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    Default my attempt to shake up the metagame...

    well this team has been in the making since 4th gen, many are already trained and ready for action, some must be bred but i have the concepts, wanted sum constructive feedback.

    Swampert @ leftovers
    ability: torrent
    Sassy 31 iv's in hp, att, def and sp def
    EV's: 252 hp, 100 att, 100 def, 52 sp def

    stealth rock
    ice punch
    earthquake
    waterfall

    bulky water with rocks, can take hits and gets decent coverage. not easily walled, murders dragons. ferroseed bait, but what bulky water isn't?

    Scizor @ leichi berry
    ability: technician
    adamant 31 IV's in att, def and (hp i think, dont remember its on my gold, im lazy to check)
    EV's: 100 hp, 252 att, 152 speed

    agility
    aerial ace
    bug bite
    brick break

    meant to tank and abuse technician, come in and agility and hit as hard as i can as long as im well matched. shandy, ape and most other reliable counters are outsped and hit hard by technician aerial ace, hopefully i make it to leichi range and the real fun begins, plus can function in sandstorm...

    lucario @ wise glasses
    ability: inner focus
    modest 31 IV's in hp, sp att and speed (by now you can tell im an avid breeder)
    EV's: 252 sp att, 252 speed, 4 hp

    agility
    aura sphere
    draco pulse
    shadow ball

    perfect neutral coverage, draco pulse for dragons, unexpected set, what more could you want? crushes shandera, mole switches in expecting to outspeed will be OHKO by sphere, nuff sed.

    electivire @ muscle band
    ability: motor drive
    jolly 31 IV's in hp, att, speed
    EV's: 252 att, 252 speed 4 hp

    wild charge
    ice punch
    fire punch
    cross chop

    hits all th major threats hard, especially dragons, scizor, ferrothorn, etc. wild charge is just what he needs to be viable i think, nice coverage to round everything off.

    salamence @ choice specs
    ability: intimidate
    timid 31 IV's in hp, def, sp att and speed (no bs!!!!)
    EV's: 252 sp att, 252 speed, 4 hp

    draco meteor
    draco pulse
    flame thrower
    hydro pump

    the closest poke to absolute perfection i have ever achieved, hits hard and fast. switch in, meteor in yo mouth! switch out. other moves for coverage, pulse if consistency becomes necessary.

    ferrothorn @ rugged helmet
    ability: steel thorns
    sassy, yet to breed
    252 hp, 100 def, 100 sp def, 52 att

    leech seed
    stealth rock
    power whip
    gyro ball

    restore rocks, wall, attack if needs must a set i think could be successful, correct me if im wrong...

    so rate my team! i know i dont have priority, mite put in DD nite, wanted a cleric as most of my team is crippled under status, not sure what to take out if these two things are a glaring necessity. cleric could be natural cure roserade, as my first choice, i appreciate all feedback in advance!
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    Why is using all the most common pokemon shaking up the metagame?



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    Dood you have the most commen OU pokemon in the game plus scizor needs bulletpunch plus salemance is uber weak against frosslas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ventkey15 View Post
    Dood you have the most commen OU pokemon in the game plus scizor needs bulletpunch plus salemance is uber weak against frosslas
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    Uhh... If Swampert is Ferrothorn bait then salamence has fainted, aren't you half screwed against a sub-ferrothorn?

    Your team is walled by heatran when swampert goes down, especially if they have a frosslass (gengar is more common but heck)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Throhlurk View Post
    Why is using all the most common pokemon shaking up the metagame?
    im using different sets for scizor and lucario, opting for a more physical swampert, using different EV spreads etc. muscle band is an expert belt without the necessity of super effective btw
    ferro is hit hard by everything but scizor, as brick break will do negligible damage i know. and i dont want bullet punch, agility remedies speed and bullet punch makes him shandy fodder, the whole point was a not so standard set on some standard pokes. mence cant come in on lass, but if her fragile a** comes in on a specs meteor what happens? got pert, luc and scizor as other reliable lass counters, u aint sayin nuffin
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdawg3574 View Post
    im using different sets for scizor and lucario, opting for a more physical swampert, using different EV spreads etc. muscle band is an expert belt without the necessity of super effective btw
    Expert belt raises power by 10% compared to muscle bands tiny 4%. He hits almost everything SE so expert belt is best choice.







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    Quote Originally Posted by 123fakestreet View Post
    Expert belt raises power by 10% compared to muscle bands tiny 4%. He hits almost everything SE so expert belt is best choice.
    really? i thought it was 20% for both...
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    Name: Cyrus. i hav finally arrived on wifi, tremble before my might, mwuhahaha! pm for trades and battles.
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    Well Froslass in my team isn't a lead....so ur salance is like bait and since lass is much faster than salamance and a blizzard will own slamance.Plus I really do think bullet punch should take out bug bite or agility theres no point scizor wont need to set up if he has bullet punch.
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    I'd teach swampert roar over either ice punch or waterfall
    Scizor sucks. teach it bullet punch, sword dance, aerial ace, ?baton pass?
    Lucario should have a choice scarf and know psychic for agility
    Salamence should be mixmence. Much better

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