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    Quote Originally Posted by dewey911p View Post
    If the DNS is being auto directed to the actual GTS it is your ISP, not the router or computer. There is no fix for that since it is set by your ISP. You can try a friends house, public wi-fi (which is usually hit-or-miss, mostly miss from what I hear), change ISPs, or try calling and complaining. Aside from that though, there is nothing you can do when the issue is with the policy of your ISP.
    So it's Verizon's issue? This is odd since I had no problems with this a year ago, and I was using the same connection I am using now.
    Thanks for the help Dewey. I'll look into my other options.
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    -RNG abuse actually takes skill. Trying to make a 1/1366, let alone 1/8192 event happen with luck til it happens screams you don't have a life.
    - The biggest draw to RNGed pokemon is for flawless IVs, which are way more useful than a color swap.
    - It's an exploitable in-game feature, just like EVs and IV breeding.
    - Nintendo notes that it is legal; it's not cheating by their own definitions.

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    So I have 4 flawless eggs on my Y version. Anyone want to help me find their shiny values?
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    Not sure if this thread is still active or if there's another thread somewhere, but here goes anyway:

    I'm new to gen 5 rng (I have White 2). I did manage to succesfully rng a 5iv shiny Virizion so I know I'm doing something right. Since then I've been trying to rng terrakion and cobalion with no luck. I have a couple of questions I haven't been able to find an answer to.

    1. I know there are multiple Timer0's in BW2. In theory, can I rng with any of them since it's kinda random which one is chosen, or do I have to use a spesific one? I caught Virizion with the first Timer0 the program found for me, but I've noticed I keep hitting another one more often.

    2. The seed I found would give me a jolly 31/31/31/0/31/31 stationary and only requires 3 frame advancements for a shiny. I've hit the seed multiple times but didn't get a shiny after the advances. Are the wandering NPCs affecting the frame on these routes (22 and 13) so that it's impossible to get a shiny with that seed and so few frame asvances? Should I use another seed? Also, is there a list somewhere for routes / areas with no WNPCs?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated, this is all still very confusing for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MokKish View Post
    Not sure if this thread is still active or if there's another thread somewhere, but here goes anyway:

    I'm new to gen 5 rng (I have White 2). I did manage to succesfully rng a 5iv shiny Virizion so I know I'm doing something right. Since then I've been trying to rng terrakion and cobalion with no luck. I have a couple of questions I haven't been able to find an answer to.

    1. I know there are multiple Timer0's in BW2. In theory, can I rng with any of them since it's kinda random which one is chosen, or do I have to use a spesific one? I caught Virizion with the first Timer0 the program found for me, but I've noticed I keep hitting another one more often.

    2. The seed I found would give me a jolly 31/31/31/0/31/31 stationary and only requires 3 frame advancements for a shiny. I've hit the seed multiple times but didn't get a shiny after the advances. Are the wandering NPCs affecting the frame on these routes (22 and 13) so that it's impossible to get a shiny with that seed and so few frame asvances? Should I use another seed? Also, is there a list somewhere for routes / areas with no WNPCs?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated, this is all still very confusing for me.
    The Timer0 value fluctuates but there should be a value that is more common than the others. IT is best to find the value that is most common and just stick to that. You can use any Timer0 value that shows up, yes, but it may take forever to hit one of the less common values. Calibrate ~20 times and see what value is most common and use that. For my Black 2 on a DS Lite I use 1104-1106 for my Timer0 range as 1104 and 1106 are the 2 most common values for me. I have even successfully used 1105 on 2 occasions, but I ttry to avoid that value because it doesn't show up as often.


    As for the NPCs, yes, they will advance the PIDRNG. If you're aiming for a PIDRNG frame 3 frames after the starting frame then the NPCs in the area will make it impossible for you to hit that frame. You'll need a frame farther in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dewey911p View Post
    The Timer0 value fluctuates but there should be a value that is more common than the others. IT is best to find the value that is most common and just stick to that. You can use any Timer0 value that shows up, yes, but it may take forever to hit one of the less common values. Calibrate ~20 times and see what value is most common and use that. For my Black 2 on a DS Lite I use 1104-1106 for my Timer0 range as 1104 and 1106 are the 2 most common values for me. I have even successfully used 1105 on 2 occasions, but I ttry to avoid that value because it doesn't show up as often.


