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    Quote Originally Posted by Poke16Freak View Post
    i just tried it and it didnt work i think its the keypresses heres what i have to click

    A-Select-L

    so do i hold them until when and u said let go of A why

    heres what i do after i click on the ds menu i hold the three buttons until the season word dissapears than i quickly press x and use sweet scent
    See how your keypresses are A-Select-L? You can't just press A to start up the game and hold it. You need press A to start up the game, let go of it and then grab and hold all 3 buttons at the same time until the gamefreak logo comes on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Poke16Freak View Post
    and no the ivs were not like my targets not even close
    Then you didn't hit the seed. Your IV frame in the time finder is 1, right?
    Try again and see if you can get the right IVs. If not right click your seed in the time finder and click generate adjacent seeds (current frame). See if you can find the wrong IVs you get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poke16Freak View Post
    and no the ivs were not like my targets not even close
    Then what you want to do is...in the time finder window, right-click on the seed you were trying to hit and select "find adjacent frames". See if the IVs for the pokemon you did get match any of the results of the adjacent seeds.

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    I have a quick question, I looked at all the No NPCs areas, and I was wondering if all the Muskteers rooms were No NPCs rooms. Because it seems like they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiser soze View Post
    -RNG abuse actually takes skill. Trying to make a 1/1366, let alone 1/8192 event happen with luck til it happens screams you don't have a life.
    - The biggest draw to RNGed pokemon is for flawless IVs, which are way more useful than a color swap.
    - It's an exploitable in-game feature, just like EVs and IV breeding.
    - Nintendo notes that it is legal; it's not cheating by their own definitions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poke16Freak View Post
    so once the gamefreak logo comes on do i let go of them
    Yes, it's fine to let go at the trademark screen, or gamefreak logo. Whichever is more comfortable for you.

    @Tarro: That is correct, none of them have NPCs that affect the PID frame (neither does Zek/Resh, Victini, Kyurem or Landorus either).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poke16Freak View Post
    so once the gamefreak logo comes on do i let go of them
    Yes...and do the rest. Enter the game (C-gear turned off), Press X rapidly while season message is fading to bring up the menu, sweet scent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarro57 View Post
    I have a quick question, I looked at all the No NPCs areas, and I was wondering if all the Muskteers rooms were No NPCs rooms. Because it seems like they are.
    Yes. They are alone in the rooms (except for wild Pokemon).

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    I DID IT almost YES Thanks everybody for helping me
    and can somebody tell me why the nature was wrong
    i wanted a modest one but instead i got a quirky one
    and heres the pokemon i got

    Litwick 31ivs in HP, Att, Def,SP.att, spdef, and 29ivs in speed
    it had the exact HP as my target one the only thing that was wrong was the nature
    i wonder why
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poke16Freak View Post
    I DID IT almost YES Thanks everybody for helping me
    and can somebody tell me why the nature was wrong
    i wanted a modest one but instead i got a quirky one
    and heres the pokemon i got

    Litwick 31ivs in HP, Att, Def,SP.att, spdef, and 29ivs in speed
    it had the exact HP as my target one the only thing that was wrong was the nature
    i wonder why
    It's because you didn't hit the PID frame for a modest litwick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jolteon135 View Post
    Yes. They are alone in the rooms (except for wild Pokemon).
    Cool! Thankyou, I'm going to try to PIDRNG them, along with IVRNG them.

    P.S. Cool new avatar @Poke16Freak!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiser soze View Post
    -RNG abuse actually takes skill. Trying to make a 1/1366, let alone 1/8192 event happen with luck til it happens screams you don't have a life.
    - The biggest draw to RNGed pokemon is for flawless IVs, which are way more useful than a color swap.
    - It's an exploitable in-game feature, just like EVs and IV breeding.
    - Nintendo notes that it is legal; it's not cheating by their own definitions.

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    did you RNG or PIDRNG? If you RNG you have no control over nature. For a Litwick the best method is to standard non-c gear RNG and use a synchroniser for the nature. I have a modest synchroniser if you need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poke16Freak View Post
    I DID IT almost YES Thanks everybody for helping me
    and can somebody tell me why the nature was wrong
    i wanted a modest one but instead i got a quirky one
    and heres the pokemon i got

    Litwick 31ivs in HP, Att, Def,SP.att, spdef, and 29ivs in speed
    it had the exact HP as my target one the only thing that was wrong was the nature
    i wonder why
    Sweet. You've mastered one RNG now (The IVRNG). Now for the more difficult one (PIDRNG). The PIDRNG is the one that determines your nature and everything else. So take note of that litwicks nature, ability, gender etc. Then look at the list of PID frames. Start from your Calculated initial PID frame and work your way up the frames until you find a PID frame that matches that litwick. It must be the same everything (nature, ability, gender, encounter slot). Click 5th gen tools and click on the encounter tables for a list of encounter slots (Not sure if they'll be helpful in this case). When you find the matching frame that's your starting PID frame. So redo it again (dont save) and next time view Chatot's summary the correct number of times to get to your target PID frame.

