As much as I love to see the Saints vs. Giants in primetime, I doubt it will happen. Even down the road, the appeal of Stafford to Megatron up against the Aaron Rodgers and the Packers seems way too sexy to pass up. If the Lions are as bad as you say they are, and the Saints actually having something to play for, like a playoff spot, I can see it happening. But if neither of those is true, then I think they keep it the same. Keep in mind, when they flexed the schedule last year, it was because the Colts were dead in the water and had virtually no hope of anything other than the first pick of the draft. Not to mention, they weren't exactly exciting to watch. Even with big names like Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, and Pierre Garcon, they still were anemic offensively. At least with the Lions offense you have something exciting to watch, even if they aren't playoff bound.
What strikes me is that the Saints vs Giants game wasn't given a Monday Night slot, since they usually get one as of late when they play. They really like to hype it up whenever one of the Mannings plays the Saints with the whole "Hometown Game". The schedules were made before the whole "Bounty" thing broke out, so its not like they changed it because of that. I guess it just isn't as as exciting and "sexy" as it used to be, with the Saints owning the Giants every time they play them in the Sean Payton era. 49-28 didn't look to good on them last year and I think the times before that it was somewhere in that area too. My guess is the national media would be none too happy about the possibility of the Saints blowing the doors off of them again.
The Lions offense this year is not the Lions offense last year. Everyone's figured them out, and they either won't or can't adjust, and as a result, their offense is pretty anemic this year. I don't care that the stats show their offense is, what? 2nd in the NFL in total yards? That's a complete fluke, trust me. Honestly, it's at the point where after this year, most people probably won't give a crap about Staff to Megatron. I already know one fan who's calling Staff a bust, and it won't be long until fans are calling for the Lions to tank for Geno or Barkley or whoever the "hot" QB of the year is (which they shouldn't).
That said, I don't think the Lions are as bad as I'm making them out to be, but they're still pretty awful.
That's true about the national media, though. They certainly don't want to see their precious Giants lose. But considering the current circumstances, I don't see why they shouldn't move it up.
That is true. These aren't the Lions of last year. And now that I think about it, Megatron is basically the big name on offense, and that does not make exciting football. The appeal of the Packers, Saints, and Patriots is that they all have those explosive weapons on offense that can really break a game open and its not just the QB throwing it up to one guy who 95% of the time is going to catch whatever is thrown to them. Nationally televised games love to see all those big names on the big stage.
I guess if the Lions do really bad at that point, to where not even a game played for pride is fun to watch, they'll make a push to give the Saints vs Gaints their slot. But I still see the Saints blowing their doors off like they usually do. Despite those big names on defense, and it is a formidable one, I can't see them slowing down the Saints offense enough to win.
And their is another game that just came to mind for me, Saints vs 49ers. That game could just as easily be flexed too. Way too many storylines in that matchup for the media to pass up. But I guess it depends on who is playing the primetime slot that week as well.
Until this last game against the Vikings, I thought their offense was starting to become more multidimensional. With Nate Burleson down, Titus Young and Ryan Broyles were picking up the slack. Pettigrew was playing better, as were Leshoure and Joique Bell, although the Lions will never have a good running game without drafting an elite RB that isn't so concussion-prone.
But I was wrong. Titus Young should probably go, because he's too immature. Nate Burleson's getting old. Pettigrew was a mirage, and Tony Scheffler should be played more, if only so we can see more stuff like this. And... well, it's the same old story with the running game. Sheesh, maybe they do need to draft another WR in the first round and cut Titus Young or something. I don't know.
I guess we'll see what happens when the time comes. I know I'd rather watch a good, competitive game between the Saints and Giants than watch the Packers blow the Lions out in freezing cold Wisconsin.
Where has GiantsFan been lately? He couldn't shut up while the Giants were winning.
Oh. Banned. LOL.
Anyway, I've noticed a trend in this year's primetime games.
Either the Steelers, Broncos, Cowboys, or Falcons are always playing, and the games are usually crappy (with some exceptions like Broncos-Falcons, Steelers-Broncos, Broncos-Chargers), like last night's game and probably tonight's game.
