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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter02 View Post
    Kyurem in B/W2 is a bit difficult since there is some random PID advancements in its cave (this is not the case in B/W though). If you get the right IVs but wrong nature and it isn't shiny, then that is the problem here. You will have to check your shifted starting frame first, and when you know it, you need to do the right amount of advancements the next time you try. If you instead are getting the wrong IVs, then you have just hit the wrong Timer0 which is very common but has no real solution other than trying again.
    Ah, I see, I wasn't accounting for that, as for the timer0, I was hitting somewhere between 1104-1108 though this is the likely case because I wasn't accounting for that advancement, however I think I did hit the frame I wanted twice as I got a jolly kyurem that often scatters things twice, but due to not realizing that PID advancement I wouldn't have been able to correctly reproduce that frame again which is why I got what I did after those multiple tries.
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    After numerous attempts and failures, I finally managed to get my own shiny Uxie! It really proved to be a tricky one with all the NPCs running around in the city. I actually had to hit my timer0 and frame 3 times because I managed to knock it out with a critical hit twice.. Talk about bad luck, especially with such an annoying catch.

    I also noticed something weird while RNG'ing the Uxie. I used two different seeds, first one with a shiny on frame 437 but wanted one with less frame advances so I found another one which had a shiny on frame 201. I managed to get the first shiny before changing to the other seed, doing nothing out of ordinary and simply stopping the frame advances 1 before my target frame. On the second seed though, when I did this I never got a shiny when I did exactly the same thing. Propably the NPCs advancing the frame between closing the menu and talking to Uxie. So I tried again, still stopping 1 frame before my target and again, no shiny. 3rd and 4th times I tried stopping one or two frames earlier but still had no luck. Finally I gave up and went back to using the first seed, and voila, got a shiny Uxie (which I then also knocked out) very soon by once again by stopping one frame before the target frame. Third time's the charm though, finally caught the shiny pixie after a long fight.

    All of this made me think that the NPCs might not be all that random. They acted very consistently on the first seed, always advancing the starting frame by 31 and never after the advances, and also on the second one since they always advanced the starting frame by 30 and always after the advances as well. Or, maybe I was just lucky. Knowing this might help someone else in the future though so I thought I'd write it down.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MokKish View Post
    After numerous attempts and failures, I finally managed to get my own shiny Uxie! It really proved to be a tricky one with all the NPCs running around in the city. I actually had to hit my timer0 and frame 3 times because I managed to knock it out with a critical hit twice.. Talk about bad luck, especially with such an annoying catch.

    I also noticed something weird while RNG'ing the Uxie. I used two different seeds, first one with a shiny on frame 437 but wanted one with less frame advances so I found another one which had a shiny on frame 201. I managed to get the first shiny before changing to the other seed, doing nothing out of ordinary and simply stopping the frame advances 1 before my target frame. On the second seed though, when I did this I never got a shiny when I did exactly the same thing. Propably the NPCs advancing the frame between closing the menu and talking to Uxie. So I tried again, still stopping 1 frame before my target and again, no shiny. 3rd and 4th times I tried stopping one or two frames earlier but still had no luck. Finally I gave up and went back to using the first seed, and voila, got a shiny Uxie (which I then also knocked out) very soon by once again by stopping one frame before the target frame. Third time's the charm though, finally caught the shiny pixie after a long fight.

    All of this made me think that the NPCs might not be all that random. They acted very consistently on the first seed, always advancing the starting frame by 31 and never after the advances, and also on the second one since they always advanced the starting frame by 30 and always after the advances as well. Or, maybe I was just lucky. Knowing this might help someone else in the future though so I thought I'd write it down.


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    was this black and white 2 or dpp? either way that shiny looks nice good job. I am having a same problem with my bw2 actually im trying to rng cress which i can't hit the frame at all for it being shiny or the right hp spread. I have no problem with events in that game just the stationaries are giving me trouble. I just think it has to do one the NPC and on top of it some searches i have trouble and then use another and i get it but that applies to black and white rng breeding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FairyWitch View Post
    was this black and white 2 or dpp? either way that shiny looks nice good job. I am having a same problem with my bw2 actually im trying to rng cress which i can't hit the frame at all for it being shiny or the right hp spread. I have no problem with events in that game just the stationaries are giving me trouble. I just think it has to do one the NPC and on top of it some searches i have trouble and then use another and i get it but that applies to black and white rng breeding.
    White2. Getting the right timer0 is very annoying in these compared to BW, but if you're sure that you've entered right TID/SID then sooner or later you'll get the right Cress. Just be patient & listen to those Chatots so you'll know if you've hit the seed or not.
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    I want to use the RNG Reporter to catch shiny pokemon in my White, but I don't know my SID.
    I already caught a legitimate shiny pokemon, is there a way to find my SID with its IVs?

    The main post tells me to use pokecheck or restart my game but I don't want to restart it unless is completely necessary. As everybody knows, the Nintendo servers (Wifi connection) for this generation are closed, so I can't use pokecheck website.

