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    Default Pokespe USUM arc speculation

    A new Pokemon Direct has passed. And with it, a new Pokemon game is announced: Pokemon Ultra Sun and Pokemon Ultra Moon.

    While it is possible for Kusaka to have it be one long arc, ala GSC and RS, which was actually called RSE in the magazines, it's entirely possible we could have a separate story, like Pt.

    Until it's confirmed, please keep any speculation about an arc based on the upcoming games here.

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    Disregarding the news about the 'alternate storyline' Ultra SuMo's apparently going to take, I think Sun and Moon will just get updated outfits like HGSS Crystal. The female PC has longer hair, so perhaps Spe will get a short/long timeskip and Ultra SM will be separate from SM like Pt and DP.

    Poor Popplio though, it really won't belong to any Dex Holder now.

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    They did show a bunch of Pikachu playing around in a certain area. This would be a good opportunity for Yellow to return. She could live in the Pikachu RV, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red and Blue View Post
    They did show a bunch of Pikachu playing around in a certain area. This would be a good opportunity for Yellow to return. She could live in the Pikachu RV, lol.
    Honestly, why not? Red and Green/Blue/Whatever already appeared in ORAS.
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    I'm just embarrassed for B2W2 (or USUM), since SM and USUM protagonists seem to be the same characters, that B2W2 had their own characters, but USUM did not.

    And USUM are unlikely to be integrated into a chapter with SM since USUM have their own titles.

    I do not know how they will deal the situation with three chapters synchronized serial. USUM chapter will be delaye? (like Platinum, HGSS, and B2W2) Or change B2W2 for occasional serialization or remove it.? Anyway, I just hope they will not be staged again the volume 53 event... oh. And hope USUM are not a parallel world with SM in the game as some people guess, please...

    And with the GS VC published, we have more reason to believe that there will be another huge Pokedex holders assembly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by e9310103838 View Post
    I'm just embarrassed for B2W2 (or USUM), since SM and USUM protagonists seem to be the same characters, that B2W2 had their own characters, but USUM did not.

    And USUM are unlikely to be integrated into a chapter with SM since USUM have their own titles.

    I do not know how they will deal the situation with three chapters synchronized serial. USUM chapter will be delaye? (like Platinum, HGSS, and B2W2) Or change B2W2 for occasional serialization or remove it.? Anyway, I just hope they will not be staged again the volume 53 event... oh. And hope USUM are not a parallel world with SM in the game as some people guess, please...

    And with the GS VC published, we have more reason to believe that there will be another huge Pokedex holders assembly.
    USUM will be a retelling of the SM story. So I don't think it will be a separate arc with SM running at the same time. Most likely it will be like Crystal and also Ruby and Sapphire. They are going to implement the new things within the same arc and maybe change the name accordingly. But I believe it's all going to be the same story in the manga, not two different arcs

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    They really don't make it easy on the manga writers, do they? Really, I think it'll come down to how different the games are from each other. The players they showed in the trailer could easily pass for Sun and Moon, but they also look slightly different. Here are the most likely scenarios:

    1. Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon will be adapted separately, a la Black 2 and White 2 with new protagonists.
    2. Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon will just be merged with the Sun and Moon arc, making them the first main series game without a corresponding arc. Sun and Moon just get a clothes change.

    Since the new games are said to be alternate takes on the originals, maybe this chapter will take place in another timeline? After all, the games have been incorporating a multiverse of sorts with Anabel. It's a stretch, but who knows what will happen.

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    It would be interesting if
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    Quote Originally Posted by iml908 View Post
    They really don't make it easy on the manga writers, do they?
    I mean, I'm pretty sure Kusaka knew about this, so he must have already adapted and see how he's going to combine SM and USUM. Maybe that's one of the reasons he's not following SM's story exactly like the game.

    Edit: By the way, sorry for asking here, but wasn't the first volume of SM supposed to come out this month? Has the cover been shown?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moni_22 View Post
    I mean, I'm pretty sure Kusaka knew about this, so he must have already adapted and see how he's going to combine SM and USUM. Maybe that's one of the reasons he's not following SM's story exactly like the game.

