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    Quote Originally Posted by epic_eevee View Post
    Also why are we talking about 3v3...it's not even an official metagame, ololol
    because it is competitive pokemon, which is what this section is about

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    There are still some pokemon that prefer to be led with, but given team preview it's true that dedicated leads have hit hard times. 3 vs. 3 in particular has little or no want of leads, because doing so means you lose 1/3rd of your staying power and open yourself up to having your lead countered.

    However, in Infrared battles (no team preview), having a real lead is still important.
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    I run a lead and an anti-lead. Team Preview lets me figure out which to send out first.


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    i still find dedicated lead pokemon useful in 5th gen
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    But wait. If u play random matchup singles u fight 3 of ur pokes against 3 of ur opponents. Doesnt that mean that a lead is practically useless. at least stealth rock is

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    leads still work. without stealth rock, dragonite takes in ice beam from life orb nidoking and survives.
    taunt is still great for stopping set up.

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    Unusual Leads thrive more in this metagame as they are completely unexpected to actually be leads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobmonkey07 View Post
    leads still work. without stealth rock, dragonite takes in ice beam from life orb nidoking and survives.
    taunt is still great for stopping set up.
    Why would nidoking use ice beam? no doubt he survives



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    Quote Originally Posted by Chandelure181 View Post
    Why would nidoking use ice beam? no doubt he survives
    Nidoking uses ice beam because his physical movepool sucks and anyway his spatk is about the same as his atk
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    I still use an entry hazard lead. You should just adept to the new feature of team preview and create your lead in such a way it is still capable of doing it's job, which isn't too hard.

    However I dislike the team preview, it can be very useful in prediction.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chandelure181 View Post
    Why would nidoking use ice beam? no doubt he survives
    Get some knowledge please. Special is Nidokings only viable attack option, since his SpAtt is about the same as it's Att and it's special movepool is far greater.
    Nidoking is a special attacker 99% of the times.
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    I usually carry a lead (mainly for sr) since there's so much ninetails running around (sun)

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    For my OU team my lead is crustle. It's amazing. It's stayed in for-ever. I never see it, and I just look at it's movepool and stats and I go... ka-boom.
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    My fav. leads in OU T-tar, gliscor, Swampert (still pretty good as a lead) or metagross. Sometimes Heatran.

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    Ambipom, anyone? Fast Baton Passer, more durable than Ninjask, and Technician. Half of the time, it's my lead.
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    Leads, really, are not meant to lead all of the time, just whenever they can. I've heard of people changing leads when they see the opponent's team, for example leading with a Conkeldurr when u expect TTar.
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    People still obviously use Pokemon that set up, but I don't really think anyone uses specific 'leads' anymore. You normally want to try predicting what your opponent is sending out so that you can send out something which can force your opponent to switch out. ^^


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    On my Sandstorm team, I usually run Tyranitar or Hippowdon. Mixed Tyranitar helps take down threats and is really bulky, as well as setting up sandstorm. Otherwose I run Hippowdon who starts sandstorm, throws up rocks (just realized how weird that sounds), and starts Toxic stalling.
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    For my OU, I used SR and Spikers Ferrothorn.. The entry hazard plus Leech Seed is beast
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    Persian with fake out and u-turn with technician still seems viable.

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    Leads like Tornadus still make a good first impression!
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