    Are these the only two ways to find it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deoxys532 View Post
    I want to use the RNG Reporter to catch shiny pokemon in my White, but I don't know my SID.
    I already caught a legitimate shiny pokemon, is there a way to find my SID with its IVs?

    The main post tells me to use pokecheck or restart my game but I don't want to restart it unless is completely necessary. As everybody knows, the Nintendo servers (Wifi connection) for this generation are closed, so I can't use pokecheck website.

    Are these the only two ways to find it?
    No, there is another way to find your SID, I'll PM you regarding it due to the mention of 3rd party paraphernalia is frowned upon in the public forums.
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    Has anyone ever experienced this kind of issue? Where you succeeded in hitting a seed repeatedly, but at random points, with the same seed and exact same timing, suddenly you just keep missing the seed. For example... one of the common seeds I use for breeding (male, shiny, IV 31 all, Everstone, DW Ability) has me press A at the 15th second mark (the seed is on 16th second). So I do it like 20 times, hit the seed around 17 times, resulting in 17 successes. But then I try with the next thing on the "to RNG list", and all of a sudden, I just can't hit the seed even though I repeated the exact same steps as the last 20 times.

    Is this the game just giving me the finger and me giving the game the finger back for having a work around? When this happens (and this happens every now and then), I just press A half a second later than normal. Or 1/4th of a second. Or 3/4 of a second. And usually, that solves the issue.
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    EDIT: For whatever reason my White version is working better at RNGing then my Black. So... this post is kinda no longer relevant. But I'll report on my White I have a custom TID and a shiny starter successfully RNGd!

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    Hello! I've gotten good advice from this forum, so I have a question once again.

    After a lot of RNG on Black 2, I want to RNG on Black or White. I already reset my White version, and was able to get a custom TID. However, since then I haven't successfully RNGd any Pokemon. I still have my Black, which I have been trying to find the Timer0 range. On my White, the only range I found was C7C - C7D so far on my black I've only found two timer0s C7F & C80 But I don't really know which is first or if thats even a good range. I believe the reason that I haven't found anything on my White is I don't have a good Timer0 range set. on my Black 2 I have a range of 4 Timer0s (1104 - 1107)

    So to sum up, How do the Timer0 count up in B/W? (like which of my set of C7F & C80 is first, and how many are in-between them?) and is what I have a good range to start my restart on? (so I can find the SID and get shinys)
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    It seems like you figured out your problem, but I want to clarify one thing for you. Black and White does, unlike their sequels, not have that many different Timer0s for each game. Black and White has two different Timer0s as a max, and only one if you are extremely lucky (though I think this is quite rare). The two you got while calibrating are the only ones you have for each of your games. For everything in these games, it is recommended that you just go with the one that you got most of the time while you were calibrating and ignore the other completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DX 2401PT View Post
    Has anyone ever experienced this kind of issue? Where you succeeded in hitting a seed repeatedly, but at random points, with the same seed and exact same timing, suddenly you just keep missing the seed. For example... one of the common seeds I use for breeding (male, shiny, IV 31 all, Everstone, DW Ability) has me press A at the 15th second mark (the seed is on 16th second). So I do it like 20 times, hit the seed around 17 times, resulting in 17 successes. But then I try with the next thing on the "to RNG list", and all of a sudden, I just can't hit the seed even though I repeated the exact same steps as the last 20 times.

    Is this the game just giving me the finger and me giving the game the finger back for having a work around? When this happens (and this happens every now and then), I just press A half a second later than normal. Or 1/4th of a second. Or 3/4 of a second. And usually, that solves the issue.
    yes it happens to me too I think its just moving npc im having trouble atm with slowpoke -_- I have always had that problem since the beginning of when i started rnging and it just never stops when I breed with my black version which my theory the game hates me really bad and sometimes i have the seed on 16th chatot cry then the next time it moves to 17th it never stays put i think it is just moving npcs around the daycare center.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FairyWitch View Post
    yes it happens to me too I think its just moving npc im having trouble atm with slowpoke -_- I have always had that problem since the beginning of when i started rnging and it just never stops when I breed with my black version which my theory the game hates me really bad and sometimes i have the seed on 16th chatot cry then the next time it moves to 17th it never stays put i think it is just moving npcs around the daycare center.
    That's not the problem that I'm having. I mean that I often hit a completely different seed. NPC movements are not that erratic if you track the Chatot Chatter. There is variance, of course. That ONE dude that turns out every now and then, he may NOT turn, or he may turn more frequently. This type of issue occurs all over the place, regardless of NPC presence. When I RNGed Kyurem where there are no NPCs. Or Ditto where there are no NPCs. Cobalion, Terrakion, Virizion. Imagine the seed you're trying to hit lists the Chatot Chatter as: low, low, high, mid, high, low, high. NPC movements just mean you start at a different location in that sequence. But for some reason, despite doing the exact same things as all the other times, the Chatot Chatter goes: high, high, low, mid, which does not exist in the sequence of the seed I'm trying to hit.

    Perhaps it's a calibration error. I distinctly recall not being bothered to calibrate all that much for White and White2, so the calibrated Timer0 may not be the most accurate value.
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