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    It suddenly dawns upon me that I'm going to have to do Lost Bloodlines 2 many, many times to be able to get more Dread Scrolls for multiple characters.

    Suddenly glad that the Dread Warriors aren't overwhelmingly superior or anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hydrohs View Post
    I'm certainly not going through the hell of reclassing most of my units to try and get it, levelling them is slow enough as it is.
    If there's one thing I'm not liking in this game it's reclassing all of the female units who are capable of learning Galeforce. Sometimes I don't even know whether the skill's worth the time anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R_N View Post
    It's a shame Dread Fighters don't get to use dark magic
    Having Shadowtouch as an ability would be amazing
    Probably would be overkill. Having Lethality and the one that gives an extra action w/ defeat is bad/good enough.


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    Okay, Infinite Regalia is proving to be an annoyance. Those legendary weapons they're using certainly aren't for show. Doesn't help that the random Counter-users keep screwing me over.

    But the annoying thing is that I've realized that the unit placement is randomized. Every time you do the map, the 36 units will be organized differently. This includes if you save during set up, and later reload the save. Oi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillerDraco View Post
    Hm. I checked Serene Forest for the max stat caps for Dread Fighters, and they're not overwhelming or anything. On the Avatar, they look like:
    HP:80 - STR:42 - MAG:38 - SKL:40 - SPE:41 - LCK:45 - DEF:39 - RES:43

    So above average strength and resistance, and everything else is just sort of average. Seems like a more well balanced class, comparable to Heroes, albeit trading skill for Magic and having less speed and defense in exchange for more resistance.
    Keep in mind you're looking at caps and not bases. They have fairly good bases, which means just about any character reclassed to Dread Fighter will be better off, unless they're capping stats already.

    Reclassing My Unit into a Dread Fighter from a Hero raised his Resistance by 6, and gave him the Res +10 skill. Easily made him the best mageslayer I have now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clamps View Post
    Keep in mind you're looking at caps and not bases. They have fairly good bases, which means just about any character reclassed to Dread Fighter will be better off, unless they're capping stats already.

    Reclassing My Unit into a Dread Fighter from a Hero raised his Resistance by 6, and gave him the Res +10 skill. Easily made him the best mageslayer I have now.
    Indeed, I was looking at caps, as they were the most relevant to me at the moment. Most of my units (that I actually use anyway) are at or very close to their caps already, so... yeah. Bases would be what I'd look at when I start my next file, of course.

    Still though, they do seem like they'd be useful in the higher difficulties when mages are plentiful, what with their high resistances. I guess they'd be what you'd call a niche class.

    Edit: Well, in the interest of comprehensive coverage, might as well link the base stats compared to Heroes then (I only use Heroes as a point of comparison because they're considered the middle of the road, most balanced physically oriented class that's readily available since technically Grandmaster is the most balanced but very few characters can be one of those)

    Dread Fighter: HP: 22 - STR: 8 - MAG: 4 - SKL: 7 - SPD: 9 - DEF: 7 - RES: 10 - MOV: 6

    Hero: HP: 22 - STR: 8 - MAG: 1 - SKL: 11 - SPD: 10 - DEF: 8 - RES: 3 - MOV: 6

    Fairly comparable. Definitely better resistance for Dread Fighters, no contest. Seems like they've definitely earned the niche of Mage Slayer.
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    That's basically what they were in Gaiden as well, since a Myrmidon gained +10 Res on promotion and every unit had a 0% Res growth.

    You either used them or used a unit with a higher base Res, and the only units with decent base Res were mages, so that meant you were basically going to have a long battle, since the enemy also has high Res.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakansen View Post
    If there's one thing I'm not liking in this game it's reclassing all of the female units who are capable of learning Galeforce. Sometimes I don't even know whether the skill's worth the time anymore.
    It is. It absolutely is.

    Quote Originally Posted by KillerDraco View Post
    Okay, Infinite Regalia is proving to be an annoyance. Those legendary weapons they're using certainly aren't for show. Doesn't help that the random Counter-users keep screwing me over.

    But the annoying thing is that I've realized that the unit placement is randomized. Every time you do the map, the 36 units will be organized differently. This includes if you save during set up, and later reload the save. Oi.
    Yeah, I went in with my super-strong units that had capped almost all their stats, and was promptly destroyed. I wasn't ready for how much damage they could deal.


