mechanics as regular gameplay, so if you RNGed a shiny Mienfoo, it's still made up of the same stuff as a non-RNGed random encountered one with no aspect of the game altered at all (nothing edited, hacked, etc.). That's why it's tolerated here at Serebii. But then again we shouldn't bring up the subject of RNG ethics here (or any emotions about it), it'll only end in a flamewar. Flamewars suck

[Agonist]

I'm just saying that time changing is used a LOT in RNG, and it's not quite a hack since it's not changed via an outside device. Even though I personally consider it to be too far from legitimacy to be legitimate, ergo the quotation signs, he said that he's be uncomfortable about keeping it as a hack, not an RNG, so I wasn't going to judge him. That clear things up? I do see how that comment could be seen as ignorant, and I apologize for that.

Note: I'm assuming that he's using the UK's dating format as well, so the date's year is the only thing badly off.

Date has no effect on the legitimacy of a Pokemon, since there isn't any sort of restriction preventing you from changing your DS clock (if you get a Pokemon from outside of 2000-2099, then it's a hack).

[pacack825]

Too far from legitimacy to be legitimate?

You do realize that RNGing uses the same in-game mechanics as regular gameplay, so if you RNGed a shiny Mienfoo, it's still made up of the same stuff as a non-RNGed random encountered one with no aspect of the game altered at all (nothing edited, hacked, etc.). That's why it's tolerated here at Serebii. But then again we shouldn't bring up the subject of RNG ethics here (or any emotions about it), it'll only end in a flamewar. Flamewars suck

"Even though I personally consider it to be too far from legitimacy to be legitimate"
That's the main point here. I'm okay with RNGing done by other people for their own use, but the abuse of features in ways that they're not intended to be used is iffy ground for me. Again, for me. Sorry if this came off impolite, as that certainly wasn't the intention . Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and that shouldn't be a reason to argue. I just personally don't like the concept too much; that doesn't mean anyone is wrong here, it just means that our opinions/beliefs differ.

Date has no effect on the legitimacy of a Pokemon, since there isn't any sort of restriction preventing you from changing your DS clock (if you get a Pokemon from outside of 2000-2099, then it's a hack).

I just put in that last bit because it would be an obvious hack if it was saying month 30 and day 5. No other reason there. And there is a reason to be suspicious of a pokemon that has a wrong date, since hackers can do that just as easily as anyone else.

[Agonist]

I just put in that last bit because it would be an obvious hack if it was saying month 30 and day 5. No other reason there. And there is a reason to be suspicious of a pokemon that has a wrong date, since hackers can do that just as easily as anyone else.

My point I was trying to make is that there isn't a wrong date, since the date can be changed so easily, as long as it falls in the twenty-first century.

[pacack825]

My point I was trying to make is that there isn't a wrong date, since the date can be changed so easily, as long as it falls in the twenty-first century.

Yeah, too true. Miscommunication issue, I apologize.

[dewey911p]

And there is a reason to be suspicious of a pokemon that has a wrong date, since hackers can do that just as easily as anyone else.

Speaking from personal experience of having seen far to many hacks on pokecheck and having RNGed over 1,000 pokemon myself, I would say that hackers are far more likely to use current dates than a date far into the future/past. In their often feeble attempts to make their hacks look legit, they somehow think a current date is indicative of legitimacy. RNGers, on the other hand, don't care about the date at all because changing the date is just part of the process. To someone who RNGs it makes no difference if the pokemon is from 2012, or 2099 (I once RNGed a pokemon in the year 2070 just because I was tired of looking at 2011/2012) but hackers tend to hack pokemon on recent dates because I assume the programs they use just grab the date from the computer they were on (pure speculation on my part here). Either way though, as Agonist said, the date is the information that has the least bearing on legitimacy (unless the year is not 2000-2099)

The Ditto looked fine to me though, but the form is always helpful too.

