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    Rewatched the entire episode since I was only able to see 3 minutes or so and people opinions plus pictures.

    A lot better now, it was a funny episode, I agree with the person that said Dent went throw so much trouble for troll Frilish to release it but I guess it released all of them so its fine.

    Basculin was pretty cool both of them in anime form, they were already cool ingame imo.

    I wanted troll Frilish to get caught so she learns not to release other peepz pogeymanz.

    Well my opinion changed this was a funny episode and once again it obviously wasn't a filler, Dent captured a pokemon regardless of it being released, Belle a rival came back for the episode too, Dent hobby was developed.

    I still think since they edited the episode they could have been smart enough to not make Satoshi dex Yamask or atleast edit it s Belle would do it instead.

    It still isn't an awesome episode and it would be skipable but we wouldn't know that Dent captured a pokemon in this episode if it was skiped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinyCharyZard View Post
    I just dislike his character, he's too OTT and in your face for my liking.. It's just like they're trying too hard with him, which is a shame because he had the potential to be a character I could really like..
    Well Cilan's character is mostly aimed at female fans. He's not as unisex as Brock was, (before he got stale in DP), where both genders enjoy him.

    The writers are obviously making sure Cilan doesn't backfire like Tracey did, so that's why they're using him so often.

    Is there any particular reason why in your eyes, any negative opinionsomeone has about this saga instantly relates back to an old character? Seriously, the fact I dislike Cilan has nothing to do with the fact I liked Brock.. and the fact I really like Iris has nothing to do with the fact that I despised Dawn. People have different tastes, it's a matter of opinion.
    Usually it does relate to not like a character because people liked a different character better. No matter, really, I just think the BW trio as a group makes up for any individual shortcomings of Iris or Cilan individually.

    At least this trio actually has a dynamic and chemistry, unlike whatever the DP trio was supposed to be.

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    Wait does Ash capture Frillish in this episode?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberCubed View Post
    Well Cilan's character is mostly aimed at female fans. He's not as unisex as Brock was, (before he got stale in DP), where both genders enjoy him.
    Dento's character is not aimed at female fans. I don't know where the heck you got that idea from.

    Female teenagers just like him that's it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotpika View Post
    Dento's character is not aimed at female fans. I don't know where the heck you got that idea from.

    Female teenagers just like him that's it.
    Exactly. The writers aren't trying to aim him at anyone IT JUST HAPPENS I fully blame Mamoru Miyano. I honestly don't see Dento becoming as popular for the people who just watch the dub. I guess for some people...but...
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    Is it me or does Bel(le)'s voice sound like Haruka's or Hikari's (notice the usage of Japanese names)? Has this already been addressed?

    Ok, episode. It was a bit of a letdown for me, really, but that doesn't mean I did not enjoy it. For starters, I was not expecting the episode to be edited. I expected it to be really funny (almost on par with Claydol, Big and Tall), but it wasn't. But that's ok. I enjoyed the episode. I'm becoming more and more of a Cilan fan. The dude is just awesome!
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    No one can say Cilan isn't getting screentime at least... All of these episodes where he's becoming a connoisseur [insert role here] are speculated to be funny and charming, yet all seem to fall flat. I hope the next Cilan episode isn't forcing him into some role and instead gives him some real development with what they've already established about him

