Duuuddee... Pass the blunt...

[ansem the wise]

http://www.cannabis-med.org/science/...efinitions.htm

That answers one question.

As to the rest, in my line of work I have seen the effects of this drug and I know that it does have at least most of those side effects : fatigue, memory problems, decreased motor capabilities, slurred speech, dizzyness. And it seems obvious that you would have lung problems, I mean you are lighting something on fire and breathing it in, that is not good for your lungs. As to the long -term medical problems, I haven't seen them firsthand but I have seen the others so it seems logical to believe that it could have other negative effects.

One other thing, think about which side would benefit more from lying to you. Cuz face it, they cant both be right, either its not harmful or it is.

[Zorocario]

http://www.cannabis-med.org/science/...efinitions.htm

That answers one question.

As to the rest, in my line of work I have seen the effects of this drug and I know that it does have at least most of those side effects : fatigue, memory problems, decreased motor capabilities, slurred speech, dizzyness. And it seem obvious that you would have lung problems, I mean you are lighting something on fire and breathing it in, that is not good for your lungs. As to the long -term medical problems, I haven't seen them firsthand but I have seen the others so it seems logical to believe that it could have other negative effects.

One other thing, think about which side would benefit more from lying to you. Cuz face it, they cant both be right, either its not harmful or it is.

My brother has smoked the weedz all his life and he has developed a nasty case of smokers cough. He doesn't smoke cigarettes, just cannabis.

[fango pango]

My brother has smoked the weedz all his life and he has developed a nasty case of smokers cough. He doesn't smoke cigarettes, just cannabis.

*no need for a the before weed at the start
*weed not weedz
*smoker's cough instead of smokers cough

If you're going to back someone up, please use the right grammar

I ain't siding with either here about whether it's good or bad , I ain't smoked the stuff

[Lolsgod]

You expect me to believe what they're saying? I can GUARANTEE you, it's the work of the govt. trying to brainwash us into thinking it's evil. If does indeed do those thing it says why is there medical marijuana dude? Marijuana doesn't have 43 chemicals in it either, it's just ******** the govt. came up with. It's got 1 chemical, and that's THC. THC is what gets you high not the plant. It's not like THC is bleach mixed with water mixed with dish soap mixed with soda mixed with cocaine, etc.. It's THC and that's it. The THC is stronger depending on how you grow it and the climate, etc.

EDIT: Marijuana has THC and chemicals known as cannabinoids. Those are all mostly burned off from the THC tho, meaning THC is the only real chemical in marijuana. There's also 500 chemicals in coffee, do you see police arresting people over it?

I like how you always fall to "facts are a lie" your method of argument is invalid, first you're using yourself as proof of no effect, just cuz you're fine doesn't mean everyone will be secondly you're using a method used mainly by religious group know as a undisprovable thesis, you say "weed is this" we disprove you and shift you're argument "weed is that" forcing the burden of proof on others making you're job only to bring up more or change the definition of your argument. Until you bring legitimate proof and while you're at it throw in a source to really sell me and then we'll see

[ShinyUmbreon189]

http://www.cannabis-med.org/science/...efinitions.htm

That answers one question.

As to the rest, in my line of work I have seen the effects of this drug and I know that it does have at least most of those side effects : fatigue, memory problems, decreased motor capabilities, slurred speech, dizzyness. And it seem obvious that you would have lung problems, I mean you are lighting something on fire and breathing it in, that is not good for your lungs. As to the long -term medical problems, I haven't seen them firsthand but I have seen the others so it seems logical to believe that it could have other negative effects.

You still don't know what your talking about. Your just going by ******** the govt. gives out to scare people into doing it. As I said, it's not the plant that harms the lungs it's the paper from blunts or joints. Yea, your lungs aren't intended to inhale smoke but marijuana is the least lethal smoke to inhale. Burning smoke from houses are poisonous, cigarette smoke is lethal because it's got rat poison in it or something, smoke from a grill is dangerous from the charcoal and can kill you. Marijuana smoke is just thick but doesn't exactly harm the lungs. Marijuana and lung cancer don't sync with eachother. But cigarette smoke and lung cancer does.

