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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryubane View Post
    How does my 14-year-old sister get to go on a double date this Friday, yet I'm not allowed to be within touching distance of anybody?

    Anybody as in regardless of gender. My mother simply refuses to allow me to have any social contact. I need my friends around me and my mom flips her lid every time I mention leaving the house to go visit someone for a couple of hours. Yet my sister (age 14, this is important) gets to go wherever the hell she pleases with whoever the hell she wants, whenever the hell she wants. This simply does not make sense, even considering that neither of my parents know I'm gay and that my sister is straight as an arrow. This has nothing to do with orientation, this is just pure ignorance as far as I'm concerned. fmll
    That's awful. Try talking to your parents, but do it calmly. Just find out why they won't let you.

    Quote Originally Posted by fuyu-seetaa View Post
    Hey, here is a perplexing question for you, I'm curious to know what others would say...

    Let's say you're in the opposite gender, females are males and males are females. Is your sexual orientation the same, even if you were different genders? (Example: A girl is a lesbian. So in this she would be male. Would he still point to girls [and be straight] or, instead, point to boys [and be gay]?)

    For some reason, if I ever think about it, if I were to be a male... I'd want to be with another male.
    That's an interesting question. I'm honestly not sure. If I was a girl with the same mindset as I have now, I'd probably still be attracted to men. But I really don't know. It depends in what sense. If I was changed to a girl, I could be just me...except a girl, like a gay girl. Or I could be the same, just with a slightly different view point, and have the same sexual attractions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manafi's Dream View Post
    There is some evidence that suggests in a family with multiple males children (2+), the chances that the younger children are gay are even higher. It's on Youtube, something about what is gay or gayness in science

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKqKsXdokCM
    this is very interesting (and kind of funny) and I am the oldest one in my family, I have a younger sister, so that theory does not apply to me. I think the reason I'm gay might be because when I was young (like 3-7 years old) my dad was never around, and I was always with my mother and aunt and grandmother and did girly things and all my friends were girls. When I was like 5 I remember all my friends were girls, I played with dolls, my favorite color was pink, I played dress up (I dressed as a princess) with my girl friends, and well my parents tried to change me, and their efforts kind of worked, but... not really >:3

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryubane View Post
    How does my 14-year-old sister get to go on a double date this Friday, yet I'm not allowed to be within touching distance of anybody?

    Anybody as in regardless of gender. My mother simply refuses to allow me to have any social contact. I need my friends around me and my mom flips her lid every time I mention leaving the house to go visit someone for a couple of hours. Yet my sister (age 14, this is important) gets to go wherever the hell she pleases with whoever the hell she wants, whenever the hell she wants. This simply does not make sense, even considering that neither of my parents know I'm gay and that my sister is straight as an arrow. This has nothing to do with orientation, this is just pure ignorance as far as I'm concerned. fmll
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    well I came out on facebook and people are happy for me but my dad yelled at me for it and told me I half to take it down cuz he said no one will hire me now and I can't get excepted into a college. also he said cuz I am bi no one will want to date me but I don't care what he thinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice_wolf-146 View Post
    well I came out on facebook and people are happy for me but my dad yelled at me for it and told me I half to take it down cuz he said no one will hire me now and I can't get excepted into a college. also he said cuz I am bi no one will want to date me but I don't care what he thinks.
    Good for you, doesn't matter what he says. Prove him wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuyu-seetaa View Post
    Hey, here is a perplexing question for you, I'm curious to know what others would say...

    Let's say you're in the opposite gender, females are males and males are females. Is your sexual orientation the same, even if you were different genders? (Example: A girl is a lesbian. So in this she would be male. Would he still point to girls [and be straight] or, instead, point to boys [and be gay]?)

    For some reason, if I ever think about it, if I were to be a male... I'd want to be with another male.
    If I was a chick... I think I would still like guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuyu-seetaa View Post
    Hey, here is a perplexing question for you, I'm curious to know what others would say...

    Let's say you're in the opposite gender, females are males and males are females. Is your sexual orientation the same, even if you were different genders? (Example: A girl is a lesbian. So in this she would be male. Would he still point to girls [and be straight] or, instead, point to boys [and be gay]?)