There's a limit to how many primetime games a team can have a year (up to 5 if I recall)
The Cowboys will always have the maximum amount of primetime games because everyone like to see the Cowboys win or lose, they always fetch high ratings.
The Steelers have gotten them recently because they have been good.
The Broncos have been fetching attention lately because of the Payton Manning business.
Falcons have been good lately so they get prime time games.
You can always count on two teams to always have primetime spots no matter how good or bad they are: The Dallas Cowboys and most of the time the Pittsburgh Steelers. These are the two most followed franchises in the league by far.
And I live in Texas and oh my god i am not hearing the end of this from the aggies
you guys do not realize that the most ARROGANT fanbase in the world resides in texas a&m university. My god. this is like the first positive thing they've done in literal DECADES and they won't shut the heck up about it
(if you can't tell I bleed Burnt Orange )
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Originally Posted by SkyeAce
I just want to have fun, I need them to understand that my dog and my horse will always be my top priorities and they will come after
You can always count on two teams to always have primetime spots no matter how good or bad they are: The Dallas Cowboys and most of the time the Pittsburgh Steelers. These are the two most followed franchises in the league by far.
Really? I knew about the Cowboys, but I thought the Patriots and Pack were followed far more than the Steelers.
Really? I knew about the Cowboys, but I thought the Patriots and Pack were followed far more than the Steelers.
Look into the NFL's History
The Steelers have been a far more successful team than the Packers and the Patriots.
They have a more widely distributed fanbase than either of those franchises because of that success. Really outside of the '00's, the Patriots have had like, 5 good years (2 superbowl bids and in those they got whoooommmmmpppppped by the Bears in '85 and by the Packers ((hehe coincidentally)) sometime in the late '90s)
It really goes by who's been winning recently but there's always two teams that they follow constantly and that's the Cowboys and Steelers.
Originally Posted by SkyeAce
I just want to have fun, I need them to understand that my dog and my horse will always be my top priorities and they will come after
The Falcons usually get primetime games because of who they are playing, sometimes not how well they are doing. Most of their primetime games are either against the Saints or Eagles, the Saints because of how good they have been, and the Eagles because of Micheal Vick and the storylines that brings. Even this year, they got the night game against the Cowboys, because its the Cowboys, and the national media can't get enough of them, even if everyone hates them of if they are playing bad.
But its true. If any two teams are guaranteed a night game every year, its the Cowboys and Steelers.
Although for Denver, I accredit it to Tebow last year. The talk he generated last year was unreal, even to the point where networks were fighting to see which one would televise any game he would be playing in. They gave Denver their night games in the hopes that Tebow would still be playing for Denver next year, but little did they know that Manning would make a push to play there. So in the end, it worked out for them, since they got something better out of it. But I doubt that Manning playing in Denver is the reason they got primetime games.
Look into the NFL's History
The Steelers have been a far more successful team than the Packers and the Patriots.
They have a more widely distributed fanbase than either of those franchises because of that success. Really outside of the '00's, the Patriots have had like, 5 good years (2 superbowl bids and in those they got whoooommmmmpppppped by the Bears in '85 and by the Packers ((hehe coincidentally)) sometime in the late '90s)
It really goes by who's been winning recently but there's always two teams that they follow constantly and that's the Cowboys and Steelers.
Alright, I didn't know that. I'm a newer fan to the sport in general, hence overreactions and some of the crazy things I say. xD Thanks.
Alright, I didn't know that. I'm a newer fan to the sport in general, hence overreactions and some of the crazy things I say. xD Thanks.
It's no problem haha I like explaining things about football
I love this sport haha. I probably know too much about the history of the NFL as well. I should study more school related topics instead of memorizing the Superbowl match-ups by year :P
And just for reference, since I do live in Texas, I go for the Dallas Cowboys and the Texas Longhorns. I'm not an arrogant fan but I'll defend my teams. I'm not going to be a dick about them like Giantsfan is :P
Originally Posted by SkyeAce
I just want to have fun, I need them to understand that my dog and my horse will always be my top priorities and they will come after
Nah. I got into sports in general about a year or two ago, because I was going through a stressful, depressing time, and watching the Red Wings and Tigers was an escape for me, whether they won or lost. I seriously wish I could go back to feeling that way. xD
Obviously, I'm for the Lions and U-M, but I will watch MSU, too. I'm not one of those diehard U-M fans that hates MSU, though I don't particularly like them, either.