One other thing, think about which side would benefit more from lying to you. Cuz face it, they cant both be right, either its not harmful or it is.

I can guarantee you that marijuana does not cause dizziness, I smoke it all the time and I never get dizzy, it doesn't slur your speech either. It doesn't do anything to your voice, it just makes you sound more mellow or chilled that's all. Slurred speech is drunk not stoned, once again get your facts straight. With you being in college you should be intelligent enough to know the difference between the two, but apparently not. The fatigue, omg I'm surprised you can't figure this one out on your own. Marijuana's a muscle relaxer so yea it's gonna make you feel fatigued. This is why it helps with pain, the Cannabinoids which is chemicals I mentioned mixed in with the THC are what causes the fatigue, hunger, etc. The THC just gives you the body high or OBE. It doesn't give you memory problems either.. The only way it will give you memory problems is if your too stoned to think. I can do math problems and stay on track while blazed, I can play the guitar and stay in rhythm while stoned, I can rap and keep my flow while blown, etc. So no, it doesn't give you memory problems.

The paranoia from marijuana is usually when you smoke too much or your first couple tries. The reason for the paranoia is your body isn't used to the effects of the THC or you smoked too much in a time period. No matter how extreme the paranoia is, it's not enough to cause a heart attack or any major issues. All the paranoia does is, makes you shake, and a little scared because you too stoned that's it. I smoke so I know, I've been through it all. I've been doing research since I've smoked it, I've grown it, I've done everything possible with marijuana. You on the other hand know jack squat about this plant and just jumping to conclusions and trying to compare a rock with a brain which are two completely different things.

I didn't read that link because I can guarantee you it's another ******** article that's created by the govt. The govt. will do anything in they're power to stop people from doing it, when they themselves don't know what they're talking about. I'm sure lots of them smoke, they just wanna be hypocritical about everything. They know we enjoy smoking it and enjoy the effects so they won't legalize it. There's many things that are legalized that are more dangerous than marijuana. McDonalds cheeseburgers, caffeine, cleaning supplies, etc. I can go on all day with things that are more dangerous. The fumes from cleaning supplies while cleaning your house is 100x more dangerous on your body than 1 hit of marijuana.

[Lolsgod]

I can guarantee you that marijuana does not cause dizziness, I smoke it all the time and I never get dizzy, it doesn't slur your speech either. It doesn't do anything to your voice, it just makes you sound more mellow or chilled that's all. Slurred speech is drunk not stoned, once again get your facts straight. With you being in college you should be intelligent enough to know the difference between the two, but apparently not. The fatigue, omg I'm surprised you can't figure this one out on your own. Marijuana's a muscle relaxer so yea it's gonna make you feel fatigued. This is why it helps with pain, the Cannabinoids which is chemicals I mentioned mixed in with the THC are what causes the fatigue, hunger, etc. The THC just gives you the body high or OBE. It doesn't give you memory problems either.. The only way it will give you memory problems is if your too stoned to think. I can do math problems and stay on track while blazed, I can play the guitar and stay in rhythm while stoned, I can rap and keep my flow while blown, etc. So no, it doesn't give you memory problems.

The paranoia from marijuana is usually when you smoke too much or your first couple tries. The reason for the paranoia is your body isn't used to the effects of the THC or you smoked too much in a time period. No matter how extreme the paranoia is, it's not enough to cause a heart attack or any major issues. All the paranoia does is, makes you shake, and a little scared because you too stoned that's it. I smoke so I know, I've been through it all. I've been doing research since I've smoked it, I've grown it, I've done everything possible with marijuana. You on the other hand know jack squat about this plant and just jumping to conclusions and trying to compare a rock with a brain which are two completely different things.

I didn't read that link because I can guarantee you it's another ******** article that's created by the govt. The govt. will do anything in they're power to stop people from doing it, when they themselves don't know what they're talking about. I'm sure lots of them smoke, they just wanna be hypocritical about everything. They know we enjoy smoking it and enjoy the effects so they won't legalize it. There's many things that are legalized that are more dangerous than marijuana. McDonalds cheeseburgers, caffeine, cleaning supplies, etc. I can go on all day with things that are more dangerous. The fumes from cleaning supplies while cleaning your house is 100x more dangerous on your body than 1 hit of marijuana.