[pacack825]

Speaking from personal experience of having seen far to many hacks on pokecheck and having RNGed over 1,000 pokemon myself, I would say that hackers are far more likely to use current dates than a date far into the future/past. In their often feeble attempts to make their hacks look legit, they somehow think a current date is indicative of legitimacy. RNGers, on the other hand, don't care about the date at all because changing the date is just part of the process. To someone who RNGs it makes no difference if the pokemon is from 2012, or 2099 (I once RNGed a pokemon in the year 2070 just because I was tired of looking at 2011/2012) but hackers tend to hack pokemon on recent dates because I assume the programs they use just grab the date from the computer they were on (pure speculation on my part here). Either way though, as Agonist said, the date is the information that has the least bearing on legitimacy (unless the year is not 2000-2099)

The Ditto looked fine to me though, but the form is always helpful too.

Too true. I know a hack when I see one as well, that'd for sure, but the date is something that they asked about, so I gave my best answer. However, I'm not an RNGer by any means, so I don't know tons about the process. Thanks for correcting me

[chuchu08]

I was suspicious of Chinchou because it was caught in Driftveil City, but then I looked at a Chinchou I caught, and it was caught there, too. I forgot about the surf-able area in Driftveil.

More pokes:

Pokemon Species:Spiritomb
Nickname:in japanese
OT:in japanese
OT gender:male
IDno:54118
Shiny?:no
EVs: N/A
IVs: N/A
Nature: Bold
Characteristic: often scatters things
Ability: infiltrator
Moves: sucker punch, nasty plot, memento, dark pulse
Level Caught: apparently arrived at level 50
Current Level:50
Stats:118/88/129/99/120/42
Location Caught: link trade
Egg?:???
Pokeball caught in: poke ball
any other notes?:none

Spiritomb is fine its the one you can get from Curtis in the game. http://www.serebii.net/black2white2/droppeditem.shtml

Am I missing something, or is this impossible? Infiltrator, but 'arrived at' level 50? Is there a reasonable explanation for this one?

Yeah its the Spiritomb you can get from Curtis or Yancy in the game.http://www.serebii.net/black2white2/droppeditem.shtml

[x.a.x]

I was checking my 3rd gen events I found out some of my 10 Aniv pokes had

Unknown GBA PID

http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3208218&headless&la
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3208221&headless&la
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3208225&headless&la
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3208256&headless&la
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3208258&headless&la

and two of my Aniv pokes had

Secret ID missing, probably hacked

http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3208279&headless&la
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3208272&headless&la

and I have WISHMKR Jirachi , Space C Deoxys, Mystry Mew and Ruby & Sapphire Zigzagoon

who been in the website over 50 times

http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3208233&headless&la
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3208241&headless&la
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3208269&headless&la
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3208251&headless&la
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3208247&headless&la

I have 10 Aniv Alakazam that look good but can you check it too

http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3208204&headless&la

can someone tell me if any of them is hacked

[QuoteMaster]

I was checking my 3rd gen events I found out some of my 10 Aniv pokes had

Unknown GBA PID

http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3208218&headless&la
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3208221&headless&la
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3208225&headless&la
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3208256&headless&la
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3208258&headless&la

and two of my Aniv pokes had

Secret ID missing, probably hacked

http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3208279&headless&la
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3208272&headless&la

and I have WISHMKR Jirachi , Space C Deoxys, Mystry Mew and Ruby & Sapphire Zigzagoon

who been in the website over 50 times

http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3208233&headless&la
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3208241&headless&la
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3208269&headless&la
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3208251&headless&la
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3208247&headless&la

I have 10 Aniv Alakazam that look good but can you check it too

http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3208204&headless&la

can someone tell me if any of them is hacked

We can't see your pokemon x.a.x since you didn't associate them into your account.

However, "Unknown GBA PID" is usually an indicator of a hack, but I'm not an expert on 3rd gen events, so "Unkown GBA PID" might mean that the event is a little obscure. A good portion of popular 3rd gen events are ultra-obscure like the wish events and PCNY's. However since there are more 10th Anniversary pokemon around than the two aforementioned events (I think), Pokecheck might be accurate for those events, I'm not sure.

