*Revamped RNG Discussion/Help Thread [Do not ask about Gen 6 RNG]

[Byzantine]

First off: What type of RNG are you doing?

Secondly: the timer0 values do not need to be near eachother, i have two beside eachother and a third I still haven't figured out.

[Agonist]

First off: What type of RNG are you doing?

Secondly: the timer0 values do not need to be near eachother, i have two beside eachother and a third I still haven't figured out.

Ya, Timer0's need to be adjacent to each other.

[MoonRaker]

[QUOTE=Byzantine;15316800]First off: What type of RNG are you doing?

Secondly: the timer0 values do not need to be near eachother, i have two beside eachother and a third I still haven't figured out.[/QUOTE

I am using standard RNG no c gear for Black2 and should i be looking for a specific timer0 value or is anyone value i find usable? I am almost positive im doing everything else right the date/time, using a frame 1 pokemon to start off with. its really weird.

[Pidj]

New question. I've now got White2 and I've found my parameters for my 3ds (oddly my seconds seems to be 7) and I've settle on a timer0.

I'm want to RNG the event Genesect but so far haven't had much luck and I just want to check I'm doing it right and the issue I'm having is with the timer0.

So searching for my seed I'm using wondercard gen5 and I've set myself a number of advances I'm happy to do.

I find the seed paste it in and work out my starting frame to work out how many chatot flips I need to do. And then attempt to hit the seed.

Seems simple enough if that's it. Does the trainer ID not being my own have any bearing? (I'm not aiming for shiny).

EDIT: forgot to say I'm collecting the genesect in castelia or nimbasa as there seems to be no moving npc's there.

Also, does anybody have any tips for checking its IVs as it arrives at lvl 15? I'm not post E4 yet so no IV checker in nimbasa. At best I was thinking of checking its hidden power at the PWT.

Further to this, in the latest RNG Reporter there's a tickbox for BW2. When I click that my frame changes. I assume I'm meant to but it means the frame that was identified in the traget finder is now a different number to the one I now seem to have to hit. Is that an issue?

[SakuraLatias]

Further to this, in the latest RNG Reporter there's a tickbox for BW2. When I click that my frame changes. I assume I'm meant to but it means the frame that was identified in the traget finder is now a different number to the one I now seem to have to hit. Is that an issue?

Not an issue. If you used Memory Link as well, however, I'd tick that also.

[Konaru]

Wondering if anyone can help me.
I just got the RNG (I am using RNG Reporter 9.96.4 Beta) abuser and am trying to set my parameters. I imput all the information and IV and everything. I hit 'Search' in the Seed Encryption Variables section, and get that information, but nothing else happens. I've googled and looked at guides for answers but I cant find the answer. I dont know what Im supposed to do to get anything to show up in the Results box. I would appreciated greatly if anyone could help me.

[dewey911p]

Wondering if anyone can help me.
I just got the RNG (I am using RNG Reporter 9.96.4 Beta) abuser and am trying to set my parameters. I imput all the information and IV and everything. I hit 'Search' in the Seed Encryption Variables section, and get that information, but nothing else happens. I've googled and looked at guides for answers but I cant find the answer. I dont know what Im supposed to do to get anything to show up in the Results box. I would appreciated greatly if anyone could help me.

I'm not sure I understand your problem. I believe the issue is that you cannot find any results for your parameters right? If you are using B/W2 then you may have to manually adjust the search ranges for a few of the parameters (I haven't downloaded the newer versions so this issue may be resolved already). Make sure your Timer0 values are set to ~1000-1FFFF and make sure your VCount is set to 70-90. Those ranges are a unnecessarily wide, but that will ensure you find some results.

If you already have ranges similar to that (Timer0 doesn;t need to be that wide either) then you might have just missed the time or hit a button to early. If your ranges seem right than try again and make sure everything is filled out correctly. Correct version, language, DS type, MAC address, etc and make sure you leave the C-Gear off and don;t hit any buttons until the white nintendo splash screens pops up.

