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    I vote for reflect type Latias.
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    I vote Breloom. It's so badass and can easily sweep through unprepared teams.
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    I also vote for Reflect Type Latias I'm too much of a noob to contribute sets, mine suck
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuoteMaster View Post
    I also vote for Reflect Type Latias I'm too much of a noob to contribute sets, mine suck
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    I'd say Froslass,but I don't like the set - everybody knows it too well :/

    I have an original idea for a poke to run alongside Skarmory,so I'll pick that instead
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    I have a question: Let's say you're Lilligant/Kingdra rank, and you want to get something that cost 200 points, does that mean you go all the way back to Petilil/Goldeen rank?

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    I vote for Reflect type Latias. Even though I don't play OU,(I play NU and RU) that Latias set is pretty cool,because I saw it on a spade video
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakallowin View Post
    I hate you all. Frosslass needs so much support though. We'll practically need another spin blocker and a Rocker. Skarm provides both hazards and Terrakion has enough offensive pressure to warrant just SR. Having just Spikes is practically useless, so it cannot fill the hazards spot by itself. Skarm or Terrakion provides SR (and spikes for Skarm) and only needs one spot to be useful. Just sayin'.
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    Switching vote to custap skarm
    better for ho with the custap then terra. and i think this team will need those hazards




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    ^ It's not HO.



    Reflect Type Latias: 6
    Lead Froslass: 4
    Custap Skarm: 4
    LO Shaymin: 2
    LO Breloom: 1



    Quote Originally Posted by GoggleWaddleDee View Post
    I have a question: Let's say you're Lilligant/Kingdra rank, and you want to get something that cost 200 points, does that mean you go all the way back to Petilil/Goldeen rank?
    I'm fairly sure you stay in Lilligant/Kingdra rank.

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    I vote for Skarmory I think it would be great to get some hazards up
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    Quote Originally Posted by The DragonKnight View Post
    ^ It's not HO.



    Reflect Type Latias: 6
    Lead Froslass: 4
    Custap Skarm: 4
    LO Shaymin: 2
    LO Breloom: 1





    I'm fairly sure you stay in Lilligant/Kingdra rank.
    You know what he means >.> Besides, Pure Offense Technically doesn't rule out HO. It just isn't defined as HO.

    And Rank points =/= Shop points.

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    I think any type of choice scarf Chandelure could make a great sweeper as it can get some free switch ins from people trying to hit skarm with fire attacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakallowin View Post
    And your winner is...............

    Skarmory: 7
    Latias: 6
    Froslass: 3
    Shaymin: 2
    Breloom: 1
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    Lets get this nominating underhand here.



    Landorus-Therian (M) @ Leftovers /Lifeorb
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 252 Atk / 208 Spd / 48 HP
    Adamant Nature
    - Swords Dance
    - Rock Polish
    - Stone Edge
    - Earthquake


    Landorus works well covering the electric weakness of skarm (though most of the time skarm will get sacked'). Sets up either speed or attack depending on the situation. I'll run calcs later
    STAB Eq hits so hard its not even funny. SE Takes out flying threats with ease. SD/RP to set up atk/spe respectively.

    This DOES leave is with a rain weakness having nothing to take a hydropump. Acknowledged that can be fixed next nom/vote.

    +2 252+ Atk Life Orb Landorus-T Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 88+ Def Ferrothorn: 339-399 (96.3 - 113.35%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
    +2 252+ Atk Landorus-T Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 88+ Def Ferrothorn: 261-307 (74.14 - 87.21%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
    +2 252+ Atk Life Orb Landorus-T Stone Edge vs. 224 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 191-226 (58.4 - 69.11%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
    +2 252+ Atk Landorus-T Stone Edge vs. 224 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 147-174 (44.95 - 53.21%) -- 92.58% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
    +2 252+ Atk Life Orb Landorus-T Stone Edge vs. 224 HP / 32 Def Skarmory: 246-290 (75.22 - 88.68%) -- 6.25% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
    +2 252+ Atk Landorus-T Stone Edge vs. 224 HP / 32 Def Skarmory: 189-223 (57.79 - 68.19%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
    +2 252+ Atk Life Orb Landorus-T Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Latias: 368-434 (101.09 - 119.23%) -- guaranteed OHKO
    +2 252+ Atk Landorus-T Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Latias: 283-334 (77.74 - 91.75%) -- 31.25% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock

