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    ^ Scarf Manectric hits 258 Spe, so you can get away with 129.
    but you're basically right, it is a bit pointless to run any more
    speed than that.

    Kerech is right about IV breeding, it can be a very long and
    tedious task. It usually takes me a couple of weeks to get the
    IV's I need, and even then you may have to sacrifice and take
    a horrible IV in another stat. Sometimes you can get lucky and
    the randomly generated stat will come out >25, but that's rare.
    IMO, it's totally worth the time if you're serious about the BS,
    but if you're boosting Spe and you can outspeed your fastest
    threat without a perfect IV, a perfect IV is not worth the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poopoop View Post
    how do you tell what the power of your hidden power is, do you use that formula thing or is there an easier way?
    You can use this calculator to figure out hidden power if you know the IVs.

    Quote Originally Posted by x_vandslaux_x View Post
    Just saying, but seeing all these sweeping teams w/ Speed boosting abilities (Swift Swim, Clorophyll, Speed Boost) You only need 130 Speed to outspeed Scarf Manetric, the fastest thing in the subway. Running any more is pointless, except if you want to save yourself from other Speed boosting sweepers.
    We don't all have time to breed Pokemon specifically for the subway. Many people use their subway Pokemon for competitive play as well which is why they might have more speed than they need in the subway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jolteon135 View Post
    You can use this calculator to figure out hidden power if you know the IVs.
    thanks man, this makes it a lot easier

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    sorry for the double post but does a battle video # count as proof for this? because right now my record is pretty high and when I lose I want to post my record

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    Quote Originally Posted by poopoop View Post
    sorry for the double post but does a battle video # count as proof for this? because right now my record is pretty high and when I lose I want to post my record
    Yes. Your question is answered in the first post.

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    5: When posting a record streak, please try to include some sort of proof,
    such as a battle video or photograph. This is more for people with larger streaks
    but it still wouldn't hurt.

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    What's a good Steel type in Rain? I need something to handle Dragons with. Ferrothorn's EQ neutrality is nice, but I like Klinklang's boosting and his ability to break Sturdy with Gear Grind.


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    Quote Originally Posted by x_vandslaux_x View Post
    What's a good Steel type in Rain? I need something to handle Dragons with. Ferrothorn's EQ neutrality is nice, but I like Klinklang's boosting and his ability to break Sturdy with Gear Grind.
    Scizor, Ferrothorn or Metagross are probably the best steels to use in the rain. All have nice natural bulk (especially Ferrothorn), and have their fire weakness lowered.
    Klingklang may be able to break sturdy, but has a barren movepool with 'meh' stats. Scizor and Metagross also have bullet punch which can help with navigating around fast Sturdy/Sash Pokemon.
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    Quick question, but the speed tiers. Do the Pokémon hit that exact speed stat, i.e. Manectric hits 258 Speed?
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    They hit that Spe stat in later matches. In the earliest ones, their IVs aren't flawless, so you'll find yourself outspeeding things you normally wouldn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BadWolf Churchill View Post
    Scizor, Ferrothorn or Metagross are probably the best steels to use in the rain. All have nice natural bulk (especially Ferrothorn), and have their fire weakness lowered.
    Klingklang may be able to break sturdy, but has a barren movepool with 'meh' stats. Scizor and Metagross also have bullet punch which can help with navigating around fast Sturdy/Sash Pokemon.
    Thunder Magnezone anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBlueRabbit View Post
    Thunder Magnezone anyone?
    True, I forgot about Magnezone. However, the other two members of his team (Politoed and Omastar) are specially based, so in this case a more physically inclined pokemon would probably work better.

    All four are probably better than Kingklang, yes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BadWolf Churchill View Post
    True, I forgot about Magnezone. However, the other two members of his team (Politoed and Omastar) are specially based, so in this case a more physically inclined pokemon would probably work better.

    All four are probably better than Kingklang, yes?
    Oh fair call in that case. I didn't realise that this was in context of a team at all lol.

    Lmao everything is better than Klinklang.

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    What's a better sweeper than Klinklang? I'm using one with Shift Gear, Gear Grind, Volt Switch, and Substitute, and it's working pretty good, but I hear everything's better than him. *pokes above post* Preferably a physically based Steel that lures Ground and Fire-type moves, but not necessarily Fighting, or, at least, has a way to deal with Fighting-types. Basically, I need a physically based partner for this:
    Hydreigon @ Dragon Gem
    4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spd
    Timid
    Dark Pulse
    Draco Meteor
    U-Turn
    Surf

    Dark Pulse is STAB.
    Draco Meteor gets boosted to power 315 (!!!) with Dragon Gem and STAB.
    U-Turn allows me to use Draco Meteor with full special attack again, and is useful for scouting.
    Surf gets psuedo STAB and gets good coverage.
    Only resisted by Empoleon.

