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    You know, I definitely could see something like Misty being an elite four member. Prima does have a lot of water pokemon...But she's more of an Ice type specialist than a water specialist.

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    I totally think there should be another Whirl Cup...but how could Misty go to it? She can't leave the gym because her incompetent sisters would just give away free gym badges like what Volkner was doing. I think that's where someone like Prima should come in. Just like with the Viridian City Gym, she was taking over until the new leader would be chosen, or whatever. So Prima can cover the gym while Misty's gone, and Misty can travel. And I'm sure Prima being at the gym will attract a lot of challengers and attention~!

    Another thing which can be annoying is when people call any Misty fan who wants that she returns as main as some "crazy fool stuck in past".I wish people would begin to realize how there is nothing wrong if someone wants their favorite back.Many people want her back because she wasnt given proper closure with her story being left unfinished(like her goal of becoming water master) having potential to grow more.They also want her back because they liked her personality which was very vibrant and entertaining giving great dynamic to group.
    Because of being hotheaded and tomboyish but also having girly side to her this made perfect mix for Misty character becoming popular.
    Oh yeah, that's very common. I think for the most part, Misty's fans have calmed down with these things, but there isn't anything horribly wrong with that. Misty wasn't popular just because of the popular craze surrounding pokemon. As you said, people liked her personality, pokemon, humor, etc and all that she contributed to the show. It would be great if Misty could've been fleshed out more in her run because I feel as if she's the most undeveloped female character of the series.

    Oh about the Elite Four thing...For Misty, I think I could see that...It would show how far she's come as a water pokemon trainer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Champion Jared 14 View Post
    I totally think there should be another Whirl Cup...but how could Misty go to it? She can't leave the gym because her incompetent sisters would just give away free gym badges like what Volkner was doing. I think that's where someone like Prima should come in. Just like with the Viridian City Gym, she was taking over until the new leader would be chosen, or whatever. So Prima can cover the gym while Misty's gone, and Misty can travel. And I'm sure Prima being at the gym will attract a lot of challengers and attention~!
    Agreed and to be honest gym was never a problem to begin with.Its not like writers couldnt find some substitute to allow Misty to be free to leave.Aside from example you mentioned thy could always make one of sisters more responsible.Their care free attitude and incompetence were pretty much main reason Misty stayed at gym after she returned to it in first place.
    Violet and Lily are lost cause though but Daisy definitely could be a candidate.She was showed to spend most of time out of all three with Misty at gym showing interest in pokemon and battles.
    Or they could open new subplot by introducing unknown relatives in Misty story allowing for some quality character development.Similar to how they introduced Brock mother they could introduce Misty parents or some cousin taking over gym.

    Oh yeah, that's very common. I think for the most part, Misty's fans have calmed down with these things, but there isn't anything horribly wrong with that.
    Not so sure about that.I still see pretty active demand on petitions,youtube,sites like poke elite 2000 etc.On some sites like this one only reason you see complaints being toned don is because there isnt much discussion about misty going on considering for how long shes been gone with many of her fans i knew leaving this place.

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    the way they wrote Misty off was stupid...the whole sister being incompetent is just a bad excuse to remove her from the main cast...I mean weren't her sisters in charge of the gym when Misty was traveling with Ash?
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    Just like with the Viridian City Gym, she was taking over until the new leader would be chosen
    Lol, I think you mean Agatha from the Elite Four took over! But yeah, I get what you mean. It would be a nice idea for Prima to take over the Gym while Misty travels. And she could train with Misty, that would help her a lot!!
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    to be honest gym was never a problem to begin with
    Well, the Gym was having problems...Misty's sisters had been leaving the gym so often and for so long on their trips doing who knows what, to the point where the Pokemon League was almost going to shut the Gym down. Also, whenever her sisters were there, they didn't seem that enthusiastic to battle either, they just wanted to give away free badges. Hell, they didn't even know how to get more, or make them. Misty had to learn that! It was a good thing that Misty showed up when she did, or else there'd be no Cerulean Gym!
    thy could always make one of sisters more responsible.
    Lol, that probably won't happen. I suppose Daisy has some potential, but she lacks confidence. Violet and Lily are pretty much a waste anyways lol...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Upsidedown 403~ View Post
    Well, the Gym was having problems...Misty's sisters had been leaving the gym so often and for so long on their trips doing who knows what, to the point where the Pokemon League was almost going to shut the Gym down. Also, whenever her sisters were there, they didn't seem that enthusiastic to battle either, they just wanted to give away free badges. Hell, they didn't even know how to get more, or make them. Misty had to learn that! It was a good thing that Misty showed up when she did, or else there'd be no Cerulean Gym!
    True i find that being very significant in Misty character,She wanted to continue traveling but felt it was her responsibility to save gym from being closed down being willing to put her goals aside(on hold)to help her sisters out.Being unselfish is also one of good qualities Misty posses.

