*Revamped RNG Discussion/Help Thread [Do not ask about Gen 6 RNG]

[dewey911p]

Thanks TDawg so you mean if the first eon timer says two minutes before 08:39:50 I would start the first timer & my DS clock at 08:37:50 right?

you would start it at 8:37:00 since starting it at 50 seconds past the minute is impossible. Just make sure to have 50 seconds in Eontimer so the timer can adjust (or the calibrated seconds if you know that yet)

Is there anyone here who has RNG'd their Roamer Shiny? I'm struggling at the moment to hit the exact frame. To give you the details
My Target is 869, I have done different numbers of Chatot Flips to find my pattern and think I have it.
If I do 245 advances 9 times out of 10 I was hitting what I believe is frame 866 (only frame with matching characteristics anywhere near)
If I do 246 advances I seem to be getting the frames between 873 and 880.
Therefore I'm sticking with the 245 advances, but my question is how do I get it to move the last 3 frames without doing another advance, is there a "BEST" way to mash A when you go outside to time the last few advances and when do I need to mash until?

Thanks

shiny roamers on BW suck, its straight guess and check because of the rain I'm afraid :/

[KiltedTrainer]

Wow, after about a month of on/off attempts to RNG a wild shiny/flawless (or near flawless) pokemon of any kind, I FINALLY did it with a Deino seed. I didn't care about nature though so it's a really weird Deino.

Near flawless (30/30/17/31/30/31) Shiny, level 38, Sassy! I know the nature doesn't help it much, but it's still the seed I tried to get and I finally hit it. I'm just shocked it finally worked. Wolveram and myself have had a few fluke Flawless RNGs that weren't shiny, but I was having so much trouble finding a shiny seed I could accurately hit.

Now to try and do these wild encounters more and then figure out the confusing crap regarding Egg RNGs... o.O

[dewey911p]

Wow, after about a month of on/off attempts to RNG a wild shiny/flawless (or near flawless) pokemon of any kind, I FINALLY did it with a Deino seed. I didn't care about nature though so it's a really weird Deino.

Near flawless (30/30/17/31/30/31) Shiny, level 38, Sassy! I know the nature doesn't help it much, but it's still the seed I tried to get and I finally hit it. I'm just shocked it finally worked. I'd had a few fluke Flawless RNGs that weren't shiny, but I was having so much trouble finding a shiny seed I could accurately hit.

Now to try and do these wild encounters more and then figure out the confusing crap regarding Egg RNGs... o.O

congratulations! For what its worth, egg RNGing is, IMO, easier then wild RNGing. If you use flawless parents you will find more seeds, and you will find them a lot quicker too. As for advancing the frame, its just a few chatot flips and your done. there is no IV frame advancement and all you have to worry about is one NPC that is kinda slow and a Timer0 problem, but hey, thats out of our control. Good luck, it only gets easier from here

[Eeveelover824]

congratulations! For what its worth, egg RNGing is, IMO, easier then wild RNGing. If you use flawless parents you will find more seeds, and you will find them a lot quicker too. As for advancing the frame, its just a few chatot flips and your done. there is no IV frame advancement and all you have to worry about is one NPC that is kinda slow and a Timer0 problem, but hey, thats out of our control. Good luck, it only gets easier from here

I second to that answer I learned that first before even trying to rng wild LOL...it was at first confusing but then it was very easy...

[Agonist]

Wild Captures are essentially the same thing as egg breeds, actually. Granted, it takes a lot longer to find a good seed, and you have to a lot more chatot flips, but other than that...

[KiltedTrainer]

congratulations! For what its worth, egg RNGing is, IMO, easier then wild RNGing. If you use flawless parents you will find more seeds, and you will find them a lot quicker too. As for advancing the frame, its just a few chatot flips and your done. there is no IV frame advancement and all you have to worry about is one NPC that is kinda slow and a Timer0 problem, but hey, thats out of our control. Good luck, it only gets easier from here

I second to that answer I learned that first before even trying to rng wild LOL...it was at first confusing but then it was very easy...

Wild Captures are essentially the same thing as egg breeds, actually. Granted, it takes a lot longer to find a good seed, and you have to a lot more chatot flips, but other than that...

I totally didn't think that when I look through guides haha. That makes me really glad to hear though since I'm gonna RNG a few more wilds and then try to begin Egg RNG with an Eevee egg I have at the daycare, though I might just reset my entire breeding plan and start from scratch.

What might your best tips for egg RNG be for someone who gets the basics but hasn't successfully done so yet? (the starting frames and such are throwing me off still).

[Eeveelover824]

I totally didn't think that when I look through guides haha. That makes me really glad to hear though since I'm gonna RNG a few more wilds and then try to begin Egg RNG with an Eevee egg I have sitting around, though I might just reset my entire breeding plan and start from scratch.

What might your best tips for egg RNG be for someone who gets the basics but hasn't successfully done so yet? (the starting frames and such are throwing me off still).

for breeding the egg is determined by the time you pick up the egg and the chatot frames...so that eevee you have will hatch to what it was tooken as...this for 5th generation...tips don't turn the c-gear just like wild pokes...it will mess the process up...other then that its fine its mostly the same way but what i told in the beginning...also the frames are the same way with breeding just different tabs, and etc....oh do standard seed abuse...c-gear is to hard for breeding in my opinion...

[addman999]

I dont understand why when you search for standard seeds with nearby shinies theres that required lead tab?
That was never in any older RNG Reporter, is it just for gender. I dont really get it, I assume it doesnt effect IV's
or shinyness?