If I missed the problem completely then just post again with a few more details and we will see if we can get you off and RNGing in no time =)

[Konaru]

Nothing in there really help.
What im doing is trying to is the DS Parameters search (which assuming by the guide on SMogon that Im following, is the very first step)(My goal is to be RNG'ing for eggs.)
When I press "DS Parameters Search" and go to the DS Parameter Finder, I input all the information, I dont leave anything out but the box that says "First half of seed". After starting a game, imputing the time and IV's of the pokemon, I press search and the Seconds, VCount, Timer0, GXStat, and VFrame are all filled in, but that is all that happens. I dont know what to do after, the box, 'Results', where my seed is supposed to show, remains empty, and the button that says 'Send Results to Profile" remains greyed. I dont know what to do ater this. I have repeated the steps where I start the game with a timer and catch a pokemon 4 times, and have gotten not different results (different IV's and such, but not on the RNG reporter, still blank).
I dont know how to get the Results box in the DS Parameter Finder to display something, that is my problem.

Edit: Forgot to mention, Im using White.

Edit 2: I got it to work, turns out I was marking my time from the wrong spot, thought I had to do it from when it asks if I want the C gear.

[JTrainer]

I recently tried to RNG the Tirtouga in my entree forest (I heard that entralink pokemon do not require delay in BW2). I didn't get it right, and thought that I hit an adjacent seed, but when I checked, none of the IVs matched in any of my Timer0s. I hit the exact date and time, did the proper button presses, and I know I did not walk 128 steps so the starting frame should stay the same. I heard that entralink pokemon start on frame 25, but I heard from somewhere else that they start on 26 (I had it on 25). Can someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong?

[Ditto4Life]

I'm attempting RNGing for the first time with Black 2 on a 3DS. My offset time is 7 seconds rather than 1. I'm trying to catch Virizion on Route 11 since Cobalion has a walking NPC near it. I keep aiming for flawless stats, but keep ending up with the wrong ones......except I keep getting the same wrong ones. Is there a way to check what seed I'm hitting rather than what I'm aiming for?

[dewey911p]

I recently tried to RNG the Tirtouga in my entree forest (I heard that entralink pokemon do not require delay in BW2). I didn't get it right, and thought that I hit an adjacent seed, but when I checked, none of the IVs matched in any of my Timer0s. I hit the exact date and time, did the proper button presses, and I know I did not walk 128 steps so the starting frame should stay the same. I heard that entralink pokemon start on frame 25, but I heard from somewhere else that they start on 26 (I had it on 25). Can someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong?

I do believe that the starting IV frame for B/W2 entralink pokemon is 25. The easiest way to check would be to paste your seed into the main window and set it to Gen 5 IVs (Standard Seed) and hit generate and see if the IVs match frame 25 or 26 (Also, Entree Forest pokemon are stationary encounters iirc). Also, the IVRNG does not reset the step counter when you power off, so if you save your game at 127 steps, taking just one more when you turn your game on next will advance the IVRNG by the number of pokemon in your party. To reset the step counter you can always get into a battle with a wild pokemon and then setup to RNG. After that, you will still have to fight with ~6+ Timer0 values, but you should get it eventually.

I'm attempting RNGing for the first time with Black 2 on a 3DS. My offset time is 7 seconds rather than 1. I'm trying to catch Virizion on Route 11 since Cobalion has a walking NPC near it. I keep aiming for flawless stats, but keep ending up with the wrong ones......except I keep getting the same wrong ones. Is there a way to check what seed I'm hitting rather than what I'm aiming for?

Indeed there is. In Time Finder right click on your seed and hit "Generate Adjacent Seeds" from the drop down menu. In the pop up window fill everything out just like you did Time finder (paying close attention to the encounter type) and fill in your Timer0 range. Then hit generate and search for the corresponding IVs to see what Timer0 you hit. If you do not see the right IV set and are certain you set everything up correctly, than you missed you seed completely. Alternatively, if you are catching the pokemon as soon as you start the game and are not doing any IVRNG advancements, you can just run a parameter search using the seed's date and time and the IVs you got from the pokemon (this will not work with eggs, however). Honestly though, this really won't help you any but confirm that your Timer0 pulled a switcheroo on you. Once you know you were trolled by your Timer0 all you can do is try and try again or change seeds.

