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    Default What IF Pokemon Special (Adventures) was made into an Anime?

    As the title implies, I'd like to know what you think what would happen if Hidenori Kusaka's Pokemon Manga was adapted into an Animated TV Series if the actual Anime was never thought of.

    Here are some questions to think about:

    1. Would the story in the Anime be different than in the Manga? The exact same? Or the same with a few fillers and extra stories?

    2. Who would voice the characters in the Japanese and/or English versions?

    3. Who would handle the dub and how would it be handled for US distribution?

    4. How would the Animation and Character Designs be? Good? Bad? Average?

    So go wild! Just remember that this is a "What If" topic so keep that in mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt0044 View Post
    1. Would the story in the Anime be different than in the Manga? The exact same? Or the same with a few fillers and extra stories?
    Well, it depends on when it would have been made. Had it been made when a good chunk of Pokemon Special was already out, my guess is it most likely would be the same for the most part, with just a few fillers and extra stories here and there. (since you very rarely get an anime adaptation of a manga without a few differences and filler/extra stories) If it was made when the manga was first starting out though, then it would have probably been based on the manga, but loosely. (kind of like Sailor Moon. If you've read the manga and then watch the anime you can tell that the anime is still based on it, just loosely. *since a lot of things are different between the two canons*)

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    2. Who would voice the characters in the Japanese and/or English versions?
    Hmm, I dunno. I'll have to come back to this sometime.

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    3. Who would handle the dub and how would it be handled for US distribution?
    Well, if we got a Pokemon Special anime instead of the Pokemon anime we have, my guess is it would be the exact same situation. (at least most likely) 4Kids would handle the dub and US distribution like they did with the anime we have now, and then later the other company that dubs Pokemon now would do it. (the name of the company escapes me at the moment) I don't really think the situation would be that different, but who knows?

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    4. How would the Animation and Character Designs be? Good? Bad? Average?
    Depends on the studio that makes it. I would guess that the animation and character designs would be good or at least average. It's pretty rare that you see an anime that has really bad animation and character designs, especially when it's already based off of something (like a manga) as source material.
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    If the anime followed the story of Pokémon Adventures, it'd be SOOO much better.

    -No more incompetent idiots as main characters.
    -No more annoying female characters, but the badassery of the Adventures female characters instead (Krystaaaaal!)
    -It would be both hilarious and interesting.
    -The art style of the Adventures manga is really cool and I reckon it'd make for a great style for an anime too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FiremanLV5 View Post
    If the anime followed the story of Pokémon Adventures, it'd be SOOO much better.

    -No more incompetent idiots as main characters.
    -No more annoying female characters, but the badassery of the Adventures female characters instead (Krystaaaaal!)
    -It would be both hilarious and interesting.
    -The art style of the Adventures manga is really cool and I reckon it'd make for a great style for an anime too.
    Everything said above in this comment.
    "But sometimes I have to ask myself this question. It's true that to us his imaginings are nothing but the inventions of a busy mind. But to him, there simply is no other reality. Furthermore he is happy there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FiremanLV5 View Post
    -No more incompetent idiots as main characters.
    Except that's the charm of Dia and Pearl.

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    -No more annoying female characters, but the badassery of the Adventures female characters instead (Krystaaaaal!
    That's just opinion. I personally found Crystal incredibly frustrating and almost mary sueesque in her "I'm the perfect Pokemon trainer" presentation. Not to mention she was a distraction to the plot-line that we'd been reading for ages, becoming a plug-in "WAIT! A new game just came out! Forget Silver and Gold, check out the new playable female!", which instantly made her a lot less appealing. And I personally like Dawn and Misty very much, far more then ANY of the Pokemon Special girls.

    Quote Originally Posted by FiremanLV5 View Post
    -The art style of the Adventures manga is really cool and I reckon it'd make for a great style for an anime too.
    The Post-Johto Pokemon Adventure artwork is nice, so I'll give you that one, although I really hated Pre-Hoenn's lazy art that shifted into super deformed every now and then.

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    IT wouldn't be childish and would actually get more viewers...
    Doubtful. Pokemon has been around for years, changing the formula would have lots of controversy, not to mention making a child's program "less childish" is a very BAD marketing idea.