    Things we would have to counter/deal with:
    Target Best Move Damage Next Best Damage
    Bronzong (OU Tank) Stone Edge 38.16 - 44.67% Earthquake 0 - 0%
    Bronzong (OU Dual Screens) Stone Edge 43.78 - 51.47% Earthquake 0 - 0%
    Cresselia (OU Support) Stone Edge 47.97 - 56.75% Earthquake 0 - 0%
    Quagsire (OU Physically Defensive) Earthquake 51.52 - 60.65% Stone Edge 17.25 - 20.3%
    Tangrowth (OU Physically Defensive Tank) Stone Edge 51.48 - 60.89% Earthquake 38.61 - 45.54%

    Rest are 2hko'd ez.

    Defensive calcs:

    0 SpA Bronzong Hidden Power Ice vs. 48 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-T: 204-240 (61.63 - 72.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
    -1 0 Atk Bronzong Gyro Ball (74 BP) vs. 48 HP / 0 Def Landorus-T: 54-64 (16.31 - 19.33%) -- possible 5HKO after Stealth Rock
    4 SpA Cresselia Ice Beam vs. 48 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-T: 264-312 (79.75 - 94.25%) -- 43.75% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
    0 SpA Quagsire Scald vs. 48 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-T: 146-174 (44.1 - 52.56%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
    0 SpA Tangrowth Hidden Power Ice vs. 48 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-T: 264-312 (79.75 - 94.25%) -- 43.75% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
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    alright guys don't shoot me im not good at making any teams really but ill give a shot i think this pokemon hasn't been mention in awhile and i think this pokemon should be nominated for the team....



    Starmie

    Ability: Analytic
    Nature: Timid
    item: leftovers

    Hydro Pump
    Psyshock
    Ice Beam
    Rapid Spin

    252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

    Alright guys i think starmie should be a good choice to be honest for this team its special attack and its speed imo i sutible for sweeping as well as im pretty sure this team may need a counter to keldeo,breloom,tentacool, and other threats which im sure is still heavily used in the OU teir...Starmie has outstanding special attack with psyshock instead over thunderbolt would take more coverage of the game imo which can outbeat specially defensive pokemon no problem. Ice Beam is the greatest edition to 2KO alot of dragons and grass pokemon which covers that besides a few others like ferrothorn. I can't get enough we need a rapid spinner though as well on this team i think cuaz we all know stealth rocks and spikes can be pain when switching which starmie is one of the best OU spinners in the game. Analytic ability actually i think should be a better choice as well to give this set more power and give it combined with it speed and special attack...I think guys this set may work well in the team as well as I think we may need more counter advantage as well...I just feel starmie will do well in this team....

    so yeah thought i try to put in my two cents for a nomination for you guys even if you think it totally think its not right XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by FairyWitch View Post
    alright guys don't shoot me im not good at making any teams really but ill give a shot i think this pokemon hasn't been mention in awhile and i think this pokemon should be nominated for the team....



    Starmie

    Ability: Analytic
    item: leftovers

    Hydro Pump
    Psyshock
    Ice Beam
    Rapid Spin

    252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

    Alright guys i think starmie should be a good choice to be honest for this team its special attack and its speed imo i sutible for sweeping as well as im pretty sure this team may need a counter to keldeo,breloom,tentacool, and other threats which im sure is still heavily used in the OU teir...Starmie has outstanding special attack with psyshock instead over thunderbolt would take more coverage of the game imo which can outbeat specially defensive pokemon no problem. Ice Beam is the greatest edition to 2KO alot of dragons and grass pokemon which covers that besides a few others like ferrothorn. I can't get enough we need a rapid spinner though as well on this team i think cuaz we all know stealth rocks and spikes can be pain when switching which starmie is one of the best OU spinners in the game. Analytic ability actually i think should be a better choice as well to give this set more power and give it combined with it speed and special attack...I think guys this set may work well in the team as well as I think we may need more counter advantage as well...I just feel starmie will do well in this team....

    so yeah thought i try to put in my two cents for a nomination for you guys even if you think it totally think its not right XD
    Actually, Natural Cure could be a better choice than Analytic for the Starmie set you suggested, also I think Thunderbolt (or Thunder if we lean towards rain) can be used over Psyshock as they both hit Keldeo and Tentacruel hard (although Psyshock should remain an option) as it would fit alongside Ice Beam for coverage.