[x.a.x]

I made them as photos because I don't have account in pokecheck

Unknown GBA PID

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/6992/articuno.jpg
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7886/latias.jpg
http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/319/latios.jpg
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/9104/moltres.jpg
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4203/zapdosx.jpg

and two of my Aniv pokes had

Secret ID missing, probably hacked

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7294/bulbasaurk.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/764/blastiose.jpg

and I have WISHMKR Jirachi , Space C Deoxys, Mystry Mew and Ruby & Sapphire Zigzagoon

who been in the website over 50 times

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/9708/deoxys.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/2783/jirachis.jpg
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/2760/mewdf.jpg
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/8800/rubyn.jpg
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9769/sapphire.jpg

I have 10 Aniv Alakazam that look good but can you check it too

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/4229/alakazam.jpg

[Rayce]

I made them as photos because I don't have account in pokecheck

Unknown GBA PID

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/6992/articuno.jpg
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7886/latias.jpg
http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/319/latios.jpg
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/9104/moltres.jpg
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4203/zapdosx.jpg

All these are indeed hacked. =/

Secret ID missing, probably hacked

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7294/bulbasaurk.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/764/blastiose.jpg

Blastoise is hacked, Bulbasaur is fine. Pokecheck shows that flag for some events, and others not at all.

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/9708/deoxys.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/2783/jirachis.jpg
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/2760/mewdf.jpg
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/8800/rubyn.jpg
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9769/sapphire.jpg

Youre RUBY Zigzagoon is hacked, and the others are fine. You are right though, they are pretty spammed.

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/4229/alakazam.jpg

This one is hacked.

If you have questions about these, contact me by PM. Hope I could help!

[nuclearschoolboy]

I got this Porygon-Z in exchange for my Deoxys.

It's shiny.
Bold nature.
4/1/2011 - WiFi Gift
Apparently had a fateful encounter at Lv. 100.
Strong willed.
ID No. 42314
Ability: Download

Stats:
- HP: 369
- Attack: 171
- Defense: 239
- Sp. Atk: 301
- Sp. Def: 185
- Speed: 201


And I also got this Girantina in exchange for my Lugia.

It's shiny.
Mild nature.
3/31/2011 - Johto
Apparently arrived at Lv. 100.
Very finicky.
ID No. 07764

Stats:
- HP: 434
- Attack: 251
- Defense: 246
- Sp. Atk: 278
- Sp. Def: 265
- Speed: 216

[QuoteMaster]

I got this Porygon-Z in exchange for my Deoxys.

It's shiny.
Bold nature.
4/1/2011 - WiFi Gift
Apparently had a fateful encounter at Lv. 100.
Strong willed.
ID No. 42314
Ability: Download

Stats:
- HP: 369
- Attack: 171
- Defense: 239
- Sp. Atk: 301
- Sp. Def: 185
- Speed: 201


And I also got this Girantina in exchange for my Lugia.

It's shiny.
Mild nature.
3/31/2011 - Johto
Apparently arrived at Lv. 100.
Very finicky.
ID No. 07764

Stats:
- HP: 434
- Attack: 251
- Defense: 246
- Sp. Atk: 278
- Sp. Def: 265
- Speed: 216

That Porygon-Z is a common hack. Giratina seems okay, but I would like to know it's OT.

[Rayce]

Is that Giratina in a Pokeball?

[nuclearschoolboy]

@QuoteMaster
Giratina's OT is JBLZ.

@Rayce
It's in a classic red-white Pokeball.

Is it hacked?

[PokeBreederJon]

Shaymin
OT:In Japanese
OT Gender:Blue
IDno:05775
Not Shiny
EVs:N/A
IVs:N/A
Nature:Hasty
Characteristic:Good perserverance
Ability:Natural Cure
Moves:Growth, Magical Leaf, Leech Seed, Synthesis
Level caught at:Apparently arrived at level 30. Fateful encounter.
Current Level:30
Stats:104/68/65/71/71/75
Location Caught:Sinnoh
Egg?:No
Pokeball Caught in:Nest Ball
Notes:none

[Agonist]

Shaymin
OT:In Japanese
OT Gender:Blue
IDno:05775
Not Shiny
EVs:N/A
IVs:N/A
Nature:Hasty
Characteristic:Good perserverance
Ability:Natural Cure
Moves:Growth, Magical Leaf, Leech Seed, Synthesis
Level caught at:Apparently arrived at level 30. Fateful encounter.
Current Level:30
Stats:104/68/65/71/71/75
Location Caught:Sinnoh
Egg?:No
Pokeball Caught in:Nest Ball
Notes:none

From the info given, it looks legal.