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    Quote Originally Posted by Naemeria View Post
    It has to do with RNG. Usually natures and IVs are random, but with RNG, you can decide what you get for IVs and natures. Only certain gifted event legends are shiny: Japanese Genesect, Sinnoh Dragons and Johto dogs (afaik, there might be more). Ofcourse encounter legends can be RNGd to shiny, perfect IVs and correcy nature.
    Rayquaza was given as shiny as well as Jirachi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arbalest View Post
    ...what?
    3rd and 4th gen method 1 is exactly the same, all method 1 spreads are (eventually) possible for Emerald, and for Emerald emulator RNGers 1 billion is a reasonable frame (although I prefer a different method that uses the one time Emerald actually seeds properly rather than waiting for high frames).

    Hex Timid is 176,562,489 btw.
    Frame 176 562 489 gets Impish, IVs: 27, 22, 27, 4, 11, 11. Emerald always uses Method 1, and its seed is always 0. I RNGed plenty of times in Emerald and the starting seed was always 0, no exception. Unless there's a way to get a different starting seed that wasn't mentioned.

    And if this requires emulator RNG, then doesn't it count as cheating? You'll be doing something that's impossible to do by hand.
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    Pokemon Species: Rayquaza
    Nickname: Rayquaza
    OT: Nate
    OT Gender: Unknown
    IDno: 27977
    Shiny?: No
    EV's: 252 Atk / 6 SpD / 252 Spe
    IV's: 31/31/31/17/31/31
    Nature: Adamant
    Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
    Ability: Air Lock
    Moves: it had Outrage, Fly, Overheat, and Blizzard when received
    Level Caught at: 50
    Current Level: 100
    Stats: 351 HP / 438 Atk / 216 Def / 289 SpA / 217 SpD / 289 Spe
    Location Caught: Johto
    Egg?: No
    Pokeball Caught In: Dusk Ball
    Any other notes?:
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    Quote Originally Posted by NitoriAria View Post
    Pokemon Species: Rayquaza
    Nickname: Rayquaza
    OT: Nate
    OT Gender: Unknown
    IDno: 27977
    Shiny?: No
    EV's: 252 Atk / 6 SpD / 252 Spe
    IV's: 31/31/31/17/31/31
    Nature: Adamant
    Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
    Ability: Air Lock
    Moves: it had Outrage, Fly, Overheat, and Blizzard when received
    Level Caught at: 50
    Current Level: 100
    Stats: 351 HP / 438 Atk / 216 Def / 289 SpA / 217 SpD / 289 Spe
    Location Caught: Johto
    Egg?: No
    Pokeball Caught In: Dusk Ball
    Any other notes?:
    Looks perfectly fine. 31, 31, 31, 17, 31, 31 is the highest IV spread Adamant nature can get in Generation IV Legendary encounter. HGSS RNG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DX 2401PT View Post
    Frame 176 562 489 gets Impish, IVs: 27, 22, 27, 4, 11, 11.
    That's 176,652,489, not 176,562,489.
    I RNGed plenty of times in Emerald and the starting seed was always 0, no exception. Unless there's a way to get a different starting seed that wasn't mentioned.
    It seeds properly when you first start a new game, very useful for emulator RNGing.
    And if this requires emulator RNG, then doesn't it count as cheating?
    If you ask 100 different people what counts as cheating you'll get 100 different answers, but unless you're a hard core event collector with amazingly rare things to offer (in which case you're probably not using this thread to check your stuff) the best shiny Mew you can reasonably hope for is from a cheat code to activate the event anyways.
    You'll be doing something that's impossible to do by hand.
    Not impossible, just requires more time than any sane person would spend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arbalest View Post
    That's 176,652,489, not 176,562,489.
    It seeds properly when you first start a new game, very useful for emulator RNGing.
    If you ask 100 different people what counts as cheating you'll get 100 different answers, but unless you're a hard core event collector with amazingly rare things to offer (in which case you're probably not using this thread to check your stuff) the best shiny Mew you can reasonably hope for is from a cheat code to activate the event anyways.
    Not impossible, just requires more time than any sane person would spend.
    Ah, found it. 2043 days, rounded down, of waiting for that spread to occur. Alright, fine. It IS possible. Technically (who's going to wait 5.5 years, with a capable timer, to try to hit a 1/60 second time zone?).

