The Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual Alliance Club

[FlyShyGuy]

I've only read the first book of Twilight but I didn't like it - it just wasn't that interesting. Most of the characters lacked dimension and the grammatical errors were distracting, aside from all the plotholes. Unless I was missing something, I thought it was pretty awful.

I also saw the whole "Alex reads Twilight" thing on Youtube - kinda sums everything about the book up really.

From what I've heard about the film, many people like it because "The people in it are fit." I don't think much more needs to be said.

To Kill a Mockingbird was a good book. We studied it for our English Lit exam and I thought it was excellent. Plus, it's also one of thoe books you can read over and over again very easily - I probably felt this way because we had to study it in depth though

[.Bambi.]

Puss n' Boots.
I'm seeing it with my fam, so that makes up for it being a childish kitty movie.

Umm...I saw it with a group friends all in their 20's. So whatchu talkin'? :/

I thought it was pretty hilarious. Granted, I saw it incredibly baked...but still. When Humpty-Dumpty was like "I was ALWAYS there!" and in the montage it shows him dressed in a furry cat suit, we absolutely LOST IT. Too good! The movie wasn't too spectacular but it kept me entertained. And there were actually some really funny parts in it. I doubt anything in the Puss and Boots series will be as good as Shrek 2, though. That movie is the best in the entire franchise.



As for Twilight: I read all the books and have seen all the movies so far. I am definitely going to see Breaking Dawn when it comes out in a week. I enjoyed the books, but I think people take them wayyy too seriously. I feel like they should be seen as one of those shmaltzy romance novels with sci-fy elements mixed in [because that's pretty much what they are].

Bella Swan is probably the most annoying protagonist I've ever had the displeasure of reading. I got really tired of her relying on everyone else to protect her [though she did get mildly better when she turned into a vampire in the last book]. Despite her HORRIBLE acting, I think it was a good choice to have Kristen Stewart play Bella because she's equally as unlikable as her character.

[Willow's Tara]

I found Twilight boring as well..

*Sighs* I want to say something and I hope it doesn't come out wrong. But with marriage.. why are people fighting for or against it? Gay and Straight marriage, both of it. It doesn't matter if you are gay, lesbian, bisexual, straight etc, if you get married chances are you probably wouldn't be together until death do us apart And children, please give me a break having two parents regardless of genders has nothing to do with it, many of them don't even have a father or mother, or have parents split up. Sometimes.. I got to wonder what's the point? Christians fight for the "sanctity" of marriage, homosexuals fight to gain equal rights in marriage. But why does everyone want it so badly, when all it's ever going to do is half of the time end in ruins.

I don't know where this is all coming from really, earlier tonight I was in an alright mood but now I am just in a crummy mood, tomorrow I will probably look at this post and think it's stupid. As many of you may know my parents split up a year ago, and my mother's dating a guy.. who is living here, and it's kinda hard for me.

I look at how my mother has five children with four different fathers. One of my aunts has the almost the same amount as well. And looking at my family, they all seemed to be sucky at relationships, okay my parents weren't married but that's not the point. I also recently found out one of my aunts broke up with my uncle, so that also sucks as well (Okay they broke up two years ago, I only just found out like two weeks ago).

And then I count the friends, mostly non Christians on my friendlist on Facebook and see they have separated families as well. Heck, something tells me my favorite actress even has separated parents.

I guess this is also because one of my Christian friend posted another "Save Marriage" post, and something to do with children involving it. And I was thinking Why? Why save something that isn't even sacred about it, why does it matter what sexuality you are, marriage is just a load of bullocks anyways. And I bet some Christians parents are even unhappy with their marriages because they feel forced to stay, due to some sin about divorce I guess. (Unless that's another religion).

I really want to get married someday, to be with the woman I love until the day I die, and then for all eternity and there's this one girl I would really like that to be with. But even if she's Christian could that happen? Or is marriage just.. ugh.

I don't know, I guess it's one of those nights where your mind goes somewhere else and overthinks about stuff. Even without marriage, relationships can be tricky. If you listened to my rant congratulations, since I probably didn't make any sense at all.

