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    Quote Originally Posted by joffice View Post
    I've tried that already. For every other frame advancements i do (Elm calls accounted for and everything), i get the correct frame. When i advanced it 93 times, the encounter was on frame 94 and this happened for all the frame advancements that i've tried except for the frame that i am aiming for. >.>

    Yup, you're better off RNGing in B/W instead of B2/W2.
    Yeah, in B2W2 it's easier to RNG in the Entralink compared to B1W1, however the trade-off was having egg RNGs nearly impossible on B2W2, so I would egg RNG primarily on B1W1 and Entralink RNG primarily on B2W2.


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    Quote Originally Posted by QuoteMaster View Post
    Yeah, in B2W2 it's easier to RNG in the Entralink compared to B1W1, however the trade-off was having egg RNGs nearly impossible on B2W2, so I would egg RNG primarily on B1W1 and Entralink RNG primarily on B2W2.
    don't forget that there are many more Timer0's in BW2, as well.
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    does anyone know if they fix the breeding side for rnging for bw2 cuaz some told me it harde and should i still rng all my stuff on black then transfer just asking?...man i haven't posted in awhile XD


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    Ok, so i'm still having trouble with RNGing in HG. So, I'm still trying to RNG Pokes with a Timid frame of 114, but when i advance the frame 113 times (Elm calls accounted for), it seems that I get a totally different PID (and not frame 124 as i mentioned earlier) with a Naughty nature. I've also tried this for other seeds with this same PID and i get the exact Naughty natured Poke as previously stated. However, all other PID's in the frame remain the same as seen in RNG Reporter, which is odd to why only this Timid frame is off. I've even tried RNGing for the other flawless (Modest) "paired" IV spread and that works out fine as well. Also, note that the PID for this shiny frame does not need a synchronizer and the same problem exists when i try to RNG Pokes with this PID using the Method 1 generation.

    I've already RNGed a couple Pokes sometime last week in the same HG game with this Timid PID , but for some reason when I tried to RNG this week, I get a Naughty nature instead of Timid. Any suggestions on why my game is like this or did I do something wrong?


    Quote Originally Posted by Eeveelover824 View Post
    does anyone know if they fix the breeding side for rnging for bw2 cuaz some told me it harde and should i still rng all my stuff on black then transfer just asking?...man i haven't posted in awhile XD
    Yeah, you should still egg rng on the original B/W games since with the new rng mechanics in B2/W2, it's extremely difficult to egg rng there.
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    Hi all haven't been here for ages, been so busy RNGing all the Wifi and instore events that haven't really had time to do much. But my US copy of White 2 arrives on Monday and I've already found my parameters on my Jap copy of Black 2. So my question is . . and apologies if this has been answered earlier but I'm too lazy to read all the previous pages lol . . . in the hidden hollows areas do the pokemon count as a Stationary RNG or is there something different to it.

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    Stationary.
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    Brilliant, thanks Agonist. Do you know if they can be RNG'd shiny? I heard some people saying they couldn't. And also people are saying the gender is set when they are generated so the only thing you can RNG is the IV's and nature, is this true? Just so I don't waste time looking for a female to breed from if it's only ever going to be male.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSK View Post
    Brilliant, thanks Agonist. Do you know if they can be RNG'd shiny? I heard some people saying they couldn't. And also people are saying the gender is set when they are generated so the only thing you can RNG is the IV's and nature, is this true? Just so I don't waste time looking for a female to breed from if it's only ever going to be male.
    The hidden Grotto pokemon cannot be shiny if you RNG them in the Grotto (but the females can be bred of course) and the gender is set once the pokemon is generated, so once you walk into the Grotto and see the pokemon, it is already a set species and gender. However, iirc the most recent version of RNGR allows you to RNG not only the pokemon, but the grotto as well so you can control what species will appear and what gender it will be.

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    Ok cool, so I'll just pray for females, RNG them with couple of 31's then Breed for the shinies

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    Hey. Quick question. Is the process of TID/SID Abuse similar with Black 2 and White 2? I would hope it is, but considering that you can name your rival now, I figure it may differ.

    And along the note of TID/SID abuse, is the process of saving to get a shiny starter still the same?

    Can you use a Dream Radar seed to find a matching TID/SID pair that will give that seed?
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    #605 Elgyem | Psychic | Male | Poké Ball
    OT: Shadow | ID: 05947 | SID: 13142 | Shiny: Yes
    Nature: Quiet | Ability: Synchronize | Characteristic: Mischievous.
    Date: 7/14/2012 | Hatched: Skyarrow Bridge | Met at Lvl. 5
    Hidden Power/Power: Ice/64 | IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/0
    Egg Move(s): Nasty Plot


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow_Assailant View Post
    Hey. Quick question. Is the process of TID/SID Abuse similar with Black 2 and White 2? I would hope it is, but considering that you can name your rival now, I figure it may differ.