And I'm considering supporting an AFC team, too, because the Lions are one of the most frustrating teams to watch in the NFL. Just wait until the Thanksgiving game, when they get spanked by the Texans. You'll see what I have to put up with every week.
Look into the NFL's History
The Steelers have been a far more successful team than the Packers and the Patriots.
They have a more widely distributed fanbase than either of those franchises because of that success. Really outside of the '00's, the Patriots have had like, 5 good years (2 superbowl bids and in those they got whoooommmmmpppppped by the Bears in '85 and by the Packers ((hehe coincidentally)) sometime in the late '90s)
It really goes by who's been winning recently but there's always two teams that they follow constantly and that's the Cowboys and Steelers.
Except not only are the Packers the most successful franchise in NFL history (14 championships 4 superbowls) they are the most popular too.
They beat both the Boys and the steelers by a wide margin. All of middle america loves them Wisconsin Nebraska Iowa Indiana Kentucky. They also have the most widespread fanbase. The packers are the most popular time by a LONG shot.
Steelers remain the luckiest team (and the most favored by the officials) in history. But who cares? They've struggled against Oakland, Tennessee, and KC. That proves to me that when they do make the playoffs in a weak AFC, they'll get steamrolled by a better team.
Meanwhile, Seattle beat the Jets pretty handily, and are at Miami next week. Seattle AT anybody is scary, Miami really pooped the bed against Tennessee, so we might be able to eke that out (then again, we lost to Arizona, St. Louis, and Detroit on the road, so I shouldn't feel confident against ANYONE).
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Where has GiantsFan been lately? He couldn't shut up while the Giants were winning.
Oh. Banned. LOL.
I was wondering that too. I figured it was just the Giants play recently, but I can't say I'm surprised he's banned.
Originally Posted by deathseer
Either that or the "Flex Rule" comes into play where they change the time of the game so that something more interesting one can be shown.
Can a Monday night game be 'flexed'? I assumed it could, but they didn't move the Chiefs-Steelers game, so I'm wondering (even though that somehow turned out to be a good game).
Originally Posted by FullMetalAlchemist
It's gonna be the same tonight. The Steelers are so confident they will win, but they will underestimate the Chiefs.
That was the only way I gave them a chance. Like when they played the Saints, surely they'd have no chance of winning, then somehow made it a good game.
Originally Posted by sAv1Or)
I seriously don't know how the Steelers pulled that off. I blame Matt Cassel. He's an awful QB.
I thought it seemed only appropriate for the game to (basically) end on a turnover. And I'm not completely against Cassel- I'd say he's just average. I'm sure the coaching situation while he's been here hasn't helped anything.
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Posting predictions, minus the Lions-Packers. I'm calling it here and now: the Lions will lose ALL of their remaining games (yes, including the Cardinals) to finish 4-12. Maybe this is more something I want, so they can get someone like Manti Te'o and fire Jim Schwartz, but whatever. That's my prediction, and I'm sticking with it:
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Dolphins vs. Bills - Because Bills. Why is this on primetime?
Cardinals vs. Falcons - Falcons may not be perfect anymore, but they're still good
Browns vs. Cowboys - Because Browns, and because the Cowboys aren't that bad. Bengals vs. Chiefs - Does this even need a reason?
Jets vs. Rams - Start Tebow, and maybe the Jets will win? idk
Eagles vs. Redskins - I don't know. This one could go either way. Buccaneers vs. Panthers - Bucs are rolling.
Jaguars vs. Texans - The Jaguars are the equivalent of Illinois in the B1G. The Texans happen to be the next of the "who gets to beat up on the Jaguars?" teams. Saints vs. Raiders - Saints are also rolling, but this one can go either way.
Chargers vs. Broncos - The Chargers won't be able to do much to that defense. Colts vs. Patriots - No reason. This is my upset of the week.
Ravens vs. Steelers - The Steelers will win that division, and the Ravens offense won't do much to the best defense in football.
Bears vs. 49ers - Please?
I don't think Monday Night games can be flexed. By that point, I think all other scheduled games will have been played, so no one else can be moved to that slot.
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