    Why does this thread not just get merged with the other "Special as an anime" thread anyway? Seems kinda pointless to have both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by E-Hero Winged Kuriboh View Post
    Doubtful. Pokemon has been around for years, changing the formula would have lots of controversy, not to mention making a child's program "less childish" is a very BAD marketing idea.
    You do realize this thread is discussing what if Pokemon Special had become the Pokemon anime instead of the one we have now, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by E-Hero Winged Kuriboh View Post
    Why does this thread not just get merged with the other "Special as an anime" thread anyway? Seems kinda pointless to have both.
    Probably because this one is discussing what would have happened had we got a Special anime instead of the one we had now, not why we don't have a Special anime. (which is what the other thread is about)
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1dbad View Post
    You do realize the thread is discussing what if Pokemon Special had become the Pokemon anime instead of the one we have now, right?
    Uh... Yes? Not really getting what you're trying to say here, as what I said is still relevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E-Hero Winged Kuriboh View Post
    Uh... Yes? Not really getting what you're trying to say here, as what I said is still relevant.
    You're correct that most of what you said is relevant, but one thing in particular was not. This reply right here:
    Quote Originally Posted by E-Hero Winged Kuriboh View Post
    Doubtful. Pokemon has been around for years, changing the formula would have lots of controversy, not to mention making a child's program "less childish" is a very BAD marketing idea.
    The reason it's not relevant is because your reply is talking about why it wouldn't be a good idea to replace the current anime with a Special one. This thread (and the person's post you were replying to) are talking about what if the current anime never existed and we got a Special anime instead, which means your reply isn't really relevant for this thread. For example, your points about Pokemon being around for years, that changing the formula would have lots of controversy and that making a child's program less childish isn't a good idea don't work in this context. (since if we got a Pokemon Special anime instead of the one we have now, we would have (most likely) got it when Pokemon was first starting out, it wouldn't be changing the formula of anything but inventing it, and it wouldn't be changing an existing program's (or series) format so it wouldn't be a problem.) Not to mention, you need to remember that Pokemon Special is still for kids both in the US and Japan, so even if it was made into an anime it wouldn't be "less childish" enough to have problems, especially since anything too bad would be changed while making the anime in Japan and since the dub would edit anything else that's "bad" for American children out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FiremanLV5 View Post
    If the anime followed the story of Pokémon Adventures, it'd be SOOO much better.

    -No more incompetent idiots as main characters.
    -No more annoying female characters, but the badassery of the Adventures female characters instead (Krystaaaaal!)
    -It would be both hilarious and interesting.
    -The art style of the Adventures manga is really cool and I reckon it'd make for a great style for an anime too.
    You don't know how much that made me laugh. PUAHAHAHAHAHAHA Well, I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FiremanLV5 View Post
    -The art style of the Adventures manga is really cool and I reckon it'd make for a great style for an anime too.
    The art style changed between artists who've worked on this manga over this manga series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex Kamex View Post
    The art style changed between artists who've worked on this manga over this manga series.
    I did noticed some changed between the way satoshi has drawn Ruby and Sapphire from the beginning of their arc till the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FiremanLV5 View Post
    If the anime followed the story of Pokémon Adventures, it'd be SOOO much better.

    -No more incompetent idiots as main characters.
    -No more annoying female characters, but the badassery of the Adventures female characters instead (Krystaaaaal!)
    -It would be both hilarious and interesting.
    -The art style of the Adventures manga is really cool and I reckon it'd make for a great style for an anime too.
    this, but keep the current Team Rocket trio, and Brock

    and NO American translations, just Japanese voices and English subtitles. I lost faith with American Translations many years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arbiter7x View Post
    and NO American translations, just Japanese voices and English subtitles. I lost faith with American Translations many years ago.
    Really? What about Anime dubbing companies like ADV and FUNimation? They may not be the greatest but they're certainly no 4kids.

    Also, some people don't like reading subtitles. Not that they're blind or illiterate but they prefer to sit and relax when watching Anime without having to read all the time. Hence, why there are English dubs. Not to mention that though things can get lost in translation, you must remember that English and Japanese are two very different languages.

    Besides, I doubt kids in the US would like reading subtitles. Maybe for the games but not for the TV show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolipiece View Post
    Part Two! I can't believe it took me two hours to write this....

    Left is the Japanese titles, right is the corresponding round.

        Spoiler:- Yellow Chapter:
    :P Saw this one coming. I can imagine at the very end, Yellow befriending a bunch of Pokemon in the opening, while looking at the horizon, cutting to a shot of her senpai, Professor Ookido, Masaki, Nanami, the Pokemon fanclub president, etc. with Red being the very last person seen.

    ...the epic appearance of the Shitennou in an opening which I don't recall ever happening in the actual anime.

    Quote Originally Posted by matt0044 View Post
    Really? What about Anime dubbing companies like ADV and FUNimation?
    Yeah, that would have been swell.

    Besides, I doubt kids in the US would like reading subtitles.
    Probably not for the whole show, but I remember it being one of the charms of that giant Pokemon episode back in the original anime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Satoshi View Post
    Probably not for the whole show, but I remember it being one of the charms of that giant Pokemon episode back in the original anime.
    Yes, maybe for the Pokemon speaking but I don't think kids would find the appeal in human characters speaking in a foreign language with English text translations. They watch TV so they don't have to read.

    Speaking of dubs, how would the Pokemon Special Anime dub be handled in the US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FiremanLV5 View Post
    If the anime followed the story of Pokémon Adventures, it'd be SOOO much better.

    -No more incompetent idiots as main characters.
    -No more annoying female characters, but the badassery of the Adventures female characters instead (Krystaaaaal!)
    -It would be both hilarious and interesting.
    -The art style of the Adventures manga is really cool and I reckon it'd make for a great style for an anime too.
    That's my answer to the question.

