Battle Subway Discussion & Ranking Hall~ Now With Singles Team Building Guide!

**RiseOfZekrom** · 2nd July 2011, 9:10 PM

Originally Posted by x_vandslaux_x

What's a better sweeper than Klinklang? I'm using one with Shift Gear, Gear Grind, Volt Switch, and Substitute, and it's working pretty good, but I hear everything's better than him. *pokes above post* Preferably a physically based Steel that lures Ground and Fire-type moves, but not necessarily Fighting, or, at least, has a way to deal with Fighting-types. Basically, I need a physically based partner for this:
Hydreigon @ Dragon Gem
4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spd
Timid
Dark Pulse
Draco Meteor
U-Turn
Surf

Dark Pulse is STAB.
Draco Meteor gets boosted to power 315 (!!!) with Dragon Gem and STAB.
U-Turn allows me to use Draco Meteor with full special attack again, and is useful for scouting.
Surf gets psuedo STAB and gets good coverage.
Only resisted by Empoleon.

My last loss was just plain cheap. I switched from Klinklang to Hydreigon on a Salamence, predicting an Earthquake, Hydreigon gets Brick Break'd. Then Salamence used Earthquake on Klinklang.

Excadrill with an Air Balloon or Magnezone with HP Fire and an Air Balloon.

Originally Posted by randomn00b

I feel stupid: I don't actually know how to check my record. It was quite a while ago and I believe it was around 90. I checked "Records" on my PC and talked to just about everyone in the Battle Subway building. How do I find my record?

It should be on the tv screen next to the guy that takes you on the train.

**Vandslaux** · 2nd July 2011, 9:38 PM

Excadrill: Excadrill sucks outside of sandstorm.
Magnezone: I dunno. I only have a Timid Magnemite with HP Rock, but it's Mischievous with Magnet Pull, so hey, it might come in handy with Thunder abuse. Hydreigon can switch in on random EQs.

Keep in mind that it's Rain.

**[GS]** · 4th July 2011, 7:09 PM

Trying a rain lead, what do you guys think?

Politoed @ Choice Scarf
Modest Nature
252 SpA/252 Spe/6 HP
*Drizzle*
~ Psychic
~ Ice Beam
~ Focus Blast
~ Scald/Hydro Pump

Mostly an offensive lead to come out swinging. I was also
considering a ResTalk set with Encore and some filler move
to act as a permanent weather setter but I wasn't sure if
that would be any more useful than this one. Thoughts?

**General Nonsense** · 4th July 2011, 7:31 PM

@Shuckle

Looks pretty good to me. Though I'd replace Focus Blast with HP [electric] for BoltBeam coverage and because Focus Blast is inaccurate. (I'm pretty biased since I've been hax'd to death by the battle subway too many times and feel like Focus Blast will miss at the most inconvenient time)

**Vandslaux** · 4th July 2011, 7:58 PM

On my team, Encore is so useful on Politoed it's crazy, allowing Ferrothorn to get free Curses on Grass and Electric-type moves. Ferrothorn can also absorb paralysis aimed at Hydreigon. Of course, mine's flawless in everything except Attack, so yeah...

Use Lefties on Politoed. I've found this to be very useful:

Politoed @Leftovers
Calm
252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Toxic
Encore
Protect
Scald

He's an amazing staller, can get setup time on a sweeper, and can shave off turns of stalling with stab rain-boosted Scalds.

**Psycho Cut** · 4th July 2011, 8:06 PM

That's not a bad set. I might try a rain team soon. I could use that

**Vandslaux** · 4th July 2011, 9:40 PM

Although when you don't OHKO Gengar with the equivalent of a STAB Hydro Pump, you know your offense has problems.

**iWannaFly** · 8th July 2011, 12:16 PM

Hi guys.

I've been playing a bit of Battle Subway, but I'm having trouble getting a third member. Here's what I've got so far

Darmanitan@Life Orb
Jolly Nature
Sheer Force
4HP/252Atk/252Spe
-Flare Blitz
-U-Turn
-Earthquake
-Rock Slide

Hydreigon@Dragon Gem
Naive Nature
Levitate
4HP/20Atk/252SpA/232Spe
-Draco Meteor
-U-Turn
-Dark Pulse
-Surf

For the third member, I've tried using Electivire, Thundurus, Zapdos and Porygon-Z. Can you guys give me a Pokemon that will fit this team? If possible, making it another Sweeper-Type Pokemon. Thanks in advance.

**Vandslaux** · 8th July 2011, 5:06 PM

Is Aerial Ace good on Ferrothorn? I, personally, use this, as I have nothing else to hit Shedinja with, and I don't feel like putting Shadow Ball or HP Dark on Latios, and I have no clue what else to put in the last slot. (I have Gyro Ball, Power Whip, Curse, and Aerial Ace.)

**AquaRegisteel** · 8th July 2011, 7:55 PM

^The thing is, Status moves still hit Shedinja as far as I know, so You can finish it off like that.

**Vandslaux** · 8th July 2011, 8:27 PM

Oh. I was running Toxic in the last slot. I just got to 28.

EDIT: I just beat Super Single Ingo. Is 49 and still going high enough for the ranking hall? I'll have proof later tonight, when I can upload the video.