[Swordsman of Kairnestar]

> Twilight
> Sci-fi
> Twilight
> Sci-fi
> Twilight
> Sci-fi

*suddenly, many geeks fall over from cardiac arrest, Kairne included*

Twilight's not sci-fi, hun. It's fantasy through and through. In fact, the whole story is Meyer's fantasy wish fulfillment. I do wonder if her husband has read it, though. Because if he has not, he should. And if he has, I am not sure how they are not divorced. It's obvious by her writing that she has literally fallen in love with Edward Cullen, far more than she could ever connect to a real person. A couple-few theories:

1) Edward represents her ideal man, her obviously having skewed perceptions of what is and is not healthy in a relationship.

2) Edward's original characterization was drawn from her husband, and the additions made to his characterization after, that is, the abusive, controlling, obsessive side, represent who she wants her husband to become. More moral dissonance.

3) Edward is, in fact, her husband, down to every passive-aggressive, overbearing, over-controlling, abusive detail. his caged bird sings, not to be set free, but because she sees it all as romantic. Possibly she hated it at first, but developed a mix between battered wife and Stockholm. Bella herself may or may not have Stockholm (context seems fairly compatible with that)

4) Same as above, with one difference: she sings not of joy, but so some may see her struggle and help. The baby in the final installment represents the principle of family that her religious background will not allow her to actively seek sanctuary from her abusive boyfriend. Possibly, even, Edward is even less domineering, and so she seeks solace in the one safe place for her, her books.

Now, I have spoken a lot about the Edward/Isabella relationship, and how just plain wrong it is. I, myself, am in a type of relationship that does indeed have a set power dynamic. And yet, I find Edward's abuse of Bella's trust and her wishes truly despicable.

@WT
Interesting argument. I would say we want marriage because it's a way to show each other, ourselves, our community, our governments, and, if applicable, our respective deity(ies), that you and another person really do care for each other in a way that transcends time, that you and that person you love can withstand the challenges of life together, knowing you're never alone. As a gay man, I believe that if I am ready to take the plunge with the man I love, my government should respect that on equal footing with a heterosexual couple. It's been an established institution since before even the Abrahamic religions, my Pagan roots are heavy with not only marriage, but same-gender marriage as well. In fact, Druids such as I am have for a long time practiced marriage in threes, as three is the perfect magick number. Marriage, quite frankly, is a landmark in relationships where, if you both/all three/etc are all committed to it, you effectively live as a cohesive unit, almost as if one person at times.

I mean, there's also legal rights along with marriage, and the issue of the fallicious "separate but equal", but I figured you wanted to know the emotional and societal reasons.

[Sucker_Punch]

> Twilight
> Sci-fi
> Twilight
> Sci-fi
> Twilight
> Sci-fi

*suddenly, many geeks fall over from cardiac arrest, Kairne included*

Twilight's not sci-fi, hun. It's fantasy through and through. In fact, the whole story is Meyer's fantasy wish fulfillment. I do wonder if her husband has read it, though. Because if he has not, he should. And if he has, I am not sure how they are not divorced. It's obvious by her writing that she has literally fallen in love with Edward Cullen, far more than she could ever connect to a real person. A couple-few theories:

1) Edward represents her ideal man, her obviously having skewed perceptions of what is and is not healthy in a relationship.

2) Edward's original characterization was drawn from her husband, and the additions made to his characterization after, that is, the abusive, controlling, obsessive side, represent who she wants her husband to become. More moral dissonance.

3) Edward is, in fact, her husband, down to every passive-aggressive, overbearing, over-controlling, abusive detail. his caged bird sings, not to be set free, but because she sees it all as romantic. Possibly she hated it at first, but developed a mix between battered wife and Stockholm. Bella herself may or may not have Stockholm (context seems fairly compatible with that)

4) Same as above, with one difference: she sings not of joy, but so some may see her struggle and help. The baby in the final installment represents the principle of family that her religious background will not allow her to actively seek sanctuary from her abusive boyfriend. Possibly, even, Edward is even less domineering, and so she seeks solace in the one safe place for her, her books.