    Edit: By the way, sorry for asking here, but wasn't the first volume of SM supposed to come out this month? Has the cover been shown?
    They'll most likely reveal the cover for SM volume 1 once the site updates this month.

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    Oh boy, i really hope Kusaka knew about it beforehand but the way HGSS and B2W2 turned out makes me think he either doesn't get previous heads up from the Pokemon Company or he just doesn't plan accordingly.

    The best he can do is to have the Sun and Moon chapter to feature elements from the Ultra games. I like the idea of the new protagonists from these games being alternate dimension counterparts of Sun and Moon that somehow appear in the current Sun and Moon dimension.
    This way all four of them can share the spotlight as Dex Holders in the same chapter.

    That option would also serve as a way of having a different Cosmog that eventually evolves in either Lunala or Solgaleo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beat! View Post
    Oh boy, i really hope Kusaka knew about it beforehand but the way HGSS and B2W2 turned out makes me think he either doesn't get previous heads up from the Pokemon Company or he just doesn't plan accordingly.

    The best he can do is to have the Sun and Moon chapter to feature elements from the Ultra games. I like the idea of the new protagonists from these games being alternate dimension counterparts of Sun and Moon that somehow appear in the current Sun and Moon dimension.
    This way all four of them can share the spotlight as Dex Holders in the same chapter.

    That option would also serve as a way of having a different Cosmog that eventually evolves in either Lunala or Solgaleo.
    Pokespe can barely support two protagonists at this point.

    Adding two more, especially when we've barely fleshed out our current protagonists would be suicide for this arc. Game Freak doesn't even bother making different faces for the protags (seriously, I think the SMUSUM protags just use the XY protags' faces). A clothes change should suffice.

    And there's no real need for a second Cosmog. The book you read in Malie Library heavily implies that Nebby (or a previous Cosmog) was created by the Solgaleo/Lunala that appeared years ago. So the old one could just reappear, I guess.

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    Kusaka doesn't bother with alternate universes, which is probably a good thing.

    I expect Sun and Moon to get new clothes, with a manga-exclusive called Ultra added to the mix.

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    I winder if Kris could appear to study Alola formes of kanto and maybe johto pokemon if that happens. Maybe Lance or yellow.

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    It's get rebilled as "Ultra SM" with new cloths for Sun&Moon and he'll intermix both universes, hopefully there is no arc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kein View Post
    Kusaka doesn't bother with alternate universes, which is probably a good thing.

    I expect Sun and Moon to get new clothes, with a manga-exclusive called Ultra added to the mix.
    I don't think there's anything a new protagonist can do that Sun and Moon can't already do. The clothes change should be enough.

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    Sun's debatable at this point, but I really think the girl could easily pass for a whole new protagonist, so it's likely Kusaka could decompose them into an Ulsun and Ulmoon. Or better yet, he could expand on the concept of Fallers and make Ulsun and Ulmoon Fallers that ended up in the main Adventures canon and call themselves Ulsun and Ulmoon as aliases so there's no confusion in the event they do meet the main canon's Sun and Moon.
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    From Yamamoto on the Coro Coro Pokespe site:

    “On June 23rd, the first volume of PokeSP Sun Moon has finally released! Read it till the end. "Just what happened to Sun?!”

    For those who can’t wait. CoroCoro Ichiban is on sale! It continues off in the August issue, so please do buy it and read it! For those worried about the release announcement of Pokemon "Ultra Sun Moon" in November and saying "What will happen to PokeSP?!“ Please enjoy Sun Moon arc first. “

    USM might be its own arc? ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryousha View Post
    From Yamamoto on the Coro Coro Pokespe site:

    “On June 23rd, the first volume of PokeSP Sun Moon has finally released! Read it till the end. "Just what happened to Sun?!”

    For those who can’t wait. CoroCoro Ichiban is on sale! It continues off in the August issue, so please do buy it and read it! For those worried about the release announcement of Pokemon "Ultra Sun Moon" in November and saying "What will happen to PokeSP?!“ Please enjoy Sun Moon arc first. “

    USM might be its own arc? ?
    I feel like USM will just later be integrated into SM later on. Kusaka and Yamamoto have got to learn from their mistake with BW2 already and planned accordingly.

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