EDIT EDIT: Who would win, assuming both are flawless, with this set, Ferrothorn or Accelgor? I was looking at the Speed tiers, and the only thing I saw that wasn't scarfed and was dangerous (AKA Stab not resisted) was Accelgor. I KNOW FOCUS BLAST HURTS.
Ferrothorn @Leftovers
Sassy
252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
Curse
Gyro Ball
Power Whip
Aerial Ace

**jolteon135** · 9th July 2011, 5:34 AM

Originally Posted by x_vandslaux_x

Oh. I was running Toxic in the last slot. I just got to 28.

EDIT: I just beat Super Single Ingo. Is 49 and still going high enough for the ranking hall? I'll have proof later tonight, when I can upload the video.

EDIT EDIT: Who would win, assuming both are flawless, with this set, Ferrothorn or Accelgor? I was looking at the Speed tiers, and the only thing I saw that wasn't scarfed and was dangerous (AKA Stab not resisted) was Accelgor. I KNOW FOCUS BLAST HURTS.
Ferrothorn @Leftovers
Sassy
252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
Curse
Gyro Ball
Power Whip
Aerial Ace

Congrats. Both of the focus blast accelgors have a focus sash. Ferrothorn has good special defense though.
The Timid EV'd in Speed/SpA Accelgor does 76-90 HP damage to your Ferrothorn meaning Ferrothorn always survives 2 hits from it (and KOs it of course). As long as Accelgor doesn't get a crit you should be fine but this is the subway so untimely crits aren't uncommon. <__>
None of the modest ones have focus blast.

Movesets/EVs

**Vandslaux** · 9th July 2011, 4:40 PM

OK. I will always win, except in the case of a crit? In which case, I wonder if Latios can survive a Bug Buzz without SDef EVs..

In case 49 is high enough, here's my team:
Spoiler:- team:

EDIT: I got to 63 w/o D-Nite.

EDIT EDIT: I just lost to a Honchkrow. Encored Thunder Wave and switched to Ferrothorn, Cursed, Ferrothorn was paralyzed and couldn't move, paralyzed again, Drill Pecked me for the KO. 2HKOed Politoed w/ Sucker Punch. Was fully paralyzed first time. Beat it with Latios. Leafeon was up next. Psyshocked, did about 50%, Leafeon X-Scissored, Quick Claw activated and KOed me with Leaf Blade. My streak was 74. Well, I got enough for all power items.. I should try this team on Random Matchup.

**[GS]** · 16th July 2011, 11:56 AM

Sorry about the delay, been on my honeymoon. ^^'

60 is the lowest streak to get on the leaderboard, but your 79 streak
is fine. Post the details and I'll get you added to the board.

**Psycho Cut** · 16th July 2011, 12:17 PM

So you need at least 60 to make it on?

I'm on 49 atm with my Sandstorm Double Team

**[GS]** · 16th July 2011, 12:21 PM

Yea, 60+ is the limit for non-Wifi subway records.

I'm probably going to require 50+ for Wifi.

**Psycho Cut** · 16th July 2011, 12:21 PM

Right. I'll see if I can make that. Knowing me, I'll probably get to 59 and then lose...

**Vandslaux** · 16th July 2011, 8:50 PM

Here's my team:

Politoed @Rocky Helmet
Calm
Drizzle
252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Scald
Toxic
Psychic
Encore

Scald is STAB and has a chance to burn. Toxic is because of Politoed's good bulk. Psychic is for Toxicroak (Can kill Latios with Sucker Punch.) Encore allows Ferrothorn to get free Curses on Grass and Electric moves aimed at Politoed.

Ferrothorn @Leftovers
Sassy
Iron Barbs
252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
Curse
Power Whip
Gyro Ball
Aerial Ace

Basic Curse Ferrothorn with Aerial Ace for Shedinja. Absorbs Paralysis for Latios.

Latios (I knew I should have used a Multiscale Dragonite!) @Life Orb
Timid
Levitate
4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Speed
Psyshock
Surf
Thunder
Draco Meteor

Psyshock allows me to go psuedo mixed. Surf and Thunder abuse Rain. Draco Meteor gives a huge hit on their final pokemon.

How I lost: I lost to a Honchkrow. Encored Thunder Wave and switched to Ferrothorn, Cursed, Ferrothorn was paralyzed and couldn't move, paralyzed again, crit Drill Pecked me for the KO. 2HKOed Politoed w/ Sucker Punch. Was fully paralyzed first time. Beat it with Latios. Leafeon was up next. Psyshocked, did about 50%, Leafeon X-Scissored, Quick Claw activated and KOed me with Leaf Blade. I was afraid Honchkrow would kill Latios with Sucker Punch.

**[GS]** · 17th July 2011, 5:53 AM

^ Just so you know, Shedinja isn't in the Battle Subway, so you're better off using Substitute
to keep you safe from status and become basically invincible against physical attackers.

Added you to the OP.

EDIT: Just lost at 137, putting it in spoilers. 137 streak

The battle video # is 91-83735-62531.

Spoiler:- The Team:

Spoiler:- How I Lost:

Spoiler:- Proof:

**bobyjoe5000** · 20th July 2011, 12:40 PM

currently with my friend we have a 56 win steak.

on wi-fi, i have achieved rank 5 (i think that is good). I also beat emit and inzo in all super subways. i lost the train after that on all but super single. which i am currently on an 63 win streak.

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