    I suppose it depends on your definition of hacking/cheating. I find this emulator RNG to be acceptable, but barely, as it involves using a cheat to activate the event in the first place, and probably some sort of device/program to get a Pokemon from an emulated game to an actual one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DX 2401PT View Post
    Looks perfectly fine. 31, 31, 31, 17, 31, 31 is the highest IV spread Adamant nature can get in Generation IV Legendary encounter. HGSS RNG.
    Actually, 31/31/31/24/31/31 is the highest possible IV total for an Adamant nature. The 31/31/31/17/31/31 spread just has the lowest frames and delay, so most people go for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dewey911p View Post
    Actually, 31/31/31/24/31/31 is the highest possible IV total for an Adamant nature. The 31/31/31/17/31/31 spread just has the lowest frames and delay, so most people go for that.
    Right. Working off of memory here, and I remember going for shiny Adamant IV: 31, 31, 31, 17, 31, 31 because that was the optimal spread for being practically perfect and does not require an insane amount of frame advancements for Sinjoh Ruins RNG.
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    Pokemon Species: Shaymin
    Nickname: PokéIsland
    OT: FACEBOOK
    OT Gender: N/A
    IDno: 12014
    Shiny?: No
    EV's: (if known) Unknown
    IV's: (if known) Unknown
    Nature: Timid
    Characteristic: Alert to sounds
    Ability: Natural Cure
    Moves: Growth/Magical Leaf/Seed Flare/Air Slash
    Level Caught at: 15
    Current Level: 15
    Stats: Atk 35/Def 39/Sp. A 49/Sp. D 39/Speed 53
    Location Caught: a lovely place
    Egg?: No
    Pokeball Caught In: Quick Ball
    Any other notes?: 1.) Listed as a Japanese shaymin. 2.) Acquired over GTS. 3.) Successfully transformed with Gracidea. 4.) Why the frell would anybody offer a shaymin for a mightyena? Smells fishy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sike Saner View Post
    Pokemon Species: Shaymin
    Nickname: PokéIsland
    OT: FACEBOOK
    OT Gender: N/A
    IDno: 12014
    Shiny?: No
    EV's: (if known) Unknown
    IV's: (if known) Unknown
    Nature: Timid
    Characteristic: Alert to sounds
    Ability: Natural Cure
    Moves: Growth/Magical Leaf/Seed Flare/Air Slash
    Level Caught at: 15
    Current Level: 15
    Stats: Atk 35/Def 39/Sp. A 49/Sp. D 39/Speed 53
    Location Caught: a lovely place
    Egg?: No
    Pokeball Caught In: Quick Ball
    Any other notes?: 1.) Listed as a Japanese shaymin. 2.) Acquired over GTS. 3.) Successfully transformed with Gracidea. 4.) Why the frell would anybody offer a shaymin for a mightyena? Smells fishy.
    I'm not aware of any event Shaymin given out in a Quick Ball, which means if this event is legal it has to be a recent Gen 6 Japanese event. If that's the case then it's hacked since events can't be nicknamed without RNGing, which isn't possible in gen 6 as far as I am aware. All in all this is a terrible hack no matter how you look at it. This doesn't match any event from gen 4 or 5 and it can't be RNGed in gen 6 so it isn't possible to nickname it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dewey911p View Post
    I'm not aware of any event Shaymin given out in a Quick Ball, which means if this event is legal it has to be a recent Gen 6 Japanese event. If that's the case then it's hacked since events can't be nicknamed without RNGing, which isn't possible in gen 6 as far as I am aware. All in all this is a terrible hack no matter how you look at it. This doesn't match any event from gen 4 or 5 and it can't be RNGed in gen 6 so it isn't possible to nickname it.
    If it's the Oak's letter event, it can be in whatever ball you catch it in.

    Edit: nvm, that one was lv 30. its hacked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GooberTheAlmightyMudkip View Post
    If it's the Oak's letter event, it can be in whatever ball you catch it in.

    Edit: nvm, that one was lv 30. its hacked.
    That is correct, only level 15 Shaymin comes in a Cherish Ball so yeah, it's hacked.