    For some reason, if I ever think about it, if I were to be a male... I'd want to be with another male.
    Hmm, that is tricky. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say that if I were a girl I would be bisexual. But that's a tough question to pin down, so I'm just going sheerly off of what I think would best suit me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fuyu-seetaa View Post
    Hey, here is a perplexing question for you, I'm curious to know what others would say...

    Let's say you're in the opposite gender, females are males and males are females. Is your sexual orientation the same, even if you were different genders? (Example: A girl is a lesbian. So in this she would be male. Would he still point to girls [and be straight] or, instead, point to boys [and be gay]?)

    For some reason, if I ever think about it, if I were to be a male... I'd want to be with another male.
    If I were female, I think I'd still be attracted to guys. I don't think my attraction would change. Not that I'd ever want to be female. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by ice_wolf-146 View Post
    well I came out on facebook and people are happy for me but my dad yelled at me for it and told me I half to take it down cuz he said no one will hire me now and I can't get excepted into a college. also he said cuz I am bi no one will want to date me but I don't care what he thinks.
    Ridiculous. There's definitely nothing stopping you getting into college, and certainly nothing harming your chances of getting a job (homophobia in the workplace is outlawed, right?). You've got the possibility of dating everyone, as you're bi. I really don't see his points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuyu-seetaa View Post
    Hey, here is a perplexing question for you, I'm curious to know what others would say...

    Let's say you're in the opposite gender, females are males and males are females. Is your sexual orientation the same, even if you were different genders? (Example: A girl is a lesbian. So in this she would be male. Would he still point to girls [and be straight] or, instead, point to boys [and be gay]?)

    For some reason, if I ever think about it, if I were to be a male... I'd want to be with another male.
    If I was a female... probably still guys. Maybe I'm biased since I've lived so long as an openly gay man, but there's just something charming about men.

    Not that I would ever become a woman. I like being a guy too much, even if I am gay.

    Quote Originally Posted by ice_wolf-146 View Post
    well I came out on facebook and people are happy for me but my dad yelled at me for it and told me I half to take it down cuz he said no one will hire me now and I can't get excepted into a college. also he said cuz I am bi no one will want to date me but I don't care what he thinks.
    That's why i don't have Facebook. It just gets you into trouble.

    Anyways, I hope you told your dad to stuff it. That makes absolutely no sense. No company nowadays (except maybe Walmart) cares if you're gay or not - if they need a worker, they'll hire you. Colleges... are like the capitals for gay experiences, so why any public college would turn you down for being gay is completely unimaginable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryubane View Post
    How does my 14-year-old sister get to go on a double date this Friday, yet I'm not allowed to be within touching distance of anybody?

    Anybody as in regardless of gender. My mother simply refuses to allow me to have any social contact. I need my friends around me and my mom flips her lid every time I mention leaving the house to go visit someone for a couple of hours. Yet my sister (age 14, this is important) gets to go wherever the hell she pleases with whoever the hell she wants, whenever the hell she wants. This simply does not make sense, even considering that neither of my parents know I'm gay and that my sister is straight as an arrow. This has nothing to do with orientation, this is just pure ignorance as far as I'm concerned. fmll
    Uh... shouldn't your parents be more concerned about your 14 yo sister going out, getting drunk, using drugs, or God forbid, getting pregnant or catching something nasty. I hope they learn a lesson, but not at your sister's expense, because she's the one who will ultimately be hurt from not having any boundaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fused View Post
    Uh... shouldn't your parents be more concerned about your 14 yo sister going out, getting drunk, using drugs, or God forbid, getting pregnant or catching something nasty. I hope they learn a lesson, but not at your sister's expense, because she's the one who will ultimately be hurt from not having any boundaries.
    My point exactly. :/ Where is the logic in this? I'm usually respectful of my parents ideas, but I have to draw the line here. I'm almost 18, and I have to leave sometime. If they confine me to the house all the time, it's just going to be that much harder on them when the time comes. I don't understand this at all.

    And to those who have suggested I try talking to them, I'm sorry to say that I'd rather not. It may or may not make the situation better, but it seems that whenever the subject of dating, relationships, going out, etc., gets breached, my mom turns extremely confrontational and literally interrogates me about being "a f*ggot" (yes, she has called me that before, and I don't ever recall her actually using the word "gay" or "homosexual"). They (and the rest of my family by proxy) are among the most homophobic people I know, and I just don't know how I can talk about relationships, dating, gloing out, etc. without them immediately jumping to the inevitable "f*ggot" conclusion.


