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    Quote Originally Posted by dewey911p View Post
    She linked RNGer Aaron's guide from Smogon. That is the only RNGr guide there is for DR abuse.
    >_>'

    Anyways, I'm dealing with RNG Reporter 9.96.6 Windows XP Alpha and when I try to run a search in the Dream Radar section for seeds, the searching progress window from generate doesn't do anything at all, I can move it around and close/pause it without Reporter doing something silly like crashing but it does literally nothing, is there something wrong or....?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dewey911p View Post
    Set the IV search to >=30/xx/>=30/xx/>=30/xx check the shiny only box and search. This will give you all decent spreads with that ID combo and it covers pretty much all HP types, physical spreads, and even TR spreads. Also, if you abused for a CC ID combo, searching for Method 1 pokemon won't work.
    Huh, yeah there were some pretty decent ones there, thanks. Since I'm after legends I searched on Method J, Stationary too and those have some decent ones too. I'm highly certain I didn't choose a seed that said Cute Charm or Synchronize or anything next to it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by QuoteMaster View Post
    >_>'

    Anyways, I'm dealing with RNG Reporter 9.96.6 Windows XP Alpha and when I try to run a search in the Dream Radar section for seeds, the searching progress window from generate doesn't do anything at all, I can move it around and close/pause it without Reporter doing something silly like crashing but it does literally nothing, is there something wrong or....?
    Eh? You're a ... GIRL! Well I'll be darned, I never would have guessed. A thousand pardons ma'am *bows*

    I have no clue what Dream Radar section you are referring too. Last I knew RNGr didn;t have anything about the DR supported. I just used the IVs (Standard seed) to find seeds and set the IV frame accordingly depending upon what I wanted to RNG. From there I just did the simple math myself and always did a test run just to be sure everything went right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dewey911p View Post
    He linked RNGer Aaron's guide from Smogon. That is the only RNGr guide there is for DR abuse.
    lol yeah quote is a girl and I hope you know im a female too right dewey >.> LOL it should be more noticable now since my name change XD and oh that is windows screen shots 0_0 there may be hope after all lol thanks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FairyWitch View Post
    lol yeah quote is a girl and I hope you know im a female too right dewey >.> LOL it should be more noticable now since my name change XD and oh that is windows screen shots 0_0 there may be hope after all lol thanks...
    ...We can all see that Fairy... it was clear even before the name change. Let's give Dewey a break.

    The guide's a bit a of a tricky read it'll take time to read it all and firm grasp of the process, I'm in the same shoes as you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuoteMaster View Post
    ...We can all see that Fairy... it was clear even before the name change. Let's give Dewey a break.

    The guide's a bit a of a tricky read it'll take time to read it all and firm grasp of the process, I'm in the same shoes as you are.

    I was just joking >.> maybe i should of added the slash marks >.< but anyway alright ill read and read again to figure out....thanks quote...

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    Hi Dewey, hope you're around and read this.

    So I'm still working my way through RNGing all the Arceus from my Dream World accounts before they shut it down and it's a nightmare!!

    I've managed 7 of the 17 so far (although 2 are on my main Black & White carts) so I have 8 left to do. I've got the hang of hitting my delays now, after toying with a 31/30/31/31/31/31 spread and a 31/31/31/30/31/31, I finally found a 31/31/31/31/30/31 which I can hit pretty quickly every time. My only issue is getting the right nature, no matter how many times I try I can't get the natures I want. I did a cluster search and found a group of 13 viable natures I think I've set up my Eon timer correctly but not sure. Can you confirm what I should be putting and where to get the desired nature.

    So far I've got Jolly, Hasty, Modest which were good but I've got 3 Gentle and one Serious which I've just decided to keep as I don't think I'll have time to get them all at this rate!!

    For info Eon timer is set like this

    Calibration -94, Target Delay 5367, Target Seconds 59, EL Calibration 364 (Which I assume I don't need to change at all as I can hit my seed using this)
    On the other side Frame Calibration -2000, Target Advances 97 (Now this is where I think I need to fiddle, I put 97 in as that was the 1st frame of the cluster I found where viable frames are all the way up to 132 with various spaces) But I left calibration as it was originally so do I need to change this? If so what to?

