Duuuddee... Pass the blunt...

[Jb]

I say we should destroy all drugs and only keep a limited supply for medicinal purposes. I am a vehement anti-drug person. Can't stand the stuff. Same goes for liquor and alcohol.

You aren't serious are you?

[Qymaen]

You aren't serious are you?

Yes I am. The policy is extreme, but my hatred of drugs, alcohol, and liquor is quite high. Then again, that's my opinion.

[CSolarstorm]

I say we should destroy all drugs and only keep a limited supply for medicinal purposes. I am a vehement anti-drug person. Can't stand the stuff. Same goes for liquor and alcohol.

By 'keep a limited supply' do you mean reduce our existing supply? Cause we need all the medicine we have right now...

Otherwise I can certainly understand the dislike of all drugs. I wouldn't be for illegalizing tobacco or alcohol just because of principle, but personally I am 'against' them, you could say. Maybe not alcohol to a certain extent.

[Snorunt conservationist]

I say we should destroy all drugs and only keep a limited supply for medicinal purposes. I am a vehement anti-drug person. Can't stand the stuff. Same goes for liquor and alcohol.

Yaaaaaaaaaawn.

You aren't serious are you?

He's stealing your bit JB!

Otherwise I can certainly understand the dislike of all drugs. I wouldn't be for illegalizing tobacco or alcohol just because of principle, but personally I am 'against' them, you could say. Maybe not alcohol to a certain extent.

I expect better from someone who generally posts with a degree of intelligence and logic.

[Asmoday]

we should buy it like normal cigarettes it should be legalized everyones day would be much better with thee smoke ^^

[jelzin]

I am absolutely pro legalization. I can't see any major flaws, just good things are coming with it imo. Don't forget that the whole plant itself can be used for many, many things, ranging from clothing to sealing.

[taylor366]

put it this way.

had tobacco or alcohol been discovered in this day and age, they'd instantly be wrote off as a "Class A" drug and would not be legal.

however as it happens the old folk in charge of countries prefer to get fatter by drinking on a night as oppose to building a joint with way more beneficial effects than the "not so with it regarding drugs" type of guy.

[Qymaen]

By 'keep a limited supply' do you mean reduce our existing supply? Cause we need all the medicine we have right now...

Otherwise I can certainly understand the dislike of all drugs. I wouldn't be for illegalizing tobacco or alcohol just because of principle, but personally I am 'against' them, you could say. Maybe not alcohol to a certain extent.

More like keeping the existing drugs under extremely tight security which basically mean humans can not guard it.

[Malanu]

Yaaaaaaaaaawn.



He's stealing your bit JB!




I expect better from someone who generally posts with a degree of intelligence and logic.

Aww come on Sno. Everyone's entitled to their opinion. Personally I can argue for or against drug use as I have done nearly the full deck. I stopped short of needing rehab. Pot was the least of my ventures into altered reality. For the most part pot is less of a threat to life than alcohol has ever been. Until you get to the big money level.

Pot is reefered (pun) to as a gateway drug. It doesn't make you do heavier drugs, but it can lead you to think 'well pot wasn't that bad maybe this won't be either.' Many heavy drug addicts start with pot and then escalate.

On the other hand my wife toked everyday for almost the entire 23 years I've known her, and she was by far the best example of how pot doesn't make you lazy or unmotivated.

[Aquadon]

More like keeping the existing drugs under extremely tight security which basically mean humans can not guard it.

If this includes **** like Advil or other legitimate medicine, count me out. Fact of the matter is that there are many non-recreational drugs that are required for medical usage in the world today, and locking them all away in some fantasy vault with no key just isn't going to happen. Certain individuals, including some on this very board are in dire need of modern medicine due to illness or other issues and to just immediately pull the rug out from underneath them in terms of medication is a bad idea.

On the other hand, I'd understand why recreational drugs might be consider for outlaw, but as we continue to see everyday, that's not going to happen anytime soon. Even if we took all the drugs and threw them away, there would still be some trace of them in the world, and absolutely nothing to stop dealers from starting up the business again (whether it be tobacco or marijuana plants, or personal distilleries) I personally would be in favor of a Pot/Cigarette shuffle, although I know that by banning cigarettes we'd be turning a good portion of the world into a nervous wreck so it'd be illogical. As for alcohol, I feel like people know how to handle it well, although there is a good portion that go overboard with it (myself included on this one).

