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    Yeah. But it does say that the ruling was changed, so maybe it was changed after those tournaments and they never thought of changing its limit, which would explain why it isn't banned.

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    I'm almost 100% positive it hasn't changed. It would be huge news. The only reason, looking at your link, is you're reading it wrong. They don't have it written in the TCG section because it's already written in the OCG section. The one ruling in the TCG section is there because it's different than the OCG ruling. But I do see at the bottom the changed thing...

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    Exactly. But maybe I am wrong.

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    Besides that one page you showed, I can't find anywhere else on the internet that says it doesn't destroy itself, so I'm thinking it was a mistake...

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    Yeah, more than likely. Thank god.

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    It is just Wiki, so anyone can screw around with it...we don't need another Judgment Dragon...
    But Red Dragon Archfiend still doesn't destroy itself with it's own effect like you said.

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    Umm, did you look at Red Dragon Archfiend's effect? Its cheap because if you try running a wall deck and have a lot of defence position monsters, he only has to destroy one to wipe out your field.

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    Yeah but thankfully Wall decks are not common at all. For the most part you won't have a lot of defense mode monsters. And his other effect sort of balances him out.

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    Yeah it does. Unless all of the other monsters attack.

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    wow, i haven't been active for like 4 pages XD lol

    hmm, i'm thinking of buying some structure/tins etc for some dragon cards, anyone give advice, i've only got old dragons in my deck.

    Also, has anyone got assault mode monsters? I've got like, 7 magic and traps and i haven't got any monsters.
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    get red nova dragon tin, and if u got a synchro tuner aka foruma sychron get shooting star

    both come with the require card red nova best tine cause of this
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    Sneak Preview Promo for Generation Force:
    Xyz Veil - Continuous Trap
    Face up Xyz monsters with Xyz material cannot be targeted by card effects.

    It's an interesting card for Xyz monsters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darklord18 View Post
    get red nova dragon tin, and if u got a synchro tuner aka foruma sychron get shooting star

    both come with the require card red nova best tine cause of this
    cheers, where would you recommend buying online? =3
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    You know, if the change XYZ to exceed, then I might use them because they look cool. But if they stick with XYZ then it is just too stupid, I couldn't stand them.

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    Why does the name affect how good they are?
    Aren't you the one who hates Synchros? Exceeds/XYZ are the EXACT same thing, almost exactly...

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    Not really, except they're also monsters and go in the extra deck. And it doesn't change their usefulness, but XYZ is a really stupid name, Exceed sounds kind of cool though.

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    They are both PRONOUNCED the same way.
    And how aren't they exactly like Synchros? They have ALL the same rules except you don't need a Tuner...

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    Really? I didn't know that. In that case, it's fine. That sounds a bit sarcastic, but it really isn't.

    Lesse here with the differences:

    Synchros
    Need a tuner.
    Require sacrifices who's levels have to add up to the Synchro's.
    May be an effect monster, or may not be.
    Has levels.
    Can require certain monsters to summon.
    Can be used to summon other Synchro monsters or to summon XYZ monsters.



    XYZ
    Don't need Tuners.
    Require component (not sure on the official name) monsters that have to both be a certain level that are placed under it to activate effects.
    Are always effect monsters.
    Has ranks, not levels; unaffected by anything related to levels.
    Monsters used to summon it only need to be a certain level.
    Cannot be used to summon Synchro or XYZ monsters.

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    Exceeds also have to add up to the level (sort of)

    Exceeds also don't always have effects (see Gem knight)

    Exceeds WILL eventually need certain monsters to summon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crawley007 View Post
    Exceeds also have to add up to the level (sort of) No they don't, they have to be a certain level, but there is no adding up.

    Exceeds also don't always have effects (see Gem knight) Gem Knights? I've heard of them from Deokishisu.123, but I don't really know much about them and didn't check that, so that is one for you.

    Exceeds WILL eventually need certain monsters to summon You have no way of proving that, but even if they did (which is kinda unlikely with how they work), Synchro monsters are still more similar to Fusions than XYZ in my opinion.
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    EXACTLY, which in a way is the same as Synchro. There's still a limitation.

    Yeah, look up Gem Knight Pearl.

    And no proof, but anyone who knows anything about yugioh's past would agree. Synchros started out the same way, no certain monsters. I'll bet you my life Exceeds will turn the same. There will never, in the history of yugioh, be a type of summoning that doesn't turn into having specifics.

    They already have specifics that go as far as saying you must have 2 waters to exceed.
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    Really, Synchros are more like Ritual monsters than XYZ when it comes to the whole level thing.

    Okay then, you get that one.

    What are you talking about? One of the first Synchros was Junk Warrior and he needed a certain tuner, so there is a chance that XYZ monsters won't change.

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    Yes, but a majority of synchros need nothing in particular, while most others only need rather a certain attribute or type. There are very few like Junk Warrior that need a certain monster name.

    And as I said, exceeds ALREADY are headed down that road.

    Black ray Lancer for example already needs 2 WATER monsters.
    Next they'll need two SPELLCASTER or WARRIOR, whether they actually go into specific names or not.

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    Okay, I concede your point that XYZs are exactly the same as Synchros without the tuners. So, topic change! Anyone miss rituals? I mean, there hasn't been a new one in a few years now, I don't think.

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    Gishkis. A whole new type that is all pretty much Ritual related, just recently came around. Albeit they're terrible.

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