    My C-Gear seed time is 00:25:59 and my nature seed is 00:24:30.

    Any help greatly appreciated, otherwise I'll just have to continue getting rubbish natured ones and working around it with good sets lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSK View Post
    Hi Dewey, hope you're around and read this.

    So I'm still working my way through RNGing all the Arceus from my Dream World accounts before they shut it down and it's a nightmare!!

    I've managed 7 of the 17 so far (although 2 are on my main Black & White carts) so I have 8 left to do. I've got the hang of hitting my delays now, after toying with a 31/30/31/31/31/31 spread and a 31/31/31/30/31/31, I finally found a 31/31/31/31/30/31 which I can hit pretty quickly every time. My only issue is getting the right nature, no matter how many times I try I can't get the natures I want. I did a cluster search and found a group of 13 viable natures I think I've set up my Eon timer correctly but not sure. Can you confirm what I should be putting and where to get the desired nature.

    So far I've got Jolly, Hasty, Modest which were good but I've got 3 Gentle and one Serious which I've just decided to keep as I don't think I'll have time to get them all at this rate!!

    For info Eon timer is set like this

    Calibration -94, Target Delay 5367, Target Seconds 59, EL Calibration 364 (Which I assume I don't need to change at all as I can hit my seed using this)
    On the other side Frame Calibration -2000, Target Advances 97 (Now this is where I think I need to fiddle, I put 97 in as that was the 1st frame of the cluster I found where viable frames are all the way up to 132 with various spaces) But I left calibration as it was originally so do I need to change this? If so what to?

    My C-Gear seed time is 00:25:59 and my nature seed is 00:24:30.

    Any help greatly appreciated, otherwise I'll just have to continue getting rubbish natured ones and working around it with good sets lol
    It sounds like your issue is with the third timer controlling the nature. Since you can hit your delay for the IVs, leave that timer alone. For the third timer to get the right nature, you need to enter the time RNGr tells you. You say you simply entered frame 97, but next to frame 97 there will be a number, that is the time you put into Eon timer. Just putting 97 into Eon timer means you are waiting 97 seconds, which could be in your range, could be before it, or could be way after it. Double check the time and update Eon timer accordingly.
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    Hey good people,

    I'm a long time reader, infrequent poster (and potentially a poor searcher): I"m trying to figure out if there is a way to RNG Hayley's Mew from "My Pokemon Ranch" - anyhow know how that's done (because I've never seen it mentioned in a board, and because I can't find a flawless Hayley mew on Pokecheck, I'm guessing it may be impossible)?
    I've just completed RNG'ing a shiny Manaphy Egg from an old Ranger cart (to Pearl to Platinum), and am aiming to wrap up all the complex stuff from Gen IV and V before X/Y hits (so the Arceus Entree RNG that you guys have been chatting about is next on my list).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dewey911p View Post
    It sounds like your issue is with the third timer controlling the nature. Since you can hit your delay for the IVs, leave that timer alone. For the third timer to get the right nature, you need to enter the time RNGr tells you. You say you simply entered frame 97, but next to frame 97 there will be a number, that is the time you put into Eon timer. Just putting 97 into Eon timer means you are waiting 97 seconds, which could be in your range, could be before it, or could be way after it. Double check the time and update Eon timer accordingly.
    Ah OK, so just checked it out. Next to frame 97 is "skip" lol typical it skips that one anyway!! But next to frame 98 (which is also viable) it says 0:56.43, so do I put this whole number into the eon timer box where I currently have 97? and do I leave -2000 as it is? I'm assuming that changes the 3rd timer to this amount so you hit the nature correct?

    Thanks again lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by EthanZ View Post
    Hey good people,

    I'm a long time reader, infrequent poster (and potentially a poor searcher): I"m trying to figure out if there is a way to RNG Hayley's Mew from "My Pokemon Ranch" - anyhow know how that's done (because I've never seen it mentioned in a board, and because I can't find a flawless Hayley mew on Pokecheck, I'm guessing it may be impossible)?
    I've just completed RNG'ing a shiny Manaphy Egg from an old Ranger cart (to Pearl to Platinum), and am aiming to wrap up all the complex stuff from Gen IV and V before X/Y hits (so the Arceus Entree RNG that you guys have been chatting about is next on my list).