    Lol, that probably won't happen. I suppose Daisy has some potential, but she lacks confidence. Violet and Lily are pretty much a waste anyways lol...
    Basically what im trying to say is how gym wouldnt stop Misty to appear or return if writers wanted depending solely on them.
    If they ever decided to do that they would probably resolve problem with gym within one episode with some of those three taking it over(technically they are still gym leaders though passive ones).Daisy does lack confidence and is little bit carefree but with some minor development becoming little more reliant that could be fixed.

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    Well, I suppose they could make Daisy be a fill in......But I still think she'd need someone who's capable, confident, and has the skills to fill in when she's gone...Notice when her sisters were there, she could still leave the gym, but only for a period of time, but not too long...She'd have to come right back! Hmm...maybe Wallace could potentially fill in at Cerulean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedehydrator
    the way they wrote Misty off was stupid...the whole sister being incompetent is just a bad excuse to remove her from the main cast...I mean weren't her sisters in charge of the gym when Misty was traveling with Ash?
    They probably were, but they probably just, gave away gym badges...and only prepared the gym for synchronized swimming shows...lol

    Misty's sendoff was very emotional and touching, but very rushed...it was that way because essentially both her character and the viewers learned that she'd be leaving in the same episode...very bittersweet indeed....

    You know what, I totally didn't consider Wallace as an option either...
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    Hmm, yeah that interesting...I remember reading in a fanfic somewhere about Juan from the Sootopolis Gym teaching Misty's pokemon how to use water pulse.

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    Yeah, I feel like I've read something like that from somewhere!! Water Pulse would be a great move for Misty's pokemon...

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    Wait, doesn't Misty give away the TM for Water Pulse in FRLG??
    I wish her pokemon knew that attack...I remember how Misty used to give away the TM for Bubblebeam in the 1st Gen games...I wish more of her pokemon knew that move!

    I forgot what TM Misty gave in HGSS...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Upsidedown 403~ View Post
    Well, I suppose they could make Daisy be a fill in......But I still think she'd need someone who's capable, confident, and has the skills to fill in when she's gone...Notice when her sisters were there, she could still leave the gym, but only for a period of time, but not too long...She'd have to come right back! Hmm...maybe Wallace could potentially fill in at Cerulean?
    Yeah we also get to see that in Misty last cameo "Real Cleffa Hanger"being rushed by sisters to return back at gym with Misty being frustrated of their irresponsibility not having anyone to rely on.But i still think Daisy coukld with some practice become more responsible and competent in future becoming good enough to be decent substitute."Luvdisc is a many Splendored Thing"was good for a start showing Daisy of being capable to battle being interested in it.

    Speaking of Wallace only problem though is that he couldnt be long term solution.Having champions or E4 to take care of gym would be very unfair toward challengers not having chance to win over badge.We see Agatha temporarily taking care of Viridian gym but judging by her dialogue and how she commented for Ash something along the lines of finally having some challenge implies how no one managed to defeat her which isnt surprising.She is E4 after all.

    You know i always wandered what happened with Misty parents.We dont know if they are alive or dead nor if they played some influence on her character.Perhaps her love for water types comes from them.If anything i reckon they would be perfect substitute to take care of gym when Misty is absent.
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    One day of school, and I'm behind 3 pages, lol.

    Anyway:
    Quote Originally Posted by pokemon fan 132 View Post
    Do you think Misty should become E4 one day in future?
    I definitely think Misty should one day become an Elite Four member. Misty's been a gym leader for quite a while now, and must be getting very strong.

    I think it'd be cool if (providing someone filled in for her), Misty left the gym, and went on her own journey just to get stronger, and to travel again, with her goal to challenge and try to become an Elite Four. At least she'd be mobile again


    Quote Originally Posted by pokemon fan 132 View Post
    You know i always wandered what happened with Misty parents.We dont know if they are alive or dead nor if they played some influence on her character.Perhaps her love for water types comes from them.If anything i reckon they would be perfect substitute to take care of gym when Misty is absent.
    Yeah, I always wondered why the writers never created parents for Misty, especially considering they gave Brock parents. I also agree in that they could be perfect substitutes as gym leaders, unless Daisy, Lily and Violet get their incompatence from them :O

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    Hmm...I dunno...it's common in anime for then to not show father's but with Misty's parents aren't mentioned at all...Maybe they passed away when she was young in a accident or something...