Quote Originally Posted by ShinyUmbreon189 View Post
You expect me to believe what they're saying? I can GUARANTEE you, it's the work of the govt. trying to brainwash us into thinking it's evil. If does indeed do those thing it says why is there medical marijuana dude? Marijuana doesn't have 43 chemicals in it either, it's just ******** the govt. came up with. It's got 1 chemical, and that's THC. THC is what gets you high not the plant. It's not like THC is bleach mixed with water mixed with dish soap mixed with soda mixed with cocaine, etc.. It's THC and that's it. The THC is stronger depending on how you grow it and the climate, etc.

EDIT: Marijuana has THC and chemicals known as cannabinoids. Those are all mostly burned off from the THC tho, meaning THC is the only real chemical in marijuana. There's also 500 chemicals in coffee, do you see police arresting people over it?


I like how you always fall to "facts are a lie" your method of argument is invalid, first you're using yourself as proof of no effect, just cuz you're fine doesn't mean everyone will be secondly you're using a method used mainly by religious group know as a undisprovable thesis, you say "weed is this" we disprove you and shift you're argument "weed is that" forcing the burden of proof on others making you're job only to bring up more or change the definition of your argument. Until you bring legitimate proof and while you're at it throw in a source to really sell me and then we'll see

miss this?

[Zorocario]

*no need for a the before weed at the start
*weed not weedz
*smoker's cough instead of smokers cough

If you're going to back someone up, please use the right grammar

I ain't siding with either here about whether it's good or bad , I ain't smoked the stuff

On the Interwebs grammars dont matter none, I thought you would know that buy now.

[Lolsgod]

On the Interwebs grammars dont matter none, I thought you would know that buy now.

stay on topic please

[ShinyUmbreon189]

I like how you always fall to "facts are a lie" your method of argument is invalid, first you're using yourself as proof of no effect, just cuz you're fine doesn't mean everyone will be secondly you're using a method used mainly by religious group know as a undisprovable thesis, you say "weed is this" we disprove you and shift you're argument "weed is that" forcing the burden of proof on others making you're job only to bring up more or change the definition of your argument. Until you bring legitimate proof and while you're at it throw in a source to really sell me and then we'll see

miss this?

How is my post invalid? Your just against it and have no idea what marijuana does nor what the effects are because you've most likely never done it before. 95% of the people that have posted in this thread have agreed with me in the past. Now, it seems no one but me knows what I'm talking about. I'm not using a religious group, I'm using ****ing facts from experience. I've grown the **** so I know what the plant does to the body. I didn't say it cures anything and I never said it's healthy. Jesus christ, it's like arguing with a 10 year old that has no clue what they're talking about but trying to sound like they do.

[Lolsgod]

How is my post invalid? Your just against it and have no idea what marijuana does nor what the effects are because you've most likely done it before. 95% of the people that have posted in this thread have agreed with me in the past. Now, it seems no one but me knows what I'm talking about. I'm not using a religious group, I'm using ****ing facts from experience. I've grown the **** so I know what the plant does to the body. I didn't say it cures anything and I never said it's healthy. Jesus christ, it's like arguing with a 10 year old that has no clue what they're talking about but trying to sound like they do.

Read clearly, slow down, im not attacking you, im saying how you are presenting your argument is not credible. I said you are using a ploy most religious groups use. let me explain, say i was a christian and you said "god doesn't exist" and i said "yes he does and he is omnipresent" and you go on to disprove god is omnipresent and then i say "well now god is omnipotent" forcing you to now disprove this second statement. apply this in the context of weed and now you have your argument style. Also claiming that i haven't done it and I don't know what im talking about let me tell you about myself, i am 17 friends with several people who smoke and are flunking classes and most days fail to show up. now i know you will claim im stereotyping but also my uncle died recently from smoking... lung cancer as a byproduct of smoking weed... think before you reply to this because you're treading on thin ice my friend

[ansem the wise]