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    Well, Infinite Regalia was definitely the most difficult DLC they've offered so far (although this is, in and of itself, not saying much considering how easy most of the other DLC maps are), but it was worth it. The Silver Card is definitely nice; nothing like half price everything.
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    ...I actually beat Infinite Regalia quite easily, dunno why you all are having so much trouble. Course Owain and his Sol and forged Levin Sword did most of the dirty work. Then I end up getting two of the same weapon. Really?

    The Silver card is also very nice, though not as useful when you have the Golden Gaffe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grim Heaper View Post
    ...I actually beat Infinite Regalia quite easily, dunno why you all are having so much trouble. Course Owain and his Sol and forged Levin Sword did most of the dirty work. Then I end up getting two of the same weapon. Really?

    The Silver card is also very nice, though not as useful when you have the Golden Gaffe.
    Poor evasion luck (getting hit three times in a row with < 30% accuracy, wth) and some strategically placed Counters made things annoying. But I went and did it a second time, and it seemed much easier than the first. Guess the luck of the draw in placement and individual clashes factors into it too.
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    I really love Gregor's convo in infinite Regalia.

    Is that big legendary weapon or you just happy to see Gregor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grim Heaper View Post
    ...I actually beat Infinite Regalia quite easily, dunno why you all are having so much trouble. Course Owain and his Sol and forged Levin Sword did most of the dirty work. Then I end up getting two of the same weapon. Really?

    The Silver card is also very nice, though not as useful when you have the Golden Gaffe.
    Wait 'til you see the last DLC...

    It's crazy hard.

    Unless you have Limit Breaker on all you units.

    And forged Brave weapons and Cellica's Gales.

    But even then, it's no joke. -_-'

    I can't wait to play it, though!

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    I'm assuming Dread Fighter is male only? My female Avatar could not choose the scroll, and it's a shame since Dread Fighter is essentially a souped up Grandmaster, oh well Morgan and Donnal should easily fill those spots.

    Speaking of Donnel, I can't use Skill+2 on him, he has some other stat bonusers and maxed out stats, but so do my other units and they can still equip it.
    Quote Originally Posted by willda View Post
    As I said before they will all evolve into Emboar, ALL gen 6 pokemon will be Emboar, Yveltal and Xerneas's alternate formes? Emboar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalFlygon08 View Post
    I'm assuming Dread Fighter is male only?
    You assume correctly. Dread Fighter is the male-only DLC class, while Bride is the female-only DLC class.
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    You know, I was worried the spot pass characters would be like Say'ri with their supports. That being mind numbingly boring, but if
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    Is any indication the Avatar support makes up for it in spades.

    He's probably had one of the more legitimately interesting supports in the game (that I've seen).

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    Quote Originally Posted by R_N View Post
    You know, I was worried the spot pass characters would be like Say'ri with their supports. That being mind numbingly boring, but if
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    Is any indication the Avatar support makes up for it in spades.

    He's probably had one of the more legitimately interesting supports in the game (that I've seen).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grim Heaper View Post
    ...I actually beat Infinite Regalia quite easily, dunno why you all are having so much trouble. Course Owain and his Sol and forged Levin Sword did most of the dirty work. Then I end up getting two of the same weapon. Really?

    The Silver card is also very nice, though not as useful when you have the Golden Gaffe.
    I've never forged a single weapon, I think I'll probably have to start at this point.

    Quote Originally Posted by MetalFlygon08 View Post
    I really love Gregor's convo in infinite Regalia.

    Is that big legendary weapon or you just happy to see Gregor?
    Gregor has great lines.


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    I think Infinite Regalia is trolling me. 70% of the weapons I've got from it have been bows. And at the moment, the only "bow users" I have are Assassins (given Virion and Noire are reclassed for skills atm). It knows what I don't need. And it's giving me lots of it.
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    I've never forged a single weapon, I think I'll probably have to start at this point.
    Ditto... I've been getting destroyed by what's-his-name's army in Chapter 19 for quite some time now. And I have some gold laying around... But maybe I should just grind the Spotpass characters.

    In other news, I've done everything listed here and I've still been having untold oodles of troubles on the Lunatic Prologue! And the goshdarned video won't upload for me, dagnabbit!

    I don't suppose anybody has any advice for that? Again?

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