    And along the note of TID/SID abuse, is the process of saving to get a shiny starter still the same?

    Can you use a Dream Radar seed to find a matching TID/SID pair that will give that seed?
    It's the same as BW ID abuse, but starters can be tricky since there are WNPCs and there are more Timer0 values. As for the Dream Radar, I have no clue.

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    Uhg.... This White 2 Parameter searching is so hard! It's not working for me at all...
    My most recent RNG:


    #605 Elgyem | Psychic | Male | Poké Ball
    OT: Shadow | ID: 05947 | SID: 13142 | Shiny: Yes
    Nature: Quiet | Ability: Synchronize | Characteristic: Mischievous.
    Date: 7/14/2012 | Hatched: Skyarrow Bridge | Met at Lvl. 5
    Hidden Power/Power: Ice/64 | IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/0
    Egg Move(s): Nasty Plot


        Spoiler:- 5 Recent RNGed Pokémon:



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    Has anyone tried TID/SID abuse for BW2?
    My most recent RNG:


    #605 Elgyem | Psychic | Male | Poké Ball
    OT: Shadow | ID: 05947 | SID: 13142 | Shiny: Yes
    Nature: Quiet | Ability: Synchronize | Characteristic: Mischievous.
    Date: 7/14/2012 | Hatched: Skyarrow Bridge | Met at Lvl. 5
    Hidden Power/Power: Ice/64 | IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/0
    Egg Move(s): Nasty Plot


        Spoiler:- 5 Recent RNGed Pokémon:



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    Hey Shadow_Assailant, perhaps this post by Chiizu can alleviate the parameters issue:

    http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpos...55&postcount=4

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    Hey all, not sure if it's been covered but is it possible to RNG Dream Radar pokemon? As they are put straight in your PC box do they have to be RNG'd on the actual Radar game.
    Does anyone have a guide etc? Also can they be shiny?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSK View Post
    Hey all, not sure if it's been covered but is it possible to RNG Dream Radar pokemon? As they are put straight in your PC box do they have to be RNG'd on the actual Radar game.
    Does anyone have a guide etc? Also can they be shiny?
    They can indeed be RNGed. There isn't a guide for RNG Reporter at the moment, since it has yet to be updated with Dream Radar functionality, though there is one available for PPRNG. The process should be largely similar. DR Pokémon cannot be shiny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Eleventh View Post
    They can indeed be RNGed. There isn't a guide for RNG Reporter at the moment, since it has yet to be updated with Dream Radar functionality, though there is one available for PPRNG. The process should be largely similar. DR Pokémon cannot be shiny.
    Ok thanks, think I'll wait til RNg reporter has been updated and a guide for that is out, I've always been more successful with that than PPRNG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drothagreat0ne View Post
    Hey Shadow_Assailant, perhaps this post by Chiizu can alleviate the parameters issue:

    http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpos...55&postcount=4
    Ah. Yeah. Sorry for not slashing that post out. I did figure out my problem. Lol. I had once started up and saved the game in order to find my parameters, but I deleted my save data eventually for some reason. Then when I went to try to calibrate my parameters again, I forgot I had to save. I spent almost 2 hours trying to figure out my problem until I realized that I didn't save again. I've since gotten them.

    And yeah. I've spent a lot of time on Smogon. If you look at the main PPRNG thread and at the most recent posts, you can see me commenting up a storm. I'm probably not on Chiizu's good side right now. Lol.
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    #605 Elgyem | Psychic | Male | Poké Ball
    OT: Shadow | ID: 05947 | SID: 13142 | Shiny: Yes
    Nature: Quiet | Ability: Synchronize | Characteristic: Mischievous.
    Date: 7/14/2012 | Hatched: Skyarrow Bridge | Met at Lvl. 5
    Hidden Power/Power: Ice/64 | IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/0
    Egg Move(s): Nasty Plot


        Spoiler:- 5 Recent RNGed Pokémon:



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Eleventh View Post
    They can indeed be RNGed. There isn't a guide for RNG Reporter at the moment, since it has yet to be updated with Dream Radar functionality, though there is one available for PPRNG. The process should be largely similar. DR Pokémon cannot be shiny.
    Is PPRNG a Mac only program? And if it is, is there a Windows equivalent that can be used for RNGing Dream Radar Pokemon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkittyOnWailord View Post
    Is PPRNG a Mac only program? And if it is, is there a Windows equivalent that can be used for RNGing Dream Radar Pokemon?
    PPRNG is Mac only but the function for RNGing Dream Radar pokemon for RNG Reporter (Windows) isn't out yet.


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