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    -We begin with...Ash wondering where the next gym is. Delayed episode? I THINK NOT.
    -Bianca crashing into people(and sending them into rivers!) will never get old.
    -But Bianca had a good excuse for crashing into Ash: A FISHING TOURNAMENT! And Dento immediately goes FISHING WHAT WHAT and goes into overexcited mode.
    -After everyone else decides to enter the tournament...Dento goes into IT'S FISHING TIME overdramatic mode and starts dramatically talking about fishing or something while he cuts to a stylized version of himself fishing for a giant fish in the middle of a stormy sea(he also shoehorns being a FISHING sommelier in there at one point). Boy be crazy. Entertaining, but crazy. And by the way Ash, Bianca, and Iris were staring at him, I think they'd agree.
    -The tournament's being run by Team Rocket. Of course.
    -Fishing balls? Was it that hard to draw Net Balls?
    -OH MY GOD DENTO'S SMUGFACE. It is a thing of...mild creepiness. And also beauty.
    -The prize is apparently a SUPER AWESOME GOLDEN SPARKLING FISHING ROD. As far as I'm concerned all fishing rods do the same damned thing, but at least that one looks ~fancy~
    -Bianca goes to pick a rod, but Dento dramatically insists NO and starts looking over the rods for one that's suitable. Take that sentence out of context and I will cut you.
    -...wait a minute...extreme drama about relatively mundane things...dramatic unveilings of his latest passion(including over-the-top animations at times)...musical cues that kick in when he starts being overdramatic...so Dento's where the spirit of pre-BW TR went. (only funnier)
    -After Bianca awkwardly thanks Dento for picking out a fishing rod for her...Dento chuckles and dramatically reveals his OWN super special rod. Seriously, I will cut you if you take these out of context.
    -Meanwhile, Iris is just -_-ing at all this. I can't really blame her.
    -They finally get out to the competition area, where Bianca promptly starts swinging her rod about with wild abandon. And she catches something pretty quickly...her rod hooked an Ash Ketchum!
    -Dento's taken it upon himself to give the group a demonstration of proper fishing technique, apparently. And yes, it's as overdramatic as everything else he does in this episode. He even calls out an OVERHEAD CAST! as if it was an attack or something.
    -Ahahahah Dento's "oh no you didn't" finger waggle after Bianca wondered why he didn't reel his catch in immediately.
    -...I just realized that Dento isn't using his Dento lure here. BOO.
    -Dento decides to battle the Basculin he fished up, which...quickly leads to Yanappu getting bitten. And Aqua Tailed.
    -But that gets turned around quickly enough, and Dento hams it up again as he orders Pansage to finish it off with a Solarbeam. And then...Dento (temporarily?) catches Basculin.
    -Back at the judge's counter...Dento is standing in line with another smugface.
    -Iris apparently sucks at fishing with a fishing rod. So after getting sick of nothing biting...she takes matters into her own hands. (disclaimer: Killing people for making bad puns is illegal in all 50 states)
    -...too bad that James calls her on it. I guess TR has to at least *pretend* there are rules while they blatently gather a bunch of free Pokemon.
    -Speaking of free Pokemon, Jessie is collecting the caught Pokemon for "judging", and Dento rightfully wonders how they'll tell all the balls apart once it's prize time. I think? Then he brings up something smug about champion class and I DON'T KNOW.
    -Back at the river, Bianca's caught something big! It's...wait, Dento just charged in with a "WHAT ARE YOU DOING" look on his face. Anyway, it's a Frillish. And it immediately gives Ash a big ol' death grip hug.
    -Everyone gapes in shock, and Bianca...scans Frillish with her Pokedex while Ash struggles to get free. WHAT A JERK.
    -Dento and Iris try to help...which prompts Frillish to turn this into a group hug! So Ash does what he probably should have done earlier and just has Pikachu Thunderbolt the damned thing.
    -Also TR's making their escape. It's kind of hard to care when they're not really stealing anyone's treasured Pokemon, but I guess they're still being jerks to people who thought they might win a fancy fishing rod.
    -Frillish then decided to push TR's boat away because...it's a jerk, I guess.
    -And then everyone picked that exact moment to go over to where TR was and overhear everything.
    -Blah blah fighting blah blah Frillish was apparently freeing the Pokemon from the fishing balls while we weren't looking bl-wait, what?
    -TR jetpacks off again. And Dento's first priority after that is...digging through the ruined building looking for the awesome fishing rod. But it's broken in half. Too bad! (...was he just going to take it for himself if it hadn't been broken?)

    In conclusion, Dento is a smug/insane bastard and I love him for it. Bianca could have done more, though. (although I guess that can be forgiven since this was originally intended to lead into her being with the group for several episodes)

    Also, I'm baffled at all the people who hate this episode because nobody caught anything(or whatever it is you were expecting to happen). I understand that it's probably not all that great if you're not a Dento fan, but it didn't seem like the complete waste of time some of you are claiming it was. Or maybe it's just part of this forum's baffling "ALL FILLERS ARE ALWAYS BAD RARGH HATE FILLERS" mentality.
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    This episode, based on when it was supposed to air, really seems like a nice hurrah to TR's personality. It really almost feels like one of the older episodes with them wearing paper thin disguises and setting up a scam to get free pokemon. Heck they even had something go wrong with their original get away with Frillish taking their boat. While I dislike them being clowns, it was nice seeing them with their personalities in tact (and thank god no dancing or rhyming from them when they were in privacy).

    And did Iris really take off her pants here? And this is supposed to be a kids show.

    I gotta wonder though, was the ending of the episode changed or something because if it wasn't, with the proper order the episodes aired in, Bel just kinda randomly appeared in the group between episodes even though she left them at the end of the episode. I mean sure Best Wishes has had those situations where it drops us in a situation making us wonder if we missed something, but that's just kinda strange for her to leave the group at the end of one episode only to be with them in the beginning of the next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poke Master 7 View Post
    This episode, based on when it was supposed to air, really seems like a nice hurrah to TR's personality. It really almost feels like one of the older episodes with them wearing paper thin disguises and setting up a scam to get free pokemon. Heck they even had something go wrong with their original get away with Frillish taking their boat. While I dislike them being clowns, it was nice seeing them with their personalities in tact (and thank god no dancing or rhyming from them when they were in privacy).

    And did Iris really take off her pants here? And this is supposed to be a kids show.
    I gotta wonder though, was the ending of the episode changed or something because if it wasn't, with the proper order the episodes aired in, Bel just kinda randomly appeared in the group between episodes even though she left them at the end of the episode. I mean sure Best Wishes has had those situations where it drops us in a situation making us wonder if we missed something, but that's just kinda strange for her to leave the group at the end of one episode only to be with them in the beginning of the next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gliscor&yanmega View Post
    Finished watching the video of it. I enjoyed the episode even more compared to just looking at the pictures.

    Cilan's facial expression at the start were awesome. He knows he's awesome.