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    I havent even thought about Misty's parents until just now.

    Maybe they could be introduced later on to take over the gym so that Misty can go travel again.
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    I don't know...I wish they'd tell more about Misty's backstory...

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    Something interesting I encountered...With the similarities between Iris and Misty, someone recently told me that even though BW hasn't reached its completion, that Iris feels like Misty "done right"....

    What does that mean? How do you feel about that??

    Iris is a gym leader (in the games) like Misty is...Iris' goal is to become a Dragon Master, and Misty's is to become a Dragon Master. Misty and Iris were both shown to have disputes with Ash. Iris doesn't seem to have a sidequest like Misty did. Iris seems to have a fear of Ice type pokemon, much like Misty's fear of Bug Types...Other than that, I can't think of any more similarities...

    But anyways, this person told me that they think "being done right" by fixing the flaws in past characters, while keeping the positives...How do you all feel about this??

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    Hate to split hairs but Misty's goal is water Pokemon master and not dragon but yes the similarity stands. I think this Iris being Misty "done right" thing makes no sense at all but rather trying to justify something else. Sounds like something the people who want Misty to be overshadowed would say and I have ran across one such person. It will never happen at all because of one thing. During Misty's time on the show it was more popular than it is now.
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    I mean, in many people's view, Misty's already been outshadowed by May and Dawn, so why the overkill with Iris? We know Misty didn't get a song dedicated to her (outside the dub) like an ending theme, or a pokedex, starter pokemon, re-curring rivals, lots of battles, etc...but is she really to blame for that? I mean, some people honestly beleive that Misty really didn't contribute anything to the pokemon series at all...

    I don't see why people have to take every opportunity they can to pick apart Misty's character, battling skills, etc...

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    Misty DID get an ending dedicated to her in Japanese which is by the way Rapurasu Ni Notte along with another song I can think of right now which was Minna De Arukou. As for not contributing anything that is bogus too they keep forgetting the Whirl Cup along with numerous other instances where the girl in question was a big hero such as Pokemon Shipwreck and the Stun Spore Detour.
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    Really?? Misty got an ending theme in the Japanese version? I'll have to look those up...Are they on Youtube?

    You know, sometimes I honestly think that people expect too much from Misty now that they have AG and DP, and now BW to use to compare to the OS with Misty...people picked Misty apart expecting her to have sidequest training and develoment like the coordinators, and battling more and having "Epic" matches like Ash did...Now that I think about it, Misty's character wasn't designed with those things in mind at all...But that doesn't mean that she didn't contribute anything....

    Mind you, Misty at least used her pokemon in and or battled in at least 1/3 of the Johto Saga's episodes while still making small yet worthwhile contributions to the show altogether...It's the little things that count...We know that Misty wasn't a co-star and considering the treatment she received from the writers, for a sidekick character and also considering that there was NO set formula to give the support characters development she didn't really have it so bad now that I think about it.
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    Rapurasu Ni Notte is in fact on Youtube but I can't link it here due to forum restrictions. And yes that is so true it is in fact the little things that count in this aspect something that people just seem to forget in their hatred.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Champion Jared 14 View Post
    But anyways, this person told me that they think "being done right" by fixing the flaws in past characters, while keeping the positives...How do you all feel about this??
    I mean, it is true that Misty and Iris share many similarities, but it just sounds to me like it's people who are trying to make Misty's time on the show seem pointless. People always say that Misty did nothing compared to May and Dawn, and though she did do less,she still did a lot, and stared in many episodes. I mean the Whirl Cup, the Seaking comp., the Poliwag epi in OI, Tentacool and Tentacruel, the Marill epi in Johto and so many others.

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    They most likely are trying to make Misty's time seem pointless which is of course not true in the least. May and Dawn had a goal which is at best relating to nothing more than a glorified beauty pageant so one could argue THEIR time was pointless.
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    I'm sorry for bringing the negativity with those comments that people brought to me...I just wanted to put the burden on the other Misty fans to see how they felt about it...it just feels refreshing to come to people who appreciate Misty's time on the show.

    Well, in addition to that at least it brought some conversation...lol

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