    Btw, the gender ratios in RNG reporter are for the females. If you look at serebii you'll see that litwick is 50%F so the litwicks gender is under the 50%F column.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarro57 View Post
    Cool! Thankyou, I'm going to try to PIDRNG them, along with IVRNG them.

    P.S. Cool new avatar @Poke16Freak!
    Just search for an IV frame of 1, input the IV spread you're looking for, and find a seed that lets you synch (and shiny if you want them shiny). Much easier to synch them than find a seed with flawless IVs/specific HP IVs, right nature and shiny. At least in my experience it was easier this way, and I still had to search all the way through Jan 2019 to get my seeds, lol.
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    ^Yeah, synchronizers help a lot. Also don't choose nature if you're using a synchronizer. Only choose sync nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jolteon135 View Post
    Sweet. You've mastered one RNG now (The IVRNG). Now for the more difficult one (PIDRNG). The PIDRNG is the one that determines your nature and everything else. So take note of that litwicks nature, ability, gender etc. Then look at the list of PID frames. Start from your Calculated initial PID frame and work your way up the frames until you find a PID frame that matches that litwick. It must be the same everything (nature, ability, gender, encounter slot). Click 5th gen tools and click on the encounter tables for a list of encounter slots (Not sure if they'll be helpful in this case). When you find the matching frame that's your starting PID frame. So redo it again (dont save) and next time view Chatot's summary the correct number of times to get to your target PID frame.

    Btw, the gender ratios in RNG reporter are for the females. If you look at serebii you'll see that litwick is 50%F so the litwicks gender is under the 50%F column.
    oops i saved it but thats ok i wanted to rest since i was here the whole day
    so to do the other one i had to find a quirky litwick and with the same thing and i would do what im going to come here tommorrow or maybe later to try and master this process because i want shinies
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    This thread is being posted in like wild fire.
    @poke16freak
    RNGing isn't going to come easily. You have to put more effort into it, and its better done a DIY with some asking involved.

    This thread is like a Home Depot. Get all the tools you need, ask about how to do it, then go home and do it yourself.
    Last edited by Zenotwapal; 5th August 2011 at 12:27 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenotwapal View Post
    this thread is like a Home Depot. Get all the tools you need, ask about how to do it, then go home and do it yourself.
    This should be in the first post haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poke16Freak View Post
    thanks )))))
    Yourwelcome!!! ^o^

    Quote Originally Posted by kaiser soze View Post
    This should be in the first post haha
    You should PM/VM STUD to post it there then! Woot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiser soze View Post
    -RNG abuse actually takes skill. Trying to make a 1/1366, let alone 1/8192 event happen with luck til it happens screams you don't have a life.
    - The biggest draw to RNGed pokemon is for flawless IVs, which are way more useful than a color swap.
    - It's an exploitable in-game feature, just like EVs and IV breeding.
    - Nintendo notes that it is legal; it's not cheating by their own definitions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenotwapal View Post
    this thread is like a Home Depot. Get all the tools you need, ask about how to do it, then go home and do it yourself.
    What a fantastic analogy.
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    Hey guys, is there another way to get the same effect as Soft Resetting?
    Cause when I start my ZomgTimer for first stage , I realized that my DS lite shoulder buttons don't work.
    Also I'm doing C-gear seed method and My first time RNGing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poke16Freak View Post
    alright ill delete all my posts
    You don't have to delete posts, I'm just saying for future reference.

    Wow look at this timer0 go. Fluctuating back and forth like a boss.
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    Do Non-C Gear First! It is easier and doesn't require the L+R Buttons! Do NON-C GEAR!!!!

    Anyways, just hatched a shiny Frillish for fizzay. It is female! Woot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiser soze View Post
    -RNG abuse actually takes skill. Trying to make a 1/1366, let alone 1/8192 event happen with luck til it happens screams you don't have a life.
    - The biggest draw to RNGed pokemon is for flawless IVs, which are way more useful than a color swap.
    - It's an exploitable in-game feature, just like EVs and IV breeding.
    - Nintendo notes that it is legal; it's not cheating by their own definitions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DerpFloon0089 View Post
    Hey guys, is there another way to get the same effect as Soft Resetting?
    Cause when I start my ZomgTimer for first stage , I realized that my DS lite shoulder buttons don't work.
    Also I'm doing C-gear seed method and My first time RNGing.
    If you have a DS lite, why don't you try standard seed instead of C-Gear? No delays, and you can control Nature/Ability/Shininess. You can also limit your keypresses to exclude the L+R (shoulder) buttons in the parameters.
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    Congrats Tarro.

    I come back from swmming for lke 45 minutes, another page.. This thread is


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    so anyone have any idea on the progress of fixing rng'ing so that it's fair. the limit to ds/ds lite makes this seem like cheating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by othinlol View Post
    so anyone have any idea on the progress of fixing rng'ing so that it's fair. the limit to ds/ds lite makes this seem like cheating.
    Get a DS lite they aren't that expensive.
    there is C-Gear RNGing if you do own a 3DS or a DSi. C-Gear is just a little harder and requires more effort to pull off.
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    Thanks but once I start something, I like to finish it but I'll try standard seed once I succeed at this one.
    But I'm guessing I'm out of luck since Soft Reset is broken for me?
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