    As for the NPCs, yes, they will advance the PIDRNG. If you're aiming for a PIDRNG frame 3 frames after the starting frame then the NPCs in the area will make it impossible for you to hit that frame. You'll need a frame farther in.
    Thanks, that helped a lot. I already figured I should use another seed with a further frame but wanted to be sure first because 3 advances looks ao perfect on paper. I should be able to use that seed on a map with no WNPCs though, right?

    I'll try to find another seed with other Timer0. I already know my most common one so I'll go with that now. I'll post/update if and when I get results.

    Just a few more things:
    Is there some sort of average on how much NPCs affect the frame? E.g. should I pick a seed with at least 50 frame advancements to be sure I won't accidentally end up too far?
    And lastly, when do the NPCs advance the frame? As soon as I enter the game, after I've listened to Chatots, both, or is it just random? What I mean is that if my target is frame 70, is it possible that I'd need to stop already somewhere far before 69 to actually end up in 70. Hope you understand what I mean.

    Edit: Just caught perfect shiny Terrakion! The target frame was 179 and I advances 'till 178 as usual. Frames started about 5 later than RNG reporter said they would but that's just the NPCs then. Guess that answers everything I wanted to know then. Thanks once more for your help.
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    You should have no problem using a seed with 3 advances in an area with no NPCs.

    As for how many frames the NPCs will advance, there is no set number. If there is only 1 NPC in the area it won't be too far off from what RNGR tells you, but when there are multiple NPCs it can get pretty out of hand (B/W2 Uxie gave a lot of people hell). The NPCs can advance the frame both before you pull up the start menu and after you close it. So long as you are quick about closing the menu and starting the battle you shouldn't have any issues (though the occasional fast moving NPCs can still throw things off), but if you take to long to start the battle, or sweet scent, then the NPCs will keep doing there thing.

    Congrats on the successful RNG though! Personally, I think shiny Terrakion is a sexy beast
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    Hey I'm new to RNG'ing in Gen5 I've got my SID/TID already etc etc. Anyways during calibration I did 10 tries and got these results
    10F2
    10F6
    10F3
    10F4
    10F4
    10F5
    10F2
    10F5
    10F2
    10F4
    10F2
    10F4
    As you can see I got both 10F2 3 times and 10F4 4 times.
    Now I'm trying to Catch a Shiny Virizon(Got my seed and everything already) But I've caught it about 15 times with these results
    10F3
    10F3
    10F3
    10F6
    10F5
    10F2
    10F3
    10F3
    10F2
    Then I stopped keeping track but F2's F3's F5 and F6's came up, no F4's. Why the hell am I getting all these 10F2's and 10F3's now? I'm thinking of recalibrating to 10F2 or 10F3 since 10F2 came up a few times during initial calibration but 10F3 did not, now it is? Whaaaat? Whyyyy? Why 10F4 most common there yet not now? Am I doing something wrong? And is there a way to limit the Timer0's so that they're more likely to hit the one I want?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeelGood View Post
    Hey I'm new to RNG'ing in Gen5 I've got my SID/TID already etc etc. Anyways during calibration I did 10 tries and got these results
    10F2
    10F6
    10F3
    10F4
    10F4
    10F5
    10F2
    10F5
    10F2
    10F4
    10F2
    10F4
    As you can see I got both 10F2 3 times and 10F4 4 times.
    Now I'm trying to Catch a Shiny Virizon(Got my seed and everything already) But I've caught it about 15 times with these results
    10F3
    10F3
    10F3
    10F6
    10F5
    10F2
    10F3
    10F3
    10F2
    Then I stopped keeping track but F2's F3's F5 and F6's came up, no F4's. Why the hell am I getting all these 10F2's and 10F3's now? I'm thinking of recalibrating to 10F2 or 10F3 since 10F2 came up a few times during initial calibration but 10F3 did not, now it is? Whaaaat? Whyyyy? Why 10F4 most common there yet not now? Am I doing something wrong? And is there a way to limit the Timer0's so that they're more likely to hit the one I want?
    Yeah, B/W2 RNGing is terrible when it comes to Timer0 fluctuation. If F2 or F3 is coming up more often, switch your setting in RNGr to that value and try to find a seed with that Timer0. It will change a lot, but you should be able to narrow it down to a range. For my Black 2 with a DS Lite I set my Timer0 range to 1104-1106. I find those two values appear enough that I can use them without going crazy, ut I still get other values a lot. The only real thing you can do is to keep trying. Also, keep calibrating with Virizion to see if you can spot the values that are most common. I did the same thing when I first calibrated for Black 2, I found what I thought was my most common value, tried to RNG Terrakon, kept adjudicating the value until I finally found a working seed.
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    So, it appears they have shutdown the site that had all the encounter slots listed for Gen 3-5. Does anyone have backups of anything? I did manage to find a few but am missing a great deal. Looking especially for the Platinum old rod/good rod/super rod encounter slot list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathknight View Post
    So, it appears they have shutdown the site that had all the encounter slots listed for Gen 3-5. Does anyone have backups of anything? I did manage to find a few but am missing a great deal. Looking especially for the Platinum old rod/good rod/super rod encounter slot list.
    Hi Guys,