    My last loss was just plain cheap. I switched from Klinklang to Hydreigon on a Salamence, predicting an Earthquake, Hydreigon gets Brick Break'd. Then Salamence used Earthquake on Klinklang.
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    I feel stupid: I don't actually know how to check my record. It was quite a while ago and I believe it was around 90. I checked "Records" on my PC and talked to just about everyone in the Battle Subway building. How do I find my record?
    4785-5873-5392

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    It's on your Vs. Recorder, I believe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by x_vandslaux_x View Post
    What's a better sweeper than Klinklang? I'm using one with Shift Gear, Gear Grind, Volt Switch, and Substitute, and it's working pretty good, but I hear everything's better than him. *pokes above post* Preferably a physically based Steel that lures Ground and Fire-type moves, but not necessarily Fighting, or, at least, has a way to deal with Fighting-types. Basically, I need a physically based partner for this:
    Hydreigon @ Dragon Gem
    4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spd
    Timid
    Dark Pulse
    Draco Meteor
    U-Turn
    Surf

    Dark Pulse is STAB.
    Draco Meteor gets boosted to power 315 (!!!) with Dragon Gem and STAB.
    U-Turn allows me to use Draco Meteor with full special attack again, and is useful for scouting.
    Surf gets psuedo STAB and gets good coverage.
    Only resisted by Empoleon.

    My last loss was just plain cheap. I switched from Klinklang to Hydreigon on a Salamence, predicting an Earthquake, Hydreigon gets Brick Break'd. Then Salamence used Earthquake on Klinklang.
    Excadrill with an Air Balloon or Magnezone with HP Fire and an Air Balloon.

    Quote Originally Posted by randomn00b View Post
    I feel stupid: I don't actually know how to check my record. It was quite a while ago and I believe it was around 90. I checked "Records" on my PC and talked to just about everyone in the Battle Subway building. How do I find my record?
    It should be on the tv screen next to the guy that takes you on the train.
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    Platinum: 4425 9372 9682

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    Excadrill: Excadrill sucks outside of sandstorm.
    Magnezone: I dunno. I only have a Timid Magnemite with HP Rock, but it's Mischievous with Magnet Pull, so hey, it might come in handy with Thunder abuse. Hydreigon can switch in on random EQs.

    Keep in mind that it's Rain.


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    Trying a rain lead, what do you guys think?

    Politoed @ Choice Scarf
    Modest Nature
    252 SpA/252 Spe/6 HP
    *Drizzle*
    ~ Psychic
    ~ Ice Beam
    ~ Focus Blast
    ~ Scald/Hydro Pump

    Mostly an offensive lead to come out swinging. I was also
    considering a ResTalk set with Encore and some filler move
    to act as a permanent weather setter but I wasn't sure if
    that would be any more useful than this one. Thoughts?

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    @Shuckle

    Looks pretty good to me. Though I'd replace Focus Blast with HP [electric] for BoltBeam coverage and because Focus Blast is inaccurate. (I'm pretty biased since I've been hax'd to death by the battle subway too many times and feel like Focus Blast will miss at the most inconvenient time)


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    On my team, Encore is so useful on Politoed it's crazy, allowing Ferrothorn to get free Curses on Grass and Electric-type moves. Ferrothorn can also absorb paralysis aimed at Hydreigon. Of course, mine's flawless in everything except Attack, so yeah...

    Use Lefties on Politoed. I've found this to be very useful:

    Politoed @Leftovers
    Calm
    252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
    Toxic
    Encore
    Protect
    Scald

    He's an amazing staller, can get setup time on a sweeper, and can shave off turns of stalling with stab rain-boosted Scalds.


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    That's not a bad set. I might try a rain team soon. I could use that
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    Although when you don't OHKO Gengar with the equivalent of a STAB Hydro Pump, you know your offense has problems.


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    Hi guys.

    I've been playing a bit of Battle Subway, but I'm having trouble getting a third member. Here's what I've got so far

    Darmanitan@Life Orb
    Jolly Nature
    Sheer Force
    4HP/252Atk/252Spe
    -Flare Blitz
    -U-Turn
    -Earthquake
    -Rock Slide

    Hydreigon@Dragon Gem
    Naive Nature
    Levitate
    4HP/20Atk/252SpA/232Spe
    -Draco Meteor
    -U-Turn
    -Dark Pulse
    -Surf

    For the third member, I've tried using Electivire, Thundurus, Zapdos and Porygon-Z. Can you guys give me a Pokemon that will fit this team? If possible, making it another Sweeper-Type Pokemon. Thanks in advance.

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    Is Aerial Ace good on Ferrothorn? I, personally, use this, as I have nothing else to hit Shedinja with, and I don't feel like putting Shadow Ball or HP Dark on Latios, and I have no clue what else to put in the last slot. (I have Gyro Ball, Power Whip, Curse, and Aerial Ace.)


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    ^The thing is, Status moves still hit Shedinja as far as I know, so You can finish it off like that.
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