Finally, we get to marijuana. Taxing it was the primary reason (from what I know, I could be far off) that was the issue for illegalization (with a good smear campaign behind it). To be honest though, marijuana alone doesn't really have that many problems associated with it. As long as you're couch ridden, the social effects are little to nothing. Medically it supposedly has its uses for things like cancer (or anorexia if you listen to Pineapple Express). While I don't have many reliable sources other than first hand experience, I can say that a buzz off of weed shouldn't be any different than a buzz off of booze; I'd be for legalization of it. I could go on more about the benefits, but then I'd be talking out of my ***, so I'll call it like it is; I see no problem with a buzz like weed once in a while, as long as you don't overdo it.

[Jirachi X]

Personally, I am for the legalization of weed. All drugs really.

If you do it in your own home and aren't a threat to others; why should it be illegal?

[manifesto]

If you do it in your own home and aren't a threat to others; why should it be illegal?

Problem with this is that there are enough people who will be a threat to others. Other than that, I'd agree since I don't care about drugs one way or another.

[GhostAnime]

Tell me how marijuana even in public is a threat to others if there's say, a section for it. I'd like to hear this one.

[Jirachi X]

Tell me how marijuana even in public is a threat to others if there's say, a section for it. I'd like to hear this one.

The threat is best viewed in Dutch Muffins.

Go to a coffee shop in Amsterdam and just watch the carnage

[Malanu]

Problem with this is that there are enough people who will be a threat to others. Other than that, I'd agree since I don't care about drugs one way or another.

Well the only problem I have seen with smoking pot was when younger financially strapped smokers would break into houses to get pawnable stuff to support their habit. The smokers I know now a day fit it in their budget just like groceries, and fuel for their car.

[GhostAnime]

That's quite the specific scenario you're generalizing a population with.

[Malanu]

Maybe I am Ghost, but I'm just expressing my opinion based on my life's experience. It's bound to be a bit narrow in perspective.

[GhostAnime]

Anecdotal Evidence - Eyes open, folks! This one's a little different. Try NOT to support your argument with a story about your experience in the world. You may think smoking is awful, and every single smoker you've ever met may have been an utter cowpie of a human being, but that does not make a valid argument. Any experience you have is susceptible to being equally and inversely proportional to the experience of some other individual. Personal experience, once again, is frequently useless as support for your side of a debate. If you get caught basing your argument on anecdotal evidence, you will be laughed out of the Debate Forum.

Yeah......

[Malanu]

Hasn't happened yet Ghost, hasn't happened yet.

You know, this has been resonating in my head since we wrote it Ghost. I have a real world experience (anecdote) that explains my feelings on "facts" v experience.

When I became a Toolmaker Apprentice I was taught many formulas to determine optimum speeds and feeds (how fast a part or tool should spin and how fast it should go through the material) and depths of cuts. So there I am with my Journeyman, getting ready to take my first cut. My cutter chattered and skipped and ruined the part. I turned and looked at my formula again and double and triple checked my math. I had the data right, before I could ask the question, the Journeyman told me this, "That's a good place to start, but until you put the cutter to the stock, you don't know how it will cut."

The lesson I learned that day is, it doesn't matter how many facts you have learned, until you try it yourself you don't know what your doing or talking about. So if people wanna laugh at someone giving their life experience, let 'em, but I would rather hear what they have done to come to their beliefs rather than what they read.

[Butterfly]

anecdotal evidence is not evidence at all, it's just a story. it means nothing in a debate. just saying, bro. on this subject, yeah weed is probably one of if not THE least dangerous illegal drug, so it wouldn't be that big of a deal for it to be legalized. honestly, tobacco is significantly worse for you and lots of people still smoke cigs. economically, this could be a good move for the us because if you put a big tax on it when you legalize it, i bet that would help with our little money problem.