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    Thought as much; thanks for the confirmation.
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    Pokemon species: regirock
    Nickname: gipsy danger
    OT: URALYA
    OT Gender: unkown
    IDno: 03025
    Shiny?: yes
    EV's: hp close to maxed out and defense also
    IV's: all 31
    Nature: impish
    Chararacteristic: mischievous
    Ability: clear body
    Moves: stealth rock, drain punch, explosion, rock slide
    Level caught at: lv40
    Current level: lv100
    Stats: hp364 attack299 defense479 sp. Atk122 sp. Def237
    Location caught at: desert ruins
    Egg?: no
    Pokeball caught in: nest ball
    Any other notes: i got this one from wonder trade, when i saw this i thought it was hacked

    Pokemon species: keldeo
    Nickname: keldeo
    OT: something in jananese
    OT Gender: unkown
    IDno: 12014
    Shiny?: no
    EV's: 252 sp atk 252 spe 4 hp
    IV's: all 31
    Nature: timid
    Chararacteristic: alert to sounds
    Ability: justified
    Moves: aqua jet, secret sword, double kick, hydro pump
    Level caught at: 15
    Current level: 15
    Stats: hp57 atk27 def36 sp atk57 sp def36 spe56
    Location caught at: a lovely place
    Egg?: no
    Pokeball caught in: cherish ball
    Any other notes: it has a blue pentagon wich makes me suspicious
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedy1 View Post
    Pokemon species: regirock
    Nickname: gipsy danger
    OT: URALYA
    OT Gender: unkown
    IDno: 03025
    Shiny?: yes
    EV's: hp close to maxed out and defense also
    IV's: all 31
    Nature: impish
    Chararacteristic: mischievous
    Ability: clear body
    Moves: stealth rock, drain punch, explosion, rock slide
    Level caught at: lv40
    Current level: lv100
    Stats: hp364 attack299 defense479 sp. Atk122 sp. Def237
    Location caught at: desert ruins
    Egg?: no
    Pokeball caught in: nest ball
    Any other notes: i got this one from wonder trade, when i saw this i thought it was hacked

    Pokemon species: keldeo
    Nickname: keldeo
    OT: something in jananese
    OT Gender: unkown
    IDno: 12014
    Shiny?: no
    EV's: 252 sp atk 252 spe 4 hp
    IV's: all 31
    Nature: timid
    Chararacteristic: alert to sounds
    Ability: justified
    Moves: aqua jet, secret sword, double kick, hydro pump
    Level caught at: 15
    Current level: 15
    Stats: hp57 atk27 def36 sp atk57 sp def36 spe56
    Location caught at: a lovely place
    Egg?: no
    Pokeball caught in: cherish ball
    Any other notes: it has a blue pentagon wich makes me suspicious
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    Only keldeo that out that have blue pentagon is the poke scrap i think and it name in Jpn (should say ケルディオ )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naemeria View Post
    Since there is no RNGing in gen VI, 6IV legendaries are almost always edited. Wouldn't trust them myself.
    Don't always take that for granted, even if it is a low chance it is still possible to find 5-6 IV Legends, with an extreme amount of luck / patience.
    I fave found 2 5IV Legends by SR in OR so far, so it is possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuken View Post
    Don't always take that for granted, even if it is a low chance it is still possible to find 5-6 IV Legends, with an extreme amount of luck / patience.
    I fave found 2 5IV Legends by SR in OR so far, so it is possible.
    That's why I said "almost always". Sure, it is possible but the chances are very low. If you have the patience to SR your legendary, you won't just give it away on WT, even if it's cloned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naemeria View Post
    That's why I said "almost always". Sure, it is possible but the chances are very low. If you have the patience to SR your legendary, you won't just give it away on WT, even if it's cloned.
    This! ^

    Also, is highly unlikely that you would ever get a shiny pokemon with 6IVs in 6th gen like Regirock, it is much safer assume the pokemon is edited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naemeria View Post
    That's why I said "almost always". Sure, it is possible but the chances are very low. If you have the patience to SR your legendary, you won't just give it away on WT, even if it's cloned.
    I give away flawless cloned things on WT/GTS all the time. Just saying.
    That being said, the Regirock in question is most likely hacked (or at least it's safer to assume that it is).
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    This is my first time posting in this thread so please be patient if I sound like I don't know much about hacked Pokemon.