    Analytic Starmie usually runs HP Fire for Ferrothorn switch-ins and usually Rapid Spin is given up then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuoteMaster View Post
    Actually, Natural Cure could be a better choice than Analytic for the Starmie set you suggested, also I think Thunderbolt (or Thunder if we lean towards rain) can be used over Psyshock as they both hit Keldeo and Tentacruel hard (although Psyshock should remain an option) as it would fit alongside Ice Beam for coverage.

    Analytic Starmie usually runs HP Fire for Ferrothorn switch-ins and usually Rapid Spin is given up then.
    well i think anyone would choose natural cure over analytic but we don't want to have a ability that everyone could perdict would we? i don't think so so i think analytic would be a good surprise as well as it will give it a chance to 2KO more then usual...it may be risky but i think it may have a chance...I just feel natural cure is used to much and we need a surprise change to starmie...its your guys vote though...i just want to do my part in trying XD

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    Mmk Fairy the starmie is cute, but it is time to bring in the bigboy himself.






    Bellsprout
    Ability:Chlorophyll
    Timid
    Item:Eviolite

    Giga drain
    Sludge Bomb
    Sunny Day
    Growth

    252 sp attack/252speed

    Bellsprout is a threat in OU nobody wants to switch into this bigboys attacks! Sunny day is for those pesky rain teams, getting double speed in the sunlight, and setting up with growth! Eviolite for a bit extra bulk for those little defenses. Boosted Giga drain will 2KO most mono waters restoring your HP! Like seriously bellsprout is such a threat it is not even on the smogon damage calculator so yea no calculations, but who needs em when you are this powerful?! Also this isn't serious so don't vote for it(hints: the lazy description.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrasticPhase View Post



    Breloom@Life Orb
    Nature: Adamant
    Ability: Technician
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    - Spore
    - Swords Dance
    - Bullet Seed
    - Mach Punch

    By far one of my favorite sweepers in the OU metagame. If given a chance to Swords Dance and counters are weaken, you are most likely going to win, and some people I battled with my Loom team can agree on this.
    Lets start talking about the set. I chose Adamant > Jolly since most of the time, you will just Mach Punch. Ability is obvious, to power up Mach Punch and Bullet Seed. Life Orb just makes it scarier. Spore IS one of the best moves in the game. Swords Dance just made its Attack power to insane levels. Bullet Seed and Mach Punch are just STAB moves and the latter is for priority.
    For one thing, It would really love some Rocks and Spikes support to make those 2HKOs to OHKOs

    #Breloom4President2013
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    @Eevee, shouldn't you run Quiet w/ 0 Speed IVs if you run Analytic? The only common thing(base speed) that gets a boost is Alakzam, but they usually hold a Sash. So that's quite redundant.

    @Silent, #Bellsprout4Mayor2013

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilentReaper View Post
    Mmk Fairy the starmie is cute, but it is time to bring in the bigboy himself.






    Bellsprout
    Ability:Chlorophyll
    Item:Eviolite

    Giga drain
    Sludge Bomb
    Sunny Day
    Growth

    252 sp attack/252speed

    Bellsprout is a threat in OU nobody wants to switch into this bigboys attacks! Sunny day is for those pesky rain teams, getting double speed in the sunlight, and setting up with growth! Eviolite for a bit extra bulk for those little defenses. Boosted Giga drain will 2KO most mono waters restoring your HP! Like seriously bellsprout is such a threat it is not even on the smogon damage calculator so yea no calculations, but who needs em when you are this powerful?! Also this isn't serious so don't vote for it(hints: the lazy description.)
    I am voting for this... since the basis was stolen from me


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    Regardless of the weather we pick, Gravity Starmie is an absolute beast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FairyWitch View Post
    alright guys don't shoot me im not good at making any teams really but ill give a shot i think this pokemon hasn't been mention in awhile and i think this pokemon should be nominated for the team....



