31st May 2011, 4:10 AM
Anyone here actually competitively compete?
Oh and also, does anyone use KCVD?
I used to buy not so much now.
KCVD (Kaiba Corp Virtual Dueling),
Lets you build decks and duel online.
They are currently accepting accounts so,
Last edited by quilt; 31st May 2011 at 4:32 AM.
31st May 2011, 4:36 AM
No, not unless the card specifically says they are destroyed when they have no material (and some do) but not all. But all of them usually have some kind of negative effect.
Originally Posted by Eeveelover824
And I play competitively but I hate KCVDS. It isn't automatic like the video games, you have to everything yourself.
31st May 2011, 4:49 AM
Well you can't really expect it to be automatic,
but if you do, oh well.
What deck do you use for competitive?
31st May 2011, 5:08 AM
Yeah being free and all. There is an automatic one but it costs money, I tried it but it ended up being too much money. I only use the DS games now for any kind of testing.
Originally Posted by quilt
I only have and use two decks right now. Gravekeepers and Scraps.
31st May 2011, 5:20 AM
Can I ask you how are Gravekeepers that competitive?
I haven't dueled a proper one yet.
But I look at the cards and try to find a competitive structure but it's just beyond me.
Is it just they have exception flow?
31st May 2011, 5:26 AM
Yeah GK's are like in the top 3 best decks out there.
They're main cards that make them that are...
Necrovalley - Any deck they go against that uses their graveyard is screwed, there is pretty much no way to win (like plants/zombies)
Royal Tribute - If you draw this first turn, your opponent loses all monsters in their hand, and on the first turn, that is big trouble. Often GK win in the first few turns when that happens.
Gravekeeper's Recruiter - Gives you constant advantage, since whenever it leaves you field you get another, works well with Descendant, the one that can tribute a GK to destroy a card on the field. And Spy of course, is their stall (2500 DEF) and searcher.
They're a strange top deck because most good decks are very fast. Gk are quite slow. But they're pretty much Anti Meta, meaning the best decks out there are weak to them. That's the main reason they're so good.
31st May 2011, 5:30 AM
Yeah, so it has pretty much the same approach as a DD, Nerf the opponent whilst still using it's own effects.
It always struck me as weird how they were up there, but I guess it makes sense.
31st May 2011, 5:35 AM
Yeah. I by far win more with GK. But I just like Scraps too. They're competitive as well, just not top. Rarely get top ten even.
Gravekeeper's are really cheap to make too. You can make a semi-competitive GK deck jsut by buying 3 of the Marik Structure Deck.
They're getting a new Draw card soon. Wonder Wand. Which is good because it's the only thing they really didn't have was draw power.
What do you use the most?
31st May 2011, 5:39 AM
Yeah I've got 2 Mariks as is, which I've put together.
I use Crystal Beast though.
31st May 2011, 5:46 AM
I never liked Crystal Beasts much, my cousin does though.
Someone was saying that they might get competitive when the Exceeds come out. Not sure why, but maybe they will.
31st May 2011, 5:58 AM
I don't see how that'll work at all.
If you use a CB deck right it can be real competitive.
Crystal Abundance makes sure of that.
Not to mention it's power house ATK, Like Hamon, Malefic rainbow drag, and well Rainbow Dragon.
It also somewhat voids GK due to no need of the graveyard.
31st May 2011, 6:05 AM
Someone said most CB are the same level? Not sure if that's true or not. If it is, then yes Exceeds will work very well.
Any deck can win one duel though, you have to win many in a row to get to being close to top competitive. And so far no CB deck has made it up there in years. Doesn't maen they aren't good like you said, just means there are too many decks better than them. Look at Lightsworn, that's what happened to them as of late.
Nothing is going to beat the Six Samurai right now for being top deck for a while. I feel so proud whenever I manage to even come close to beating one, that's how good they are :P
31st May 2011, 6:08 AM
I've actually beaten a few Six sam decks in succession but I pay that off to Good luck.
But yeah most are around 4, if not then 3 and 2.
So I see how that could work,
I wouldn't be keen on using them to be honest.
31st May 2011, 6:13 AM
I've only done that when I get lucky and draw Warnings. So I give my wins to luck too.
Wait...I think I get why they'd be good. You should be able to use the CB in the Spell/Trap for Exceed too couldn't you? If so, that would probably be why.
31st May 2011, 6:15 AM
I don't think you would be able to,
once they hit the spell and trap, they become continuous spell cards.
Otherwise that would be pretty good.
31st May 2011, 6:26 AM
So you can't use those when Synchro summoning either right? I think you should be able to, even if you can't. Their names are still the same, even if they aren't in the monster zone. Maybe that would make them too good.
31st May 2011, 6:30 AM
Yeah probably overpower them heaps.
Syncho summon using PSzombie
then bring him back and do it again from spell & trap,
It would be way to over powered.
31st May 2011, 6:37 AM
Another good thing is Heavy Storm is banned. That really hurt the deck as well. But Heavy Storm might be back someday.
31st May 2011, 6:39 AM
I don't doubt it, Dark hole came back.
Giant trunade can still be a pain due to all the support needing at least 1 crystal beast in the spell & trap.
31st May 2011, 6:47 AM
And Monster Reborn. I've looked up a lot of the Banned cards and learned why some of them are banned, because I was always confused at some. Like how Monster Reborn is OK but Premature Burial isn't.
31st May 2011, 6:53 AM
Why is premature and not monster reborn?
31st May 2011, 6:55 AM
Because Premature Burial, people were using Giant Trunade or Brionac to use it over and over and over. Put it back in your hand and use it again. Can't do that with Monster Reborn because it doesn't stay on the field. And I guess Call Of The Haunted is okay because it's a trap so it's slower.
31st May 2011, 7:04 AM
Ah, true. I didn't think of that.
I just always saw it as worse off due to the cost and it only being your grave.
31st May 2011, 7:07 AM
The only card at all I disagree with on the entire list is Pot Of Greed.
I think it was okay having 1 in everyone's deck. I mean I see that it's really awesome, and can actually win games if you get the right two cards to draw, but I don't know...I didn't see anything wrong when I played the game when it was at 1.
31st May 2011, 7:10 AM
There were matters of chaining it to other cards to reap it's effect over and over.
Some Exodia decks out there are amazing.
I got OTK'd by one the other day.