Now, I have spoken a lot about the Edward/Isabella relationship, and how just plain wrong it is. I, myself, am in a type of relationship that does indeed have a set power dynamic. And yet, I find Edward's abuse of Bella's trust and her wishes truly despicable.

I think you're reding far too deeply into this...

[Swordsman of Kairnestar]

I had to display that I had far more than just a basic working knowledge of Twilight, that I have read, and read in between the lines, and I have formed opinions based in-depth on the content at hand. In my experience, the most common defense I receive when I say I do not like Twilight is either of the "you haven't read it" or the "you don't understand" variety, so I automatically tend to show that I do, indeed, understand the themes of Twilight, and have read each book in-depth several times.

My ex, who was the one that coerced me into watching Twilight and New Moon, has probably seen Twilight over a thousand times, and I am not using hyperbole. He saw it in theatres ~50-60 times, and brought someone along each time (never me, although we were dating at the time)

[Elysian]

I like Twilight n__n

[Willow's Tara]

Alpha- Yeah true, although I think I was just being a bit silly. Sometimes I feel that way though, which is stupid. I used to be all about Love and marriage, and that getting wedding was a symbol of love and that relationships could last from high school to even eternity. Guess sometimes it's hard growing up lol, I just hate I have lost pieces of myself, and pray I don't lose everything about me. I feel like the church has brought many pieces of myself back, but not completely, not whole.

Especially when it comes to Homosexuality and Gay marriage. On Facebook you know all these questions people keep asking all of a sudden? From Do you agree with Homosexuality to what sauce do you keep in the cupboard?

Everytime I see them (Mostly my Christian friends selecting No on Should gay couples get married? But seeing other friends selecting Yes) I want to click them. But then I don't, why? Because I am afraid some of those friends will see it and then something will start. Only two Christian friends even know where I stand with this subject, or they will act badly or something.

But before that I used to click Yes all the time, the Christians do talk about gay marriage, not in the services themselves but I usually go quiet, when I used to defend it forever.

While I feel like I am becoming maybe whole again, that piece feels like it's drifting away. And it's ridiculous because they will probably not even care, they probably would accept it and even debate with me but not stop becoming friends. I have seen a topic (Not even sure what it was, Sabbath or something) in the FB's church page where they are all disagreeing and agreeing with each other but they all seem to keep it nice and polite, and being friends etc. So I am probably just being an idiot, reeling still from high school when friends who I thought were friends backstabbed me.

[7 tyranitars]

At WT, If they start a serious fight about something like that, then mayby they aren't really friends at all :S. Eitherway if you feel like clicking yes, then you shouldn't be afraid to voice your opinion. Either way don't be afraid .

[Willow's Tara]

Tyranitar- That is true, maybe they won't or even notice/care about it. There has been tons of times when I am afraid of doing or saying something that could be a big deal, and turns out to be no problem.

That can actually be another topic: Do you think you could be friends with a Christian, or anyone who disagrees with homosexuality? (Provided they don't kill or bash one up), I mean there are some I am sure that won't always try to change your opinion or ways. because they understand.

[7 tyranitars]

Tyranitar- That is true, maybe they won't or even notice/care about it. There has been tons of times when I am afraid of doing or saying something that could be a big deal, and turns out to be no problem

Only fear, fear itself.

That can actually be another topic: Do you think you could be friends with a Christian, or anyone who disagrees with homosexuality? (Provided they don't kill or bash one up), I mean there are some I am sure that won't always try to change your opinion or ways. because they understand.

No idea, never met someone like that. :P Might be harder to get to a friendship if I know before hand then if we are already friends.

[Willow's Tara]

Tyranitar- Yeah I mean I knew they would be against Gay marriage and probably believe it's a sin, but I still gave it a shot and once you get passed the opinion on Homosexuality the people in my church are quite decent people. The least likely people to backstab me, hurt me, pretend we are friends and then act disgusted when I even ask the question, or go around hurting my friends and telling them they had no friends causing them to run off to some country where I cannot say I am sorry for our previous fight.

Sorry referring to my past, I am not saying all Christians are good and all, there's some people in the church that I don't too well, feel a little awkward to (Only one person, long story) but yeah, I mean once you get to know them they are rather nice people who have changed my life. And I can learn to accept their flaws and opinions if they are willing to accept mine. The thing is people also judge Christians much as they judge Homosexuals and the rest of the world, yes Christians are the worse when it comes to it but not everyone is the same.

