*Revamped RNG Discussion/Help Thread [Do not ask about Gen 6 RNG]

[Phoenix_85x]

Bolded is the problem. You're not gonna prevent the NPCs from advancing the frame. Try again, this time chattering once to see how much the NPCs advance the frame, and then see how much you really need to advance it by.

Should i chatter once and then directly get the egg or should i wait a second or so for the NPCs to move? And how will the NPCs affect how much i need to advance the frame by?
Anyway, i read in a guide that you need to have 2 flawless parents for the egg, is that true? since the guide i use says that it won't matter.
Anyway, i tried to RNG in HG to catch the flawless parents i need (since they aren't available in BW).
I used this guide, but it doesn't tell how to calibrate in HG.
Instead, it links to this guide, but it only shows how to calibrate in DPPT.

Does anyone have a good guide for HG RNG abuse? Also, do you need to download EonTimer? Since i remember that i read that somewhere.

[The Eleventh]

Should i chatter once and then directly get the egg or should i wait a second or so for the NPCs to move? And how will the NPCs affect how much i need to advance the frame by?

No, you should press X from the summary screen, and rapidly press A while the screen returns to the overworld to receive the egg as quickly as possible. Taking this approach, the NPCs should only advance by 2-5.

Anyway, i read in a guide that you need to have 2 flawless parents for the egg, is that true? since the guide i use says that it won't matter.

No. At the very least, you need three flawless IVs between the parents.

I used this guide, but it doesn't tell how to calibrate in HG.
Instead, it links to this guide, but it only shows how to calibrate in DPPT.

You don't need to calibrate anymore, thanks to EonTimer. Just enter 510 or thereabouts as your calibrated delay, then update EonTimer often with the delay you hit (only if you're considerably off the target delay).

Also, do you need to download EonTimer? Since i remember that i read that somewhere.

Yes. Here's a download link.

Try this revised guide. I haven't used it myself or read through it to a great degree, but it may be helpful.

[kaiser soze]

So, has anyone tried RNGing the Hidden Hollows in BW2 yet?

[Eeveelover824]

Should i chatter once and then directly get the egg or should i wait a second or so for the NPCs to move? And how will the NPCs affect how much i need to advance the frame by?
Anyway, i read in a guide that you need to have 2 flawless parents for the egg, is that true? since the guide i use says that it won't matter.
Anyway, i tried to RNG in HG to catch the flawless parents i need (since they aren't available in BW).
I used this guide, but it doesn't tell how to calibrate in HG.
Instead, it links to this guide, but it only shows how to calibrate in DPPT.

Does anyone have a good guide for HG RNG abuse? Also, do you need to download EonTimer? Since i remember that i read that somewhere.

for 5th gen breeding if you want a certain hp then yes you need to have at least one flawless and the other have at least two iv's 30 and the rest 31 otherwise no you don't have to have both flawless as long as one is flawless it should be fine...also what are you asking about the npc's? it depends on the frame of your target - the target you hit normally of the first 5 frames you should hit without chatot crys will determin how many chatots you need to hear...i just get so confused easily lol...

yes you need the timer and here the site for you its for both but once you read it its quite straight forward http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3467154 im still learning too on 4th gen...eleventh and dewey are alot of help

[The Eleventh]

So, has anyone tried RNGing the Hidden Hollows in BW2 yet?

I don't believe so, although people at Smogon have looked into the Hidden Hollow RNG. I'd assume it's extremely possible.

[drothagreat0ne]

Hey guys. This is a question to my fellow PPRNG users:

I'm the process of rewriting my TID/SID abuse guide I submitted in this very thread, and I would like to know what this means:

http://i.imgur.com/BW3IM.jpg

[dewey911p]

So, has anyone tried RNGing the Hidden Hollows in BW2 yet?

many users at pokecheck have Kaiser. You can ask them how its done, i dont have the games so i really havent paid much attention to it. Ask around though, some people have uploaded almost all of the HH pokemon RNGed. Between everyone that has the game, i think all new abilities have pretty much been uploaded, so someone should definitly be able to help you

Good luck though, i hear some people have around 8-12 Timer0 values on their games, so be prepared for a troll fest.

[Zorua?!]

I got my shiny Deino, but it took me over 4400+ PID advances. Is it always a high number like this? Because the stress level was hella high and it takes a ****ing LONG time.

[The Eleventh]

many users at pokecheck have Kaiser. You can ask them how its done, i dont have the games so i really havent paid much attention to it. Ask around though, some people have uploaded almost all of the HH pokemon RNGed. Between everyone that has the game, i think all new abilities have pretty much been uploaded, so someone should definitly be able to help you

I'm not sure if he was referring to the Pokémon in the Hollows or the Hollows themselves. I took it to be the latter. Yes, though, Hollow Pokémon have obviously been RNGed.

I got my shiny Deino, but it took me over 4400+ PID advances. Is it always a high number like this? Because the stress level was hella high and it takes a ****ing LONG time.

You should definitely search for seeds with lower shiny frames. Going into the thousands is crazy. xD

[Zorua?!]

You should definitely search for seeds with lower shiny frames. Going into the thousands is crazy. xD

Lower Frames won't come up. The lowest that does is like 1600 or something.

Also, I always forget: you must stop advacing the PID Frame one frame BEFORE the target shown on RNG Reporter, correct?

[Too Funk to Druck]

Lower Frames won't come up. The lowest that does is like 1600 or something.

Also, I always forget: you must stop advacing the PID Frame one frame BEFORE the target shown on RNG Reporter, correct?