[Nyarlathotep]

Guys, I don't have any original cartridge of Generation V games, so... Will RNG work in a flashcard (DStwo)?
I read somewhere that it does not work, but the thread is very outdated.

If not, I'll try to RNG in Generation IV games. Thanks!

[dewey911p]

Guys, I don't have any original cartridge of Generation V games, so... Will RNG work in a flashcard (DStwo)?
I read somewhere that it does not work, but the thread is very outdated.

If not, I'll try to RNG in Generation IV games. Thanks!

You can RNG on a flashcart, yes. How though, is beyond me as I do retail only. I have heard that it is much more difficult to RNG on a flashcart as well, but again, I can't say so personally. As far as guides go, I have heard others mention them so just google it and you should find some promising results before long.

[Ditto4Life]

Indeed there is. In Time Finder right click on your seed and hit "Generate Adjacent Seeds" from the drop down menu. In the pop up window fill everything out just like you did Time finder (paying close attention to the encounter type) and fill in your Timer0 range. Then hit generate and search for the corresponding IVs to see what Timer0 you hit. If you do not see the right IV set and are certain you set everything up correctly, than you missed you seed completely. Alternatively, if you are catching the pokemon as soon as you start the game and are not doing any IVRNG advancements, you can just run a parameter search using the seed's date and time and the IVs you got from the pokemon (this will not work with eggs, however). Honestly though, this really won't help you any but confirm that your Timer0 pulled a switcheroo on you. Once you know you were trolled by your Timer0 all you can do is try and try again or change seeds.

So apparently I was aiming for a Timer0 that I have never hit when calibrating my game. Changing the seed worked! Thank you soooooooo much for your help!!!

[Flying Ludo]

Um.....now I'm wondering if it's just me but.... I have a problem with the RNG reporter program I downloaded from the 1st post of this thread. Adobe can't open it because it seems to be "damaged", so right now I'm running it with WinZip and it works just fine. The problem is, I'm using the evaluation version that will run out in less than a month so I won't be able to RNG anymore, unless I buy the full program or fix it with Adobe.

Does it fix by itself by downloading the latest version, or is there something else I should do?

[Nyarlathotep]

You can RNG on a flashcart, yes. How though, is beyond me as I do retail only. I have heard that it is much more difficult to RNG on a flashcart as well, but again, I can't say so personally. As far as guides go, I have heard others mention them so just google it and you should find some promising results before long.

Well I just needed the confirmation. I am going to google it for sure.

[Agonist]

Well I just needed the confirmation. I am going to google it for sure.

Yes, it's certainly possible, however, from what I've heard, there is much more variance in your parameters than an actual retail game, making it much more frustrating.

[Nyarlathotep]

Yes, it's certainly possible, however, from what I've heard, there is much more variance in your parameters than an actual retail game, making it much more frustrating.

Okay... I may buy a retail game if needed, but I'd rather buy B2 or W2 instead of B or W.
Does RNG works on the sequels? =(

There is another problem: I have a DSi, I've read that RNG doesn't work on this model.

[Agonist]

Okay... I may buy a retail game if needed, but I'd rather buy B2 or W2 instead of B or W.
Does RNG works on the sequels? =(

Of course, it's exactly the same as BW, except there are no longer C-Gear seeds, and you can't RNG eggs anymore (due to a coding error combined with a particularly stupid method of generating the egg).

There is another problem: I have a DSi, I've read that RNG doesn't work on this model.

That bit of information is very outdated, RNG abuse has been possible for nearly a year on those models.

[Nyarlathotep]

Thanks Agonist! If the problem is only the lack of a retail game, I think buying one isn't gonna hurt.