    Many thanks,
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    I never heard of anyone rnging a haley mew on ranch which im pretty sure its impossible just like the gamecube colossuem games...sorry :/ if im wrong someone that more experience then me correct me but im pretty sure you can't rng on that ranch mew...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSK View Post
    Ah OK, so just checked it out. Next to frame 97 is "skip" lol typical it skips that one anyway!! But next to frame 98 (which is also viable) it says 0:56.43, so do I put this whole number into the eon timer box where I currently have 97? and do I leave -2000 as it is? I'm assuming that changes the 3rd timer to this amount so you hit the nature correct?

    Thanks again lol
    I'm not sure what you have set at -2000 to be honest. I just use the custom timer under settings, and all you need for that is the target time in seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dewey911p View Post
    I'm not sure what you have set at -2000 to be honest. I just use the custom timer under settings, and all you need for that is the target time in seconds.
    Any chance you can do a screen shot for me? I'd put a screen shot of my timer on for you but I can't for the life of me work out how do add screen shots lol

    Figured it out!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSK View Post
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    Any chance you can do a screen shot for me? I'd put a screen shot of my timer on for you but I can't for the life of me work out how do add screen shots lol

    Figured it out!!
    I'm using version 1.2 so I have no idea what that box even is. Just select C (which I assume will give you a custom timer) and enter the time next to your TF.

    If anyone else has any experiance B/W entralink RNGing using that version of Eon Timer, feel free to speak up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dewey911p View Post
    I'm using version 1.2 so I have no idea what that box even is. Just select C (which I assume will give you a custom timer) and enter the time next to your TF.

    If anyone else has any experiance B/W entralink RNGing using that version of Eon Timer, feel free to speak up.
    Ok C does look like you can set up custom times. So I put in the time of the first frame that has my viable nature.
    Now I'm assuming this is going to be trick and I'll need to do the first 2 timers as normal to get into the entralink. But when do I start this custom timer to get the nature is it as soon as I warp to the entralink? Or as soon as I turn the c-gear on?
    Thanks again. I'll get there eventually!! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSK View Post
    Ok C does look like you can set up custom times. So I put in the time of the first frame that has my viable nature.
    Now I'm assuming this is going to be trick and I'll need to do the first 2 timers as normal to get into the entralink. But when do I start this custom timer to get the nature is it as soon as I warp to the entralink? Or as soon as I turn the c-gear on?
    Thanks again. I'll get there eventually!! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by dewey911p View Post
    As soon as you warp to the entralink.
    Ok cool, well I've nearly played through again so as soon as I've downloaded the next Arceus I'll give it a go!! Wish me luck lol

    Yes!!! It worked perfectly, took me about 6 attempts to hit my frame but every time the nature was Jolly or Timid. Finally landed on a 31/31/31/31/30/31 Timid Arceus
    Very happy!!
    7 to go!!
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    Any tips for RNGing Uxie in Black2/White2?

    I've done the other Sinnoh legends + the golem trio without much trouble since they were in areas without wandering NPCs, but Uxie is problematic.
    I've calibrated a few times using the same time as my target seed so that I would know just about which PIDRNG frame I had hit, but the rng advances from wandering NPCs don't seem to be consistent (they advanced it by 4 frames once, then 9 frames, etc.)

    This makes verifying my seed (and advancing the rng) with Chatters annoying since I don't know exactly what frame(s) I am at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pingouin7 View Post
    Any tips for RNGing Uxie in Black2/White2?

    I've done the other Sinnoh legends + the golem trio without much trouble since they were in areas without wandering NPCs, but Uxie is problematic.
    I've calibrated a few times using the same time as my target seed so that I would know just about which PIDRNG frame I had hit, but the rng advances from wandering NPCs don't seem to be consistent (they advanced it by 4 frames once, then 9 frames, etc.)