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    I'm glad some people contributed to answer my question. ^^

    I still find it odd, though... In this case would your sexuality still be a choice (like a man, even as a woman, still liking men)? Or is it just a matter of the gender you are attracted to? My own question confuses me, admittedly. If I were a guy, I might be... bi... but lean more towards males. I don't know why, isn't it odd? That's kind of how I am now, only backwards (female, leaning toward females).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryubane View Post
    My point exactly. :/ Where is the logic in this? I'm usually respectful of my parents ideas, but I have to draw the line here. I'm almost 18, and I have to leave sometime. If they confine me to the house all the time, it's just going to be that much harder on them when the time comes. I don't understand this at all.

    And to those who have suggested I try talking to them, I'm sorry to say that I'd rather not. It may or may not make the situation better, but it seems that whenever the subject of dating, relationships, going out, etc., gets breached, my mom turns extremely confrontational and literally interrogates me about being "a f*ggot" (yes, she has called me that before, and I don't ever recall her actually using the word "gay" or "homosexual"). They (and the rest of my family by proxy) are among the most homophobic people I know, and I just don't know how I can talk about relationships, dating, gloing out, etc. without them immediately jumping to the inevitable "f*ggot" conclusion.
    They really need to setup some guidelines in order for people to have kids. I'm sorry your family is a band of (excuse me) idiots. Hopefully, they'll come around.

    Quote Originally Posted by fuyu-seetaa View Post
    I'm glad some people contributed to answer my question. ^^

    I still find it odd, though... In this case would your sexuality still be a choice (like a man, even as a woman, still liking men)? Or is it just a matter of the gender you are attracted to? My own question confuses me, admittedly. If I were a guy, I might be... bi... but lean more towards males. I don't know why, isn't it odd? That's kind of how I am now, only backwards (female, leaning toward females).
    I don't think it would be a choice either way. Sexuality has a lot to do with your personality and emotional needs and wants as well as your physical ones rather than your biological sex - transsexuals (those who have actually changed their sex) could tell you. Like I said, I'd still probably be attracted to men.

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    thanks everyone I took down the satus about being bi but I left up that I like both men and women

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    Sorry it didn't work out for you, but at least you got it out there! Things will be easier once everything settles down. If you're lucky, they'll come to you. Unfortunately, that only happens for attractive people :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manafi's Dream View Post
    Sorry it didn't work out for you, but at least you got it out there! Things will be easier once everything settles down. If you're lucky, they'll come to you. Unfortunately, that only happens for attractive people :P
    thanks that means a lot a few friends have asked me if I am bi and I told them yes and they are happy for me. I want to get back my x-bf but he has only been on msn once since he got his stuff back but I have it all planed out how I will do it when I talk to him on msn next

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    Hopefully things will go well for you! :D
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    Hmm, I think I have a question of my own:

    What morals do you follow in a relationship or just in life? Do they change depending on your sexuality?

    I have several morals that I follow in life, some based on the Commandments:
    - Do not have sex before marriage
    - Do not use drugs
    - Do not drink or consume alcohol
    - Never steal what doesn't belong to you
    - When you argue with your parents, let it go as soon as you get hold of yourself
    - Never murder (a good one for everyone!)
    - Never commit suicide, no matter how depressing life gets (it's not the noble way to solve your problems)

    Does anyone else have a list of morals they keep mentally to lead a healthy life?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manafi's Dream View Post
    Hmm, I think I have a question of my own:

    What morals do you follow in a relationship or just in life? Do they change depending on your sexuality?

    I have several morals that I follow in life, some based on the Commandments:
    - Do not have sex before marriage
    - Do not use drugs

    - Do not drink or consume alcohol
    - Never steal what doesn't belong to you
    - When you argue with your parents, let it go as soon as you get hold of yourself
    - Never murder (a good one for everyone!)
    - Never commit suicide, no matter how depressing life gets (it's not the noble way to solve your problems)


    Does anyone else have a list of morals they keep mentally to lead a healthy life?
    I am not religious, but I do follow some of those morals mainly the ones highlighted in bold. However, I don't think my sexuality has anything to do with it.