    does anyone have the encounter tables for gen5 especially the hidden grotto encounters tables?
    I haven't rnged for quite some time and I don't have backups of these.

    I'd really appreaciate it if someone could give me a link or send me some screenshots of those.

    I guess I am not the only one with this problem, am I?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathknight View Post
    So, it appears they have shutdown the site that had all the encounter slots listed for Gen 3-5. Does anyone have backups of anything? I did manage to find a few but am missing a great deal. Looking especially for the Platinum old rod/good rod/super rod encounter slot list.
    here's an Archived dropbox of encounter tables (by another member): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...25/slot345.zip (it's a download in csv/xls and htm format)

    Quote Originally Posted by Agdorn View Post
    Hi Guys,

    does anyone have the encounter tables for gen5 especially the hidden grotto encounters tables?
    I haven't rnged for quite some time and I don't have backups of these.

    I'd really appreaciate it if someone could give me a link or send me some screenshots of those.

    I guess I am not the only one with this problem, am I?

    ~Orn
    Here's the Hidden Grotto Tables (also by another member): http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12206225/grotto.htm (also needs to be downloaded)

    the eggmove . com links are off because the domain they're in is for sale
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuoteMissy View Post
    here's an Archived dropbox of encounter tables (by another member): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...25/slot345.zip (it's a download in csv/xls and htm format)



    Here's the Hidden Grotto Tables (also by another member): http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12206225/grotto.htm (also needs to be downloaded)

    the eggmove . com links are off because the domain they're in is for sale
    THANK YOU for posting these!!!! I just moved and changed comps and I keep running into roadblocks when I try to get back into RNGing, like these links missing! I just noticed a couple days ago that the download link for Eontimer is down too. Any chance someone has a backup for that? I'd like to finish RNGing my entralink mons in White/Black : )

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    Yeah I have that
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/vfqqtk848p8k0hw/EonTimer.zip

    Can't believe they didn't have any mirror links anywhere though.