    My mum was doing some wonder trading last night and she got a shiny Jirachi. I've given it a look over and it doesn't look like a clone of the event, it's a hack. I am wondering if it's a good hack, and is therefore safe. I don't want using this Jirachi to damage my mums save data in any way.

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    ID No: 24434
    Date Met: 8/7/2014
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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlieDoryRose View Post
    This is my first time posting in this thread so please be patient if I sound like I don't know much about hacked Pokemon.

    My mum was doing some wonder trading last night and she got a shiny Jirachi. I've given it a look over and it doesn't look like a clone of the event, it's a hack. I am wondering if it's a good hack, and is therefore safe. I don't want using this Jirachi to damage my mums save data in any way.

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    Nature: Timid
    HP: 341
    Att: 212
    Def: 236
    SpAtt: 299
    Dp Def: 237
    Speed: 328
    ID No: 24434
    Date Met: 8/7/2014
    Where: PC Tohoku
    Level Met: 10
    Note: Apparently a fateful encounter
    Characteristic: Likes to thrash about

    Like I said, I know this isn't a clone because of the name being in English instead of Japanese and it doesn't have the event ribbon. But is this a dangerous kind of hack that was done poorly, or is it safe to use? Please excuse my lack of knowledge on these things.
    It's clearly hacked, but hacks can't damage your game, so if you want to hold onto it just because you like Shiny Jirachi, there's no problem with that. Just don't trade it around the forums and you should be fine.
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    Pokemon Species: Shaymin
    Nickname: Shaymin
    OT: TRU
    OT Gender: None
    IDno:02089
    Shiny?: No
    EV's: (if known) UT (From Looking at Super Training)
    IV's: (if known) no clue
    Nature: Careful
    Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
    Ability: Natural Cure
    Moves: Seed Flare, Aromatherapy, Substitute, Energy Ball
    Level Caught at: Unknown
    Current Level: 50
    HP: 161
    Attack: 113
    Defense: 107
    Sp. Atk.: 100
    Sp. Def.: 116
    Speed: 109
    Location Caught: Sinnoh
    Egg?: No
    Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
    Any other notes?: Has Classic Ribbon, Successful transform with Gracidea

    Just making sure it's legit and thank you for the help in advance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlameWolf View Post
    Pokemon Species: Shaymin
    Nickname: Shaymin
    OT: TRU
    OT Gender: None
    IDno:02089
    Shiny?: No
    EV's: (if known) UT (From Looking at Super Training)
    IV's: (if known) no clue
    Nature: Careful
    Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
    Ability: Natural Cure
    Moves: Seed Flare, Aromatherapy, Substitute, Energy Ball
    Level Caught at: Unknown
    Current Level: 50
    HP: 161
    Attack: 113
    Defense: 107
    Sp. Atk.: 100
    Sp. Def.: 116
    Speed: 109
    Location Caught: Sinnoh
    Egg?: No
    Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
    Any other notes?: Has Classic Ribbon, Successful transform with Gracidea

    Just making sure it's legit and thank you for the help in advance!
    That looks like the Toys R' Us Shaymin given out in Gen 4, the Ribbon, Ball, OT, and ID No all match the Event Database and my own Shaymin from the event. Does it have a fateful encounter tag? Checking the IVs either with an online calculator or with the IV Checker in Kiloude City/Battle Resort would be a big help to determine if it's legal. So far, though, it appears fine.

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    Pokemon Species:Landorus
    Nickname:
    OT:Cactus
    OT Gender:?
    IDno:52501
    Shiny?:Yes
    EV's: 252Attack, 252Speed, 6Hp
    IV's:31/31/31/31/31/31
    Nature:Jolly
    Characteristic:Alert to sounds
    Ability:Sheer Force
    Moves:Outrage, Hammer Arm, Earthquake, Stone Edge
    Level Caught at:?
    Current Level:100
    Stats:320/389/216/221/196/309
    Location Caught:Unova Region
    Egg?:No
    Pokeball Caught In:Pokeball
    Any other notes?:This is the first time I ever had a Pokemon that was "untrade-able." I don't remember how I got it(maybe in the GTS?), but I cannot trade it through wifi or the GTS and it does not get traded when depositing it into the GTS either. I thought maybe it had something to do with the fact that it has its hidden ability.. I'm not sure what the problem is, anyone have any ideas?
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