How is my post invalid? Your just against it and have no idea what marijuana does nor what the effects are because you've most likely done it before. 95% of the people that have posted in this thread have agreed with me in the past. Now, it seems no one but me knows what I'm talking about. I'm not using a religious group, I'm using ****ing facts from experience. I've grown the **** so I know what the plant does to the body. I didn't say it cures anything and I never said it's healthy. Jesus christ, it's like arguing with a 10 year old that has no clue what they're talking about but trying to sound like they do.

dude, you are on an internet forum, no on gives a **** what you did. you need to provide evidence. (i learned that the hard way)
as to those side affects that u mentioned: one dude kept asking me the same question over and over even though i answered it every time he asked, if that doest count as memory problems i don't know what does. and the same thing with the dizzyness, why do you think cops have them walk the line?

[Zorocario]

stay on topic please

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I was just defending my views on interwebs grammar from a grammar nazi, but fine. Both by brother and sister have developed depression and anxiety problems from long term use, I have seen both of them go through their anxiety issues and it wasn't cool. My sister doesn't smoke anymore but she still has panic attacks, and my brother is still smoking despite all the things that are wrong with him.

[ShinyUmbreon189]

Read clearly, slow down, im not attacking you, im saying how you are presenting your argument is not credible. I said you are using a ploy most religious groups use. let me explain, say i was a christian and you said "god doesn't exist" and i said "yes he does and he is omnipresent" and you go on to disprove god is omnipresent and then i say "well now god is omnipotent" forcing you to now disprove this second statement. apply this in the context of weed and now you have your argument style. Also claiming that i haven't done it and I don't know what im talking about let me tell you about myself, i am 17 friends with several people who smoke and are flunking classes and most days fail to show up. now i know you will claim im stereotyping but also my uncle died recently from smoking... lung cancer as a byproduct of smoking weed... think before you reply to this because you're treading on thin ice my friend

I smoked in school and didn't flunk any classes, it helped me focus and pay attention more. My posts are credible because I used facts by comparing it to every other drug know to man, especially prescription meds. The only way you can IF get lung cancer from smoking marijuana is by smoking a ridiculous amount on a daily basis, smoking tobacco , or it was laced. Marijuana can be laced with tons of stuff that's lethal to the lungs without intensifying the effects of the marijuana, nor realizing it's laced until it's too late. I went over this about 6 pages ago. Marijuana has not lung problem links. All the links it has that are on record are from cigarette smokers, but also smoked chronic.

Since were giving out biographies I'll tell you about myself as well. I'm a 20 year old that resides 10 minutes from the hood of West Chicago in Illinois and I'm a rapper, guitar player, and work on computers. I smoke weed everyday but not in large amounts like a gram or 2 at most, and been doing it since I was 16. I have never used it as a gateway drug. I've never done blow, smack, meth, etc. I've only done marijuana, speed, ecstasy, LSD, PCP (accident), opium, and LSD. None of which are very dangerous. Other than PCP, speed, and ecstasy. PCP is never good neither is speed or x but x or speed once a year is just fine.

[Lolsgod]

I smoked in school and didn't flunk any classes, it helped me focus and pay attention more. My posts are credible because I used facts by comparing it to every other drug know to man, especially prescription meds. The only way you can IF get lung cancer from smoking marijuana is by smoking a ridiculous amount on a daily basis, smoking tobacco , or it was laced. Marijuana can be laced with tons of stuff that's lethal to the lungs without intensifying the effects of the marijuana, nor realizing it's laced until it's too late. I went over this about 6 pages ago. Marijuana has not lung problem links. All the links it has that are on record are from cigarette smokers, but also smoked chronic.

Since were giving out biographies I'll tell you about myself as well. I'm a 20 year old that resides 10 minutes from the hood of West Chicago in Illinois and I'm a rapper, guitar player, and work on computers. I smoke weed everyday but not in large amounts like a gram or 2 at most, and been doing it since I was 16. I have never used it as a gateway drug. I've never done blow, smack, meth, etc. I've only done marijuana, speed, ecstasy, LSD, PCP (accident), opium, and LSD. None of which are very dangerous. Other than PCP, speed, and ecstasy. PCP is never good neither is speed or x but x or speed once a year is just fine.