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    Hello! I am attempting RNG for the first time! I have my SID, as I created a save file on Black 2 just for this. My Goal is shiny Pokemon. Any Shiny at all. (IVs are a good bonus) I am on a Mac so I use PPRNG, and have my game calibrated, sorta, I have a range of Time0s set. I have received 1104, 1105, & 1107. I understand that the Vcount & Vframe don't change and my results verify this during my repetitive calibration tests. I am attempting to hit my frame in the Castelia City Park, as there is only one NPC there and he does not move. (Does he still advance the frame rate?) I have traded over two Chatots, a Combee, (for sweet scenting) and a female Jigglypuff for Cute Charm. So my desired target is Cute Charmed, near flawless Relaxed with a target frame of 60 and initial frame of 58. That means two Chatot crys right? or does sweet scenting advance the frame, which would mean one Chatot? In any event, I've tried both. (I'm also unsure wether the C-Gear should be on or off?) I know I have a 1 second Delay, and I'm doing this on one of my spare DSs, a DS Lite. (So I have the second counter) I also hold the held buttons until I see the star appear, from as soon as I press A. I have attempted to catch the non-Shiny Pokemon that appear after all has done, but they do not usually have natures that are anywhere near the target frame. If someone could answer my questions, (one Chatot cry or two for 2 frame advance? & C-Gear on/off?) And/Or tell me if I'm doing something wrong?
    I have a form of autistum, plaese be kind to me, I don't know too much stuff, But I've been a pokemon fan for a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mars714 View Post
    Hello! I am attempting RNG for the first time! I have my SID, as I created a save file on Black 2 just for this. My Goal is shiny Pokemon. Any Shiny at all. (IVs are a good bonus) I am on a Mac so I use PPRNG, and have my game calibrated, sorta, I have a range of Time0s set. I have received 1104, 1105, & 1107. I understand that the Vcount & Vframe don't change and my results verify this during my repetitive calibration tests. I am attempting to hit my frame in the Castelia City Park, as there is only one NPC there and he does not move. (Does he still advance the frame rate?) I have traded over two Chatots, a Combee, (for sweet scenting) and a female Jigglypuff for Cute Charm. So my desired target is Cute Charmed, near flawless Relaxed with a target frame of 60 and initial frame of 58. That means two Chatot crys right? or does sweet scenting advance the frame, which would mean one Chatot? In any event, I've tried both. (I'm also unsure wether the C-Gear should be on or off?) I know I have a 1 second Delay, and I'm doing this on one of my spare DSs, a DS Lite. (So I have the second counter) I also hold the held buttons until I see the star appear, from as soon as I press A. I have attempted to catch the non-Shiny Pokemon that appear after all has done, but they do not usually have natures that are anywhere near the target frame. If someone could answer my questions, (one Chatot cry or two for 2 frame advance? & C-Gear on/off?) And/Or tell me if I'm doing something wrong?
    Sweet Scenting does advance the frame, also leave the C-Gear off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuoteMissy View Post
    Sweet Scenting does advance the frame, also leave the C-Gear off.
    Thank you, I got a shiny Eevee! I do have one more question though, I restarted my Black version (with a successful custom TID!) and am looking for the PPRNG encounter slots numbers for it, I tried the Eggmove .com link, but they only seem to have Black 2 encounter slots still. Did anyone happen to save the Black 1 encounter slots?
    I have a form of autistum, plaese be kind to me, I don't know too much stuff, But I've been a pokemon fan for a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mars714 View Post
    Thank you, I got a shiny Eevee! I do have one more question though, I restarted my Black version (with a successful custom TID!) and am looking for the PPRNG encounter slots numbers for it, I tried the Eggmove .com link, but they only seem to have Black 2 encounter slots still. Did anyone happen to save the Black 1 encounter slots?
    Here's a compilement of all the encounter slots (it's more recent than the earlier links) : https://sites.google.com/site/pokemonslots/
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    I've been trying to RNG a perfect IV pokemon traded from NPC Yancy in Nimbasa. Does anyone have experience about this?

    From what I've read it can be done since the pokemon she trades don't have fixed natures/IVs. There are some WNPCs there so I guess I should start looking for the starting frame a bit further than suggested by rng reporter. I still have a few questions since I've never RNGd anything but stationaries.

    - is it considered a gift pokemon (aka encounter type should be set to gift pokemon)?
    - when searching for the seed, do I set the starting frame to 1 or 8 (or something else)?
    - if it's other than 1, do I need to advance the frames myself or is it automatically done?

    Thanks for anyone who can help.

    EDIT: so I already figured this out myself through trial and error.
    To RNG a non-fixed in-game trade like all of the pokemon Yancy/Curtis trade you, the encounter type is Gift pokemon and Min/Max Frame is 1.
    I still haven't got my desired pokemon (Contrary Spinda) because of the WNPCs, but I did hit the correct seed/timer0 because I've been checking the IVs and one of them already had perfect 31s everywhere.
    Now I just have to find my exact frame and advance 'till I get my desired nature. Also trying to find out if the pokemon can be shiny (ID:10303/SID:0).

    I'm not exactly sure if this is all worth the trouble since the pokemon don't have any eggmoves, but it's nice to know anyway.

    (Propably) FINAL EDIT: I've encountered something I find a little odd. So, I was trying to get a shiny Spinda from Yancy with the ID/SID I mentioned earlier (read somewhere that'd be the combination).
    After about trillion tries I finally hit my timer0, seed and target frame, but it wasn't shiny. I'm 100% sure it's the right one since the Chatots sounded exactly like they we're supposed to and there wasn't another Jolly anywhere even remotely close.
    The odd part was that RNG reporter shows you characteristics your pokemon should have, but in this case it was wrong allthough it had been correct every other time.
    I'm guessing it might have something to do with Yancy's pokemon being shiny locked or something. Guess I'll just settle for a non-shiny then.
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    I would assume the Pokemon you get from Yancy/Curtis are all shiny locked. I believe the same goes for all Pokemon you recieve through in-game trades, but I am not completely sure regarding either. Well done anyway, you figured out things and did testing on your own which is always good if you want a definitive answer for something regarding RNGing. This thread is unfortunately not as active as it was in the past, but ask away if you have any more questions or need help with something.
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