[Sir DJ]

That can actually be another topic: Do you think you could be friends with a Christian, or anyone who disagrees with homosexuality? (Provided they don't kill or bash one up), I mean there are some I am sure that won't always try to change your opinion or ways. because they understand.

Well I was a christian, and kicked out (disfellowshipped) for being gay.......not a single one talks to me, it's kinda sad. But I'm sure not all christians are like that.

[#chelloressurection]

Tyranitar- That is true, maybe they won't or even notice/care about it. There has been tons of times when I am afraid of doing or saying something that could be a big deal, and turns out to be no problem.

That can actually be another topic: Do you think you could be friends with a Christian, or anyone who disagrees with homosexuality? (Provided they don't kill or bash one up), I mean there are some I am sure that won't always try to change your opinion or ways. because they understand.

I kinda hide it up that im bi, because I already have to deal with the whole immigration, irish stereotypes and jewish stereotypes, and I cant take on bi stereotypes, but I have a small group of friends, who suspect it already, but they are jewish anyways, grr im confusing!!!

[FlyShyGuy]

That can actually be another topic: Do you think you could be friends with a Christian, or anyone who disagrees with homosexuality? (Provided they don't kill or bash one up), I mean there are some I am sure that won't always try to change your opinion or ways. because they understand.

Depends what type of Christian you're talking about (Catholic or Protestant?). I personally haven't ever come across any strict catholic Christians in my own country. If they were too religious, then I probably couldn't be friends with them (being an Protestant Christian/Atheist gay person:P). I'd be encouraged to debate with them, but it probably wouldn't end well. I know a fair few religious people (not strict Christians, but they still go to church/sunday school/read the bible) who are friends, and accept me for being gay.

I probably couldn't befriend a homophobic person either. If it was someone who felt disgusted by the sexual act, but didn't have a problem with the concept itself, then yeah, that's understandable. However, if it was somebody who disagreed with the concept of homosexuality as a whole, and was vocal about it, then no, I probably couldn't befriend them (I'd probably get locked into a debate, and try to convince them otherwise).

[The Eleventh]

My crush stuck a piece of tape with "Kiss me" on it on my back today.

TOO MANY MIXED MESSAGES! D:

[#chelloressurection]

I have been scrutinized. Alot of people dont even know im apart of this, but on xats, just calling me fa* and worse, alot of people are mean, my question for the group is:

Have you been at deaths door for being gay/bi/lesbo etc.

To answer, just a few minutes ago this happened on a xat, I talked to my parents, and even told them I almost chocked myself. Have you ever been this way?

[Spookz]

Have you been at deaths door for being gay/bi/lesbo etc.

To answer, just a few minutes ago this happened on a xat, I talked to my parents, and even told them I almost chocked myself. Have you ever been this way?

Not as a direct result of being gay, no. I've had my problems with my sexuality, but I've been blessed in that the people around me generally support me.

For other reasons.. yes.

[Sir DJ]

I was beaten up for being gay....but not close enough to kill me thank goodness.

Although if you include suicide because of that sort of thing....then I've been close I guess.

[7 tyranitars]

Nope never, mainly because nobody know I am bi :P, even if they did... come at me braw.

[Elysian]

Today at school, we had an assignment where ew could use whatever theme we wanted.
Me and my best friend made a presentationabout Stalking.
We're good at that, and spent most of the day stalking this insainly hot guy she likes.
we took lots of pictures without him knowing, and made a quite good presentation.

Is it kinda weird that we like the same guy?

[The Eleventh]

Is it kinda weird that we like the same guy?

No, but the stalking certainly is. O_O

[Swordsman of Kairnestar]

> No, but the stalking certainly is. O_O

This.

[7 tyranitars]

No, but the stalking certainly is. O_O

Was about to say the same ..

[Elysian]

................. I have weird friends, okey?
And you are wh you accociate with.
Aka: I'm a stalker, nice to meet you.

Besides, the teacher approved x)