This description kinda proves everything i say right,you are such a stereotype for a druggie

[ShinyUmbreon189]

dude, you are on an internet forum, no on gives a **** what you did. you need to provide evidence. (i learned that the hard way)
as to those side affects that u mentioned: one dude kept asking me the same question over and over even though i answered it every time he asked, if that doest count as memory problems i don't know what does. and the same thing with the dizzyness, why do you think cops have them walk the line?

Once again you don't know what your talking about. Marijuana does not make you walk off-line you can walk in a straight line for a mile if you wanted to. My god, I'm getting really annoyed by your posts because all your posts are idiotic and have no meaning. Plus, use proper grammer dude. If your in college you should know how to complete a sentence correctly and spell correctly. **** I learned all this stuff in middle school.

[pokemonsquared]

There's nothing wrong with taking drugs under extreme moderation (and if you can not get busted for crack possession or something) it's when you commit crimes to steal money and become a waste of a person due to these drugs where these issues come in. From what I've seen shiny umbreon doesn't fall in either category.

[ShinyUmbreon189]

This description kinda proves everything i say right,you are such a stereotype for a druggie

What are you saying? Your just against it and don't know what your talking about. If you smoked it then you'd realize there's no issues with smoking it. I'm not a druggie either. I've only done opium once and it was laced with marijuana, PCP once laced with marijuana, ecstasy twice, speed once, shrooms I think 3 times and LSD twice. Shrooms nor LSD are dangerous in large amounts. As I said, I never used it as a gateway druge, I tried those drugs because I wanted to try them. You got a ****ing problem with it?

[TwitchyAssTaillow]

Marijuana is legal in my state... HOWEVER, just because it's legal, certain employers can still fire you if they have you take a drug test and find evidence of smoking marijuana. Right when it was passed, They had me take one and was supposedly a "random" drug test which I think is complete bull... It's a long story. I feel like I dodged a bullet, but it sure as well seemed like it was aimed at me on purpose. I just wonder if people got fired in my state just for having it in their blood but not being under the influence.

[Lolsgod]

What are you saying? Your just against it and don't know what your talking about. If you smoked it then you'd realize there's no issues with smoking it. I'm not a druggie either. I've only done opium once and it was laced with marijuana, PCP once laced with marijuana, ecstasy twice, speed once, shrooms I think 3 times and LSD twice. Shrooms nor LSD are dangerous in large amounts. As I said, I never used it as a gateway druge, I tried those drugs because I wanted to try them. You got a ****ing problem with it?

I'm not a druggie, I've just tried a bunch of drugs and am extremely defensive on the subject of... and I like how anyone who doesn't agree with you "doesn't know what they're talking about" Get you're head out of your *** the point I'm trying to get across is you are not RIGHT, you are not WRONG. You are not open minded either, thats a fatal flaw in many people you should over come it. As for this topic, you are extremely evasive when it gets down to it, you retreat alot to logical fallacies and dance around facts and you are STILL using yourself as a example of no negative effects.

[ShinyUmbreon189]

I'm not a druggie, I've just tried a bunch of drugs and am extremely defensive on the subject of... and I like how anyone who doesn't agree with you "doesn't know what they're talking about" Get you're head out of your *** the point I'm trying to get across is you are not RIGHT, you are not WRONG. You are not open minded either, thats a fatal flaw in many people you should over come it. As for this topic, you are extremely evasive when it gets down to it, you retreat alot to logical fallacies and dance around facts and you are STILL using yourself as a example of no negative effects.

No, your got it twisted bro. I'm only quoting stuff that is false. It does not make you dizzy, ansem the wise has no clue what he's talking about and never did from the start. I'm very open minded but when there's no evidence of death from marijuana smoke, that makes it non lethal. Every drug other than marijuana LSD, Salvia, and shrooms are the only drugs that aren't on record as addictive nor lethal. Everything I've posted is true, it's safer than most other drugs, it's not linked with health problems unless laced or other causes with marijuana in the system, everything. Your trying to say it's dangerous I'm trying to say it's not, and it's not.