    Starmie

    Ability: Analytic
    item: leftovers

    Hydro Pump
    Psyshock
    Ice Beam
    Rapid Spin

    252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

    Alright guys i think starmie should be a good choice to be honest for this team its special attack and its speed imo i sutible for sweeping as well as im pretty sure this team may need a counter to keldeo,breloom,tentacool, and other threats which im sure is still heavily used in the OU teir...Starmie has outstanding special attack with psyshock instead over thunderbolt would take more coverage of the game imo which can outbeat specially defensive pokemon no problem. Ice Beam is the greatest edition to 2KO alot of dragons and grass pokemon which covers that besides a few others like ferrothorn. I can't get enough we need a rapid spinner though as well on this team i think cuaz we all know stealth rocks and spikes can be pain when switching which starmie is one of the best OU spinners in the game. Analytic ability actually i think should be a better choice as well to give this set more power and give it combined with it speed and special attack...I think guys this set may work well in the team as well as I think we may need more counter advantage as well...I just feel starmie will do well in this team....

    so yeah thought i try to put in my two cents for a nomination for you guys even if you think it totally think its not right XD
    I really need to try out Analytic Starmie now that I know how it works.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrasticPhase View Post
    Renominating Breloom <3

    @Eevee, shouldn't you run Quiet w/ 0 Speed IVs if you run Analytic? The only common thing(base speed) that gets a boost is Alakzam, but they usually hold a Sash. So that's quite redundant.

    @Silent, #Bellsprout4Mayor2013

    And yay Custap Skarm!
    Two things. One: If you renom, please make it a new post. (Just take out the quote tags).
    Two: Analytic kicks in on switches, which means Starmie can 2HKO a lot more things such as Latios. So yeah, it is a monster sometimes lol

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    ignore the e in the last line



    @Drastic - No, Analytic gives you a power boost on the switch, changing a 3hko to a 2hko on Jelli switch, the most common switch in on Starmie. The point is to get a boost on switches, and Natural Cure only helps with status, which people usually don't inflict on Starmie because of Natural Cure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrasticPhase View Post
    Renominating Breloom <3

    @Eevee, shouldn't you run Quiet w/ 0 Speed IVs if you run Analytic? The only common thing(base speed) that gets a boost is Alakzam, but they usually hold a Sash. So that's quite redundant.

    @Silent, #Bellsprout4Mayor2013

    And yay Custap Skarm!
    well **** i meant to put in the nature it will be timid nature and no the point of analytic isn't for what many think it is...its more of a surprise but natural cure can be used but still...the main point is to get the opponent off guard with that ability...

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    Analytic boost when there is a switch o.o? Never knew that. I learned something new everyday, lol.
    I just always thought it only boosts when moved last.

    Renom:





    Breloom@Life Orb
    Nature: Adamant
    Ability: Technician
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    - Spore
    - Swords Dance
    - Bullet Seed
    - Mach Punch

    By far one of my favorite sweepers in the OU metagame. If given a chance to Swords Dance and counters are weaken, you are most likely going to win, and some people I battled with my Loom team can agree on this.
    Lets start talking about the set. I chose Adamant > Jolly since most of the time, you will just Mach Punch. Ability is obvious, to power up Mach Punch and Bullet Seed. Life Orb just makes it scarier. Spore IS one of the best moves in the game. Swords Dance just made its Attack power to insane levels. Bullet Seed and Mach Punch are just STAB moves and the latter is for priority.
    For one thing, It would really love some Rocks and Spikes support to make those 2HKOs to OHKOs

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    Renoming because Quote told me to.




    Latias (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 4 Def / 252 HP / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature
    - Calm Mind
    - Dragon Pulse
    - Recover
    - Reflect Type



    Mmmk, meet Reflect Type Latias.

    Why Reflect type? Well, you know how CM Latias always gets destroyed by TTar? Not this CM Latias. Reflect Type gives Latias the same typing as TTar, meaning it becomes Rock/Dark and resists his Pursuit/Crunch, can Recover off the damage and then continue to CM.

    CM Latias also gives you a handy Steel/Grass typing against rain teams with Ferrothorn, who can only TWave Latias.

    Latias can already have a field day against Sun Teams, with Reflect type it can easily set up on it's supposed-to-be counters in Sand offense (TTar) and rain whatever (Ferrothorn), meaning it can deal with a lot of weather teams and be on any type of weather team.

    Dark/Rock
    252+ Atk Choice Band Tyranitar Crunch vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Latias: 120-141 (32.96 - 38.73%) -- 7.62% chance to 3HKO

    Bug/Steel
    252+ Atk Choice Band Scizor U-turn vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Latias: 102-121 (28.02 - 33.24%) -- possible 4HKO


    You get bulk, nice counters to weather teams, and can beat it's 'counters'.

    Building a team around it could be pretty neat, you can get some Pokes that remove some annoying Pokemon and still have a decent team.

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