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    I don't have a list of morals, but I think I might unconsciencely have a list of morals :P
    I'll tell you what I think about your morals manafi
    - Do not have sex before marriage
    This is probably a good idea, but if your gay and you CAN'T get married, isn't it accepatable to have sex before you get married? I haven't been in this kind of situation yet anyway, so I dont really know what to say about it. :/
    - Do not use drugs
    I have no intentions of ever using, or even trying harmful drugs.
    - Do not drink or consume alcohol
    I'm 13... and I have already (accidentaly) had my first drink. It was a complete accident, and if I knew it was an alcoholic drink I would have never drunk it. I don't plan on drinking, because it's fattening and addictive, and not good for you.
    - Never steal what doesn't belong to you
    No comment...
    - When you argue with your parents, let it go as soon as you get hold of yourself
    Hm... I have had to forget all the bad things my parents have done to me so many times that I don't really forgive them anymore, but the good thing is that I dont live with them anymore.
    - Never murder (a good one for everyone!)
    I would never murder somebody on purpose, unless it was to save myself or somebody close to me (in which case I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be considered a murder)
    - Never commit suicide, no matter how depressing life gets (it's not the noble way to solve your problems)
    I have considered suicide soooo many times, and I really want to kill myself, but don't worry. I don't have the balls to actually do it >.<

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    Well, let's hope you don't! Suicide would be horrible. I've mentally pictured the thought of drowning myself and thinking how horrible a way it is to die!

    Murder would only occur to me if someone perhaps physically threatened to kill my family. Then it would be self-defense and the law does not apply to those cases. My parents have always told me that shooting someone who runs away is considered illegal as they are running from you. They said if it happens, roll them over and do a double tap on their stomach :P

    I just thought of one more moral to add which probably no one follows:

    -No profanity!

    This one has not failed me yet!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manafi's Dream View Post
    Hmm, I think I have a question of my own:

    What morals do you follow in a relationship or just in life? Do they change depending on your sexuality?

    I have several morals that I follow in life, some based on the Commandments:
    - Do not have sex before marriage
    no comment lol
    - Do not use drugs
    I will never ever do drugs.
    - Do not drink or consume alcohol
    Yuck no i dont know how people can drink it
    - Never steal what doesn't belong to you
    I have never stolen and don't plan to

    - When you argue with your parents, let it go as soon as you get hold of yourself
    Sure I get angry but It goes away
    - Never murder (a good one for everyone!)
    I would never harm a life
    - Never commit suicide, no matter how depressing life gets (it's not the noble way to solve your problems)
    I have the thoughts but I know its not the answer.

    Does anyone else have a list of morals they keep mentally to lead a healthy life?
    Hmmm I believe thats about it for now. No cheating too!

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    Good thoughts! I see most people hold the same morals as I do.

    btw I love your sig spoiler
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    - Do not have sex before marriage
    Is it me or does this sound REALLY outlandish and old-fashioned? Maybe it's seen different in other countries, but I don't see any reason to follow this
    - Do not use drugs
    I will never intentionally use drugs.
    - Do not drink or consume alcohol
    Too late + I don't really like many alcoholic drinks. Since it's highly unprobable that I will become addicted to it, I don't see a reason to follow this either. I know it's bad, but people drink it all the time.
    - Never steal what doesn't belong to you
    Unless life puts me in some unrealistic position only seen in movies where you have no other choice, I'll never ever steal.
    - When you argue with your parents, let it go as soon as you get hold of yourself
    By the time I get hold of myself, I ussually already ran to my room xd
    - Never murder (a good one for everyone!)
    Unless it's to defend me or other people, of course not
    - Never commit suicide, no matter how depressing life gets (it's not the noble way to solve your problems)
    I love life too much. It ALWAYS gets better, better than suicide that is.

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    -Never do something that may traumatize other people. Or just never harm other people in general. (Unless they deserve it lol)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manafi's Dream View Post
    Good thoughts! I see most people hold the same morals as I do.

    btw I love your sig spoiler
    Hahaha thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by 705030 View Post
    - Do not have sex before marriage
    Is it me or does this sound REALLY outlandish and old-fashioned? Maybe it's seen different in other countries, but I don't see any reason to follow this
    It's religious purposes and the fact that STDs are so common these days :P
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