    The Frillish scene was...interesting. :P

    I kind of wanted Cilan to keep Basculin, I thought it would be interesting to see what it would be like with him.

    I thought the episode was pretty entertaining.
    well this episode was skipped for a couple months remember and had cilan kept the basculin it would have raised confusions......wow....i haven't seen a main character this energetic since well ash.....may.....and well......she who shall never be named again......*glares at dawn*

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    Quote Originally Posted by jscholfield View Post
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    And did Iris really take off her pants here? And this is supposed to be a kids show.
    Yeah wait what?
    If you are surprised about this, then you should be more surprised at what Ash did to Bianca in the disguise of helping her (see where Ash's hands are in the pic below).
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    Uhhhh... What about the episode with Team Rocket and Team Plasma going at it? When's that gonna be back on the air!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jolteonjak View Post
    Is it me or does Bel(le)'s voice sound like Haruka's or Hikari's (notice the usage of Japanese names)? Has this already been addressed?
    Nope first time voicing a character in the Pokemon anime for her VA, unless she did some pokemons but characters this is the first.

    Oh and whats up with the Kiddos being offended by Iris taking of her pants because she is going into the water and Belle being hugged by Satoshi and the animator putting the hand there, I'm sure he was thinking of Satoshi grabbing her boob, sure sure, go make some shippings with that, shipping people, seriously are you are asking if you are kids and then you guys act like kids asking this stupid stuff?

    I know you are joking Lucario(or atleast I hope so).

    Jupotorou you kinda of said this two weeks in a row but anywa, neither last week neither this one was filler, last week had Team Rocket development Zeager gave them new orders to spy on the Dream Machine for a future project, it had plot development no filler, this week like I said Belle came back and we got a capture even if it was released not filler either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucario At Service View Post
    If you are surprised about this, then you should be more surprised at what Ash did to Bianca in the disguise of helping her (see where Ash's hands are in the pic below).
    http://i51.*******.com/izz3ww.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poke Master 7 View Post

    And did Iris really take off her pants here? And this is supposed to be a kids show.
    A.....................nd? You couldn't see anything....

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolipiece View Post
    A.....................nd? You couldn't see anything....
    ....It was a joke

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderblade12 View Post
    No one can say Cilan isn't getting screentime at least... All of these episodes where he's becoming a connoisseur [insert role here] are speculated to be funny and charming, yet all seem to fall flat. I hope the next Cilan episode isn't forcing him into some role and instead gives him some real development with what they've already established about him
    Well, to be a kind of fair, this episode aired before BW035 so this "Sommelier _______" does have some meaning for his character. It's not like it's too much, we've had Fishing, Science, Detective and if you think about it they all deal with Science somehow. Whether or not they put immense backhistory into him, it's nice that they actually give him hobbies and things that make his character feel more realistic.

    I think Dento has a few screws loose in the head anyways....

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    Also I think Dento's "tsk tsk tsk" when Bianca and Ash were telling him to hurry was in time with the music in the background XD
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    Pretty good episode. It was obvious Ash wasn't going to catch Frillish >.<
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucario At Service View Post
    If you are surprised about this, then you should be more surprised at what Ash did to Bianca in the disguise of helping her (see where Ash's hands are in the pic below).
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    I love this episode because of.... something. Probably the humor for ex.: The hugging female Frillish, hugs everyone she sees, and Bianca hooking Ash. Congratulations Bianca, you've caught a human on your hook.
    I'd give this episode a..... 9/10. Loses a point because it was a compete filler!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxbaconxx View Post
    I love this episode because of.... something. Probably the humor for ex.: The hugging female Frillish, hugs everyone she sees, and Bianca hooking Ash. Congratulations Bianca, you've caught a human on your hook.
    I'd give this episode a..... 9/10. Loses a point because it was a compete filler!!!!
    Compete filler?

    I think it's a dumb reason to take off points for an episode because it is apparently a filler, especially when you actually really enjoyed watching the episode.

    I thought it was cool that Cilan caught a Basculin for a little bit. I was hoping to see a few more Water Type Pokémon here, such as Tirtouga, but we did technically get three debuts here (both Basculin forms and a female Frillish). I think it was good that Cilan didn't keep Basculin because it probably wouldn't be much use outside of the water, like what I think of Cilan's Stunfisk.
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    When that female Frillish was loving Ash he should have caught her, took her to a private room, and explored her but instead he got all freaked out! Come on Ash! You'll never be a Pokemon master if you don't learn to have sex with Pokemon! Especially if you have females you have to explore them personally, mentally and of course physically. Its very hard to get a Pokemon to mate with you and you blew it by not catching that lovely female Frillish!
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    Frillish really does have a death-grip hug. That's why her species are Water-Ghost.
    Cilan seriously trying to steal the fishing rod?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marbi Z View Post
    When that female Frillish was loving Ash he should have caught her, took her to a private room, and explored her but instead he got all freaked out! Come on Ash! You'll never be a Pokemon master if you don't learn to have sex with Pokemon! Especially if you have females you have to explore them personally, mentally and of course physically. Its very hard to get a Pokemon to mate with you and you blew it by not catching that lovely female Frillish!
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