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    IT wouldn't be childish and would actually get more viewers... but to do this viz and 4kids... Gatta go! seriously... Give it to someone else... Idc who just not some "Oh the word kill is there... lets totally change the convo" kind of people
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    Quote Originally Posted by Satori View Post
    but to do this viz and 4kids... Gatta go! seriously... Give it to someone else... Idc who just not some "Oh the word kill is there... lets totally change the convo" kind of people
    Actually 4Kids no longer owns or dubs the Pokemon anime. And as for a good company to have it, FUNimation would be great.
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    Here's another thing to think about: Would the reception and reputation for Pokemon overall among the general audience in the US and other countries outside Japan be different?

    People base their opinion on Pokemon mostly on the Anime so if the Anime was adapted from the Manga, then what?

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    ^ We'd get less fans that are uptight with the anime keeping up with a certain formula, at least. Or complaints about the lack of levels, TMs, and other game-related stuff. owo

    I'm kind of mixed on this regarding characters. While I like most of the Special characters more than the anime's counterparts, I like some anime characters more than their manga versions. Myuutwo and Natane are two examples. Myuutwo's a funny case here. If the Myuutwo in the anime never existed, the Myuutwo in Special would probably never have become the badass that it was in the FRLG saga, since it's personality change was heavily based on the one that appeared in the Japanese version of the first movie. Both Myuutwo's have nice background stories, but the one in the anime was more tragic, in my opinion. Natane is eccentric in both the anime and Special, but she's much crazier in the anime... I liked it.

    If the Special manga was adapted into an anime and the current anime never existed, the manga would be slightly different since some anime influences would no longer exist. Yellow's character might have not existed, since the Special Pikachu Edition of the Gen I games wouldn't have existed without the anime. Also, gasp, Game!Red's Pikachu in the GSC games might have not existed either, if you think about it. Going back in time to change one part of the franchise brings about a lot of changes to the other parts of the franchise as it is now... interesting. God damned butterfly effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Satoshi View Post
    ^ We'd get less fans that are uptight with the anime keeping up with a certain formula, at least. Or complaints about the lack of levels, TMs, and other game-related stuff. owo

    If the Special manga was adapted into an anime and the current anime never existed, the manga would be slightly different since some anime influences would no longer exist. Yellow's character might have not existed, since the Special Pikachu Edition of the Gen I games wouldn't have existed without the anime. Also, gasp, Game!Red's Pikachu in the GSC games might have not existed either, if you think about it. Going back in time to change one part of the franchise brings about a lot of changes to the franchise as it is now... interesting. God damned butterfly effect.
    Personally, the lack of levels, TMs, HMs and item you can use during battle would be for the best.

    Also, your second paragraph makes a good point. Though we wouldn't care about Yellow if she didn't exist.

    As for Mewtwo, I'm sure Kusaka would've thought of something in the FRLG saga.

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    Isn't this topic almost the same as the many pokespecial in anime form topic?

    Well anyway I wouldn't know how it would become I guess some fillers even thought it doesn't need any. Voices i don't know. About the anime in the U.S. well idk since with 4kids everything is bad dieing is bad they'll sencure Surge guns for sure like they do with Yu Gi Oh and some other anime. Dead will get sencured too. To say they'll sencure more than viz does with the manga. Not sure about the slap (glare) thing in GSC though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamingflower View Post
    Isn't this topic almost the same as the many pokespecial in anime form topic?
    Not really, we're just brainstorming as to what would happen IF the Manga was made into an Anime and took the place of the one we know all too well.

    We're not demanding that one should be made now but wondering what if one was made from the start.

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    I can imagine the most violent and risque stuff in Special would be edited in Japan.

    I also figured that in the Japanese version, Red would be voiced by Ash's Japanese voice actor, Green would be voiced by Gary's Japanese voice actor, Sapphire by May's, Platinum by Dawn's, and Crys by Marina's. Someone on Youtube suggested Naruto's Japanese voice for Gold, and I actually think that works better than Jimmy's Japanese voice actor.

    Note: Just because, for example, Sapphire and May would have the same voice actor in Japan, that doesn't mean they have to sound the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex Kamex View Post
    I can imagine the most violent and risque stuff in Special would be edited in Japan.

    I also figured that in the Japanese version, Red would be voiced by Ash's Japanese voice actor, Green would be voiced by Gary's Japanese voice actor, Sapphire by May's, Platinum by Dawn's, and Crys by Marina's. Someone on Youtube suggested Naruto's Japanese voice for Gold, and I actually think that works better than Jimmy's Japanese voice actor.

    Note: Just because, for example, Sapphire and May would have the same voice actor in Japan, that doesn't mean they have to sound the same.

    ... Now where's that Special anime episode list that I made up?
    That can be true but why would they have the same voice actors they may look the same but they aren't the same person. So it wouln't be that bad if they have different voice actors.

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