Are you searching through multiple years? Also, are you searching for perfect stats across the board, because then you could take out a 31 in a stat you don't need(special attack for physical attackers/attack for special attackers for example), that should also bring it down. And a synchronizer should help as well. Because yeah, over 1000 advances is pretty ridiculous.

And yeah, one before.

[Zorua?!]

Are you searching through multiple years? Also, are you searching for perfect stats across the board, because then you could take out a 31 in a stat you don't need(special attack for physical attackers/attack for special attackers for example), that should also bring it down. And a synchronizer should help as well. Because yeah, over 1000 advances is pretty ridiculous.

And yeah, one before.

I'm doing all these things except looking through multiple years. I'm doing all MONTHS, but for years... do we put in 2000-2099 or something?

[Too Funk to Druck]

I'm doing all these things except looking through multiple years. I'm doing all MONTHS, but for years... do we put in 2000-2099 or something?

you can't search through multiple years at a time, but you can do one at a time(at least not on RNG Reporter). Just go through each year, and search through multiple months.

[Zorua?!]

you can't search through multiple years at a time, but you can do one at a time(at least not on RNG Reporter). Just go through each year, and search through multiple months.

Alright, I'll be trying that next time. About how many results do you get when searching for all months for a pokemon? I get only about 3, and that too with the PID Frame needing to be at 1600+. Maybe my ID/SID is cracked out for shininess.

Anyways, I still got 2 shiny Deinos, with the PID Frame at 4468 and 1919 :O

[chiizu]

Good luck though, i hear some people have around 8-12 Timer0 values on their games, so be prepared for a troll fest.

I have not heard of anyone seeing more than 6 Timer0 values on an actual cart.

Hey guys. This is a question to my fellow PPRNG users:

I'm the process of rewriting my TID/SID abuse guide I submitted in this very thread, and I would like to know what this means:

http://i.imgur.com/BW3IM.jpg

Yeah, this is not clear. It seems very few people use this feature because this is the first time I've seen a question about it.

S = Synchronize: A synchronizer's ability will activate on this frame for this encounter type, so any nature can be obtained.

O = "Other" (non-Cute Charm): This frame is can be hit, but Synchronize will not activate, so you can only get the nature shown for that row. Cute Charm may also be usuable but is not included because it modifies the PID, which affects shininess.

Blank = Can't hit this PID for the given encounter type.

[fortify45]

hay guys i need a little help.
Im attempting standard seeds right now and running into a problem.
I seem to be hitting my time just fine to start game up. however when i get so far and need to start using chatot to change frames and such, its not giving me accurate pitches that are not matching up. i have attempted to rehit my seed several times but never succeeded. then i realized it may have to do with the timer0 values. im running a 3ds so if anyone can give any advice it would be appreciated.

[dewey911p]

I have not heard of anyone seeing more than 6 Timer0 values on an actual cart.

It may have been an emu. tbh, im not sure as I'm waiting for the English versions of the game myself, so i just pass along what i hear. Either way though, having 2 Timer0's was a real pain, even if its only 6 that still sucks... a lot

Oh, and what a beautiful Lugia you have :3 Since entralink abuse is now standard seed abuse too, was the process just: hit seed, advance PID frame via chatot, collect pokemon? or is there more to it still?

hay guys i need a little help.
Im attempting standard seeds right now and running into a problem.
I seem to be hitting my time just fine to start game up. however when i get so far and need to start using chatot to change frames and such, its not giving me accurate pitches that are not matching up. i have attempted to rehit my seed several times but never succeeded. then i realized it may have to do with the timer0 values. im running a 3ds so if anyone can give any advice it would be appreciated.

It could just be a Timer0 problem, you might have missed your seed, or it might be a bad Chatot recording and it is hard to follow Since you are using a 3DS are you loading your game 8 seconds before your target time?

[kaiser soze]

many users at pokecheck have Kaiser. You can ask them how its done, i dont have the games so i really havent paid much attention to it. Ask around though, some people have uploaded almost all of the HH pokemon RNGed. Between everyone that has the game, i think all new abilities have pretty much been uploaded, so someone should definitly be able to help you

Good luck though, i hear some people have around 8-12 Timer0 values on their games, so be prepared for a troll fest.

I'm waiting until Black2 reaches the US, so I'll have time to learn how it's done. Just curious to see if anyone has figured it out yet. Although if the Timer0 gets realy trolly I might just switch to my old Black/White games and RNG from there.


EDIT: Also any word on RNGing the Dream Radar?

[chiizu]

Oh, and what a beautiful Lugia you have :3 Since entralink abuse is now standard seed abuse too, was the process just: hit seed, advance PID frame via chatot, collect pokemon? or is there more to it still?

It was Dream Radar, but the process is similar. Very easy to know if you've hit your seed or not. Finding a good seed takes a lot longer, though.

Also any word on RNGing the Dream Radar?

http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1561272

[drothagreat0ne]

I have not heard of anyone seeing more than 6 Timer0 values on an actual cart.



Yeah, this is not clear. It seems very few people use this feature because this is the first time I've seen a question about it.

S = Synchronize: A synchronizer's ability will activate on this frame for this encounter type, so any nature can be obtained.

O = "Other" (non-Cute Charm): This frame is can be hit, but Synchronize will not activate, so you can only get the nature shown for that row. Cute Charm may also be usuable but is not included because it modifies the PID, which affects shininess.

Blank = Can't hit this PID for the given encounter type.

Thanks for the clarification. It all makes sense now.


*Edit

http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1561272

Too sick!