    This makes verifying my seed (and advancing the rng) with Chatters annoying since I don't know exactly what frame(s) I am at.
    Yeah, 7 WNPCs are a *****. Nothing you can do really except keep trying. I picked a frame that was in the 100 (around 150 iirc) and I kept flipping chatots for a few minutes to see if I could eventually get something to match up. If I went a few minutes with no hit, I turned the game off and tried again. It only took me two tries or so to hit my frame.
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    Once I've managed to hit my seed + figure out where I am in the RNG, what frame should I stop at?
    I stopped one frame before my target, but between the time I pressed X and the time I managed to talk to Uxie, a wandering NPC had advanced it by 1.
    Should I stop 2 frames before my target instead? Or is it just down to dumb luck and the wandering NPCs might advance it by 10 one time, then not advance it the next time, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pingouin7 View Post
    Once I've managed to hit my seed + figure out where I am in the RNG, what frame should I stop at?
    I stopped one frame before my target, but between the time I pressed X and the time I managed to talk to Uxie, a wandering NPC had advanced it by 1.
    Should I stop 2 frames before my target instead? Or is it just down to dumb luck and the wandering NPCs might advance it by 10 one time, then not advance it the next time, etc.
    I would stop 2 frames before your TF and hope for the best. 7 NPCs makes this tricky, but it's still doable.
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    What did you do to try and match up your Chatters?
    Like, are there any specific methods that help match up Chatters more easily?
    Because right now, I only managed to match up the Chatters once and that was because dumb luck made it so I was looking at the right spot in the results window.

    I have this in my results:


    Do you think paying attention to only those 4 frames would be a good method? Since it sounds like 4 of the same pitch doesn't happen too often.
    I'd be paying attention and seeing if my Chatters eventually match up to those 4, then if the others after match, I'd know I got it right.

    Edit: Got it! Man that was tedious.
    I took a chance and stopped two frames before my target and it worked.

    Only have Kyurem left now, which shouldn't be complicated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pingouin7 View Post
    What did you do to try and match up your Chatters?
    Like, are there any specific methods that help match up Chatters more easily?
    Because right now, I only managed to match up the Chatters once and that was because dumb luck made it so I was looking at the right spot in the results window.

    I have this in my results:


    Do you think paying attention to only those 4 frames would be a good method? Since it sounds like 4 of the same pitch doesn't happen too often.
    I'd be paying attention and seeing if my Chatters eventually match up to those 4, then if the others after match, I'd know I got it right.

    Edit: Got it! Man that was tedious.
    I took a chance and stopped two frames before my target and it worked.

    Only have Kyurem left now, which shouldn't be complicated.
    Congratulations! I know you don't need the help anymore, but in case someone is in a similar situation and awaiting a response, I'll post just to clarify the process

    Yeah, I look for spots like that, either with a string of lows or highs, or somthing like 2 lows followed immediately by 2 highs. I would have used a string a bit higher up just to make sure you didn't miss it with all the NPCs. This method is what I use for bubble spot abuse and the like when there are uncontrollable PID advancements, too.
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    I'm not sure if this has been answered before but from a non-RNG abuser perspective:
    In Gen 4, having a Cute Charm pokemon in the lead while REing can raise or lower the chance of encountering shinies in the wild depending on your TID/SID combination.
    Does Cute Charm have the same effect in Gen 5? Or has that been changed and Cute Charm will have no effect on a pokemons shinyness?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangertrout View Post
    I'm not sure if this has been answered before but from a non-RNG abuser perspective:
    In Gen 4, having a Cute Charm pokemon in the lead while REing can raise or lower the chance of encountering shinies in the wild depending on your TID/SID combination.
    Does Cute Charm have the same effect in Gen 5? Or has that been changed and Cute Charm will have no effect on a pokemons shinyness?
    From a non-RNGers perspective, Cute Charm has no effect on shininess in gen 5 like it could in gen 4.

    Cute Charm still works, and you can still RNG pokemon using a Cute Charm lead, but it no longer has the effect of giving out so many shiny random pokemon that they become sickening.
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