[TDawg]

I dont understand why when you search for standard seeds with nearby shinies theres that required lead tab?
That was never in any older RNG Reporter, is it just for gender. I dont really get it, I assume it doesnt effect IV's
or shinyness?

Just ignore it for the most part. You should only need to really ever use a synchronizer in 5th gen.

[KiltedTrainer]

Ok, so I am starting up Egg RNGing and I am just wondering what I need to set my min/max advances at, and then how do I know for sure I'll find the right seed to hit when I get the egg? Eggs advance the frame when you recieve them, correct? and what starting frame do I assume I am at? 1?

[dewey911p]

Ok, so I am starting up Egg RNGing and I am just wondering what I need to set my min/max advances at, and then how do I know for sure I'll find the right seed to hit when I get the egg? Eggs advance the frame when you recieve them, correct? and what starting frame do I assume I am at? 1?

min/max = whatever you want (this is the number of chatot flips you will have to do so its how ever many flips you want to do really) as for the starting frame, in the main window copy and paste your seed, the hit "Calculate Initial PIDRNG Frame" and RNG reporter will tell you your starting frame. Hatch the egg and match it up with a PID frame and thats your SSF. Then just flip away and you should have it

[Agonist]

Ok, so I am starting up Egg RNGing and I am just wondering what I need to set my min/max advances at, and then how do I know for sure I'll find the right seed to hit when I get the egg? Eggs advance the frame when you recieve them, correct? and what starting frame do I assume I am at? 1?

Eggs always are on frame eight, as the act of receiving the egg advances your frame by seven. For max PID frame I always set it to sixty, since there isn't really any reason to go higher (except maybe for shiny eggs, but I've never had to go above sixty to find a seed. As for hitting the seed itself, you can check with Chatot Pitches, but other than that you won't know until you hatch the egg.

[Shadow_Assailant]

Hey guys! Finally back. I've been having a Pokémon interest lately and to RNG. It's been a while and PPRNG has had some major updates. Anyone on here running PPRNG? I have a few questions about it. :P

[Agonist]

Shoot away.

[Shadow_Assailant]

Okay. So the very first thing I noticed was under Egg Seed Searcher. Once you've input your data and you're searching for a seed, there's a potential for a seed to pop up that has a check mark under the column titled HA. What does this mean?
Another thing is in the Standard Seed Inspector under the eggs tab, there's a column titled "Chatot" with 2 letters and a number. What does this mean? The last thing I've noticed is that the last time I RNGed, despite PPRNG telling you you're initial PID frame, it was never correct for egg RNGs. Is it accurate now? If not, what's the best method of figuring out my initial PID frame now because I used to use the Adjacents tab, but I don't believe that is applicable anymore.

[Shadow_Assailant]

Or maybe my problem is the fact that I'm using OS X Lion. Was that bug ever fixed?

[Shadow_Assailant]

Okay. So for anyone willing to spend their time helping me, my problem is not holding down buttons or starting at the right time or flipping Chatots right. I just caught a Durant that I plan to breed with to get a better one and I did it first try. PPRNG is weird now with RNGing eggs. I'll probably need some guidance on how to use PPRNG to do it because there's some differences in it since last time I did it and I can't hit a seed for the life of me. :/

[Agonist]

Okay. So the very first thing I noticed was under Egg Seed Searcher. Once you've input your data and you're searching for a seed, there's a potential for a seed to pop up that has a check mark under the column titled HA. What does this mean?

It just means Hidden Ability, which is the dream world ability, and if it will be passed down or not.
Another thing is in the Standard Seed Inspector under the eggs tab, there's a column titled "Chatot" with 2 letters and a number. What does this mean?

That's for Chatot pitches, which you can use to determine if you hit your seed or not.
The last thing I've noticed is that the last time I RNGed, despite PPRNG telling you you're initial PID frame, it was never correct for egg RNGs. Is it accurate now? If not, what's the best method of figuring out my initial PID frame now because I used to use the Adjacents tab, but I don't believe that is applicable anymore.
It's always been accurate for me, so I guess, yes?

Responses in bold.


Also, don't triple post. Just edit your posts.

[Eeveelover824]

Ok, so I am starting up Egg RNGing and I am just wondering what I need to set my min/max advances at, and then how do I know for sure I'll find the right seed to hit when I get the egg? Eggs advance the frame when you recieve them, correct? and what starting frame do I assume I am at? 1?

min/max can stay the same as it is don't really need to worry about that and the chatot pitchs just like the wild will determine the correct seed and checking the hp and also if you use pokecheck can help as well...okay the starting frame will be determined in the main reporter...depending on your breeding for example if its a international you would check the international if not leave it uncheck same for the ditto, shiny, dw, and etc(everything counts in this or it will not generate correctly) in the time generator box...also if your using everstone too need to be shown too in the box use the egg tab for this...also make sure you know both parents iv's and etc...place those in the box...once the time is genrated like dewey said copy and paste in the main reporter if using international us BW international, if not use the standard BW breeding...then calculate the intial PID frame button...that will determine your starting frame...then skip two frames from the beginning one of the 5 frames after that will determine how many chatot frames you will be advancing with chatot then take that frame - the original frame to get the chatot frames you need to hear the chatots pitch...alright this all i can give you for now cuaz im not sure if your using a ds lite though...i assume you are but ill wait until you get this down pat for this first part of understanding the breeding on the reporter side then work to the game...hope this is understandable...

[Vandslaux]

Is standard seed RNG not really worth it on a DSi, albeit doable? That clock on the DS Lite is so useful, and I can never match up with my external clock correctly.