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    Quote Originally Posted by LordVader2719 View Post
    Pretty sure he meant stat.

    If you miss with Draco Meteor, you're in just as much trouble whether it lowers your Special Attack or not. People tend to switch out after using those kinds of moves, since the Special Attack is simply too low to do anything else or the opponent has switched into a a counter for it.
    Nope I just Abbreviated Special Attack. But I am sure that if gamefreak added stat drop on misses, Latios would just run Dragon Pulse more often.
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    The abbreviation for Special Attack is Sp. Atk.

    I prefer to run Dragon Pulse on mine regardless. Draco Meteor is good, but I really don't like the stat drop.
    Same goes for inaccurate moves. I'll use the weaker version just to ensure a hit.


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    What are we guys talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordVader2719 View Post
    The abbreviation for Special Attack is Sp. Atk.

    I prefer to run Dragon Pulse on mine regardless. Draco Meteor is good, but I really don't like the stat drop.
    Same goes for inaccurate moves. I'll use the weaker version just to ensure a hit.
    I sort of disagree here, personally I prefer power power over accuracy, fireblast > flamethrower for example. I don't like attacks like thunder and focus blast with 70% accuracy though, I say 85% is as low as I go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheeselord View Post
    I sort of disagree here, personally I prefer power power over accuracy, fireblast > flamethrower for example. I don't like attacks like thunder and focus blast with 70% accuracy though, I say 85% is as low as I go.
    Even 85 is a bit low for me, but I've had bad experiences with aqua tail in the past

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    90% is as low as I go, unless I have no other option. Like Focus Blast on Alakazam or Stone Edge on Entei. If a Pokémon can learn Aura Sphere (or even Vacuum Wave) or Rock Slide, I'm using it.

    Of course, I also like to have my Pokémon usable in both singles and doubles, so Rock Slide is a must if it's an option. I'll also use Heat Wave over Flamethrower, unless it's specifically for singles.
    Moves like Surf and Discharge are different, however, as they also hit the ally. For the most part, I'll go with Scald and Thunderbolt, respectively.


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    I agree about stone edge actually, I forgot that only had 80%, on alakazam though I'd rather use HP fight than focus blast.
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    Is there a way to raise accuracy after its been dropped by a move like Sand-attack? You guys are talking about accuracy dropping and this just popped into my mind.



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    Quote Originally Posted by magicat View Post
    Is there a way to raise accuracy after its been dropped by a move like Sand-attack? You guys are talking about accuracy dropping and this just popped into my mind.
    There are some moves like Coil and Hone claws, but the best way is to just switch out. I am fairly sure that stat lowering moves are still banned in competitive play.
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    I'd assume they are... I was thinking more like aobut when i got B2 or W2 and sand attack and moves like that when I started the game.



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    Accuracy lowing moves, such as Sand Attack, are NOT banned in competitive play. The reason is because you can switch out to fix it. Evasion increasing moves, however, are banned.

    Hone Claws and Coil are very good moves, but only on the right Pokémon. For instance, Substitute Elektross loves the Defense boost of Coil, and can benefit quite a bit from the Attack and Accuracy increase.


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    What are your guys prefered set up for Salamence?

    Because, I have a very good one, can be used in OU and Uber I believe

    252 Atk, 252 Spd :last few doesnt really matter.

    Outrage, Key move on the set.
    Brick Break
    Aqua Tail
    Fire Fang

    Jolly nature; ability Moxie
    Choice Scarf

    A good player should be able to use this very good. Watch out for poke's like Foretress or Ferro. Proper Prediction with fire fang would help. If the opponent is running an uber team with most of the pokemon dragon type. After the first fainted pokemon, Salamence is already stacked.




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    Quote Originally Posted by KnightDiaz View Post
    What are your guys prefered set up for Salamence?

    Because, I have a very good one, can be used in OU and Uber I believe

    252 Atk, 252 Spd :last few doesnt really matter.

    Outrage, Key move on the set.
    Brick Break
    Aqua Tail
    Fire Fang

    Jolly nature; ability Moxie
    Choice Scarf

    A good player should be able to use this very good. Watch out for poke's like Foretress or Ferro. Proper Prediction with fire fang would help. If the opponent is running an uber team with most of the pokemon dragon type. After the first fainted pokemon, Salamence is already stacked.

    This is what I would go with. Its a quick set that has good coverage and can be used in both single and doubles.

    252 At 252 speed
    Moxie @ Choice scarf
    Adamant

    Dragon claw
    Earthquake
    Crunch
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    Personally I say outrage > dragon claw on choice sets, you need as much raw power as possible, I also think fire fang would work as an alternative to rock slide, fire fang hits steels that resist eq and hits scizor, ferro and forry for 4x damage, all rock slide hurts really is gyarados, thunderus and torndaus (off the top of my head), I'm pretty sure that all of those things would die to an outrage as well. With B/W 2 though salamence may get some new moves, I haven't yet looked at the move tutor list so I may be wrong.

    Also the main problem with almost any salamence is that heatran will completely troll it, it can come in on a fire or earth move and take no damage (assuming it has balloon which it almost always does) then set up free stealth rocks or get a free hit on the inevitable switch in, this could be countered with brick break or aqua tail (I'm guessing that's why KnightDiaz included them in his set) but personally I wouldn't bother, I think that all the other moves serve more purposes. I suppose brick break or aqua tail could be swapped out for rock slide instead of fire fang but then when faced with skarmory, scizor, ferrothorn of forretress you will have to switch or take more than one turn to KO them, allowing them to set up and possibly being hit by a crippling thunder wave in the process. Therefor I say:

    Outrage
    Earthquake
    Crunch
    Fire fang

    The evs and stuff are fine, also I wouldn't bother going mixed with overheat or whatever just focus on physical attack.
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    Dragon Claw over Outrage for doubles, but Outrage over Dragon Claw in singles. You can't choose your target with Outrage, so it isn't worth the power.

    Smogon suggests Fire Blast, even on physical sets. I'm guessing it's stronger than Fire Fang, even when running a -Sp. Atk nature.

    For doubles, Bacon's set is the best. Hitting both opponents is one of the most important things, even though the power is decreased.
    For singles... Well, Salamence's movepool is too large to say which is the best. But if it works, it works.


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    I don't feel invited because I have no clue what you're talking about. So I am quitting. I am not getting poached, but I am not ready here. Good bye.
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    Have you tried reading the conversation? Could be helpful.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wonjoon0330 View Post
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    Welcome to the clan!
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    Holy Stunfisk! Someone joined! Perhaps I won't prepare to close the clan. I probably would have by now if I wasn't so lazy.

    Anyway, welcome to the clan! Stay active, and everyone will be happy.


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    Thank you and nice to meet you all! ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by wonjoon0330 View Post
    Thank you and nice to meet you all! ^^
    Welcome to the clan

    Also I wont be on during the week days unless i have school off that day from school sadly..... That is until the cross country season ends.



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    I really don't like not seeing a new post after being off the entire day.

    Let's get some kind of discussion going, shall we? How about some BW2 movesets?


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    Quote Originally Posted by LordVader2719 View Post
    I really don't like not seeing a new post after being off the entire day.

    Let's get some kind of discussion going, shall we? How about some BW2 movesets?
    There will be new move setsss??????? Either way im gettign it tomrroww!!! ALSOOO have you guyz heard about the genesect event?



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