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    Post which characters you found the most irritating/boring/unrealistic/etc. State your reasoning behind your opinion, such as "I didn't like _______'s voice actor, he/she was very _______".

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    I'll start the thread with my most disliked character:

    Call me unoriginal, but my all time most disliked character was Tracey Sketchit. He had the curse of having one of the most annoying, overly earnest sounding voice actors out of the entire cast. He was also annoying useless whenever Team Rocket attacked.

    Aside from his personality flaws, there was also the insult added to injury, when Brock was (at the time) prematurely (in my opinion :P) removed from the show and replaced with an anti-humor character like Tracey. At that point, Brock had only been on the show for one season, and was still relatively original and amusing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GetOutOfBox View Post
    I'll start the thread with my most disliked character:

    Call me unoriginal, but my all time most disliked character was Tracey Sketchit. He had the curse of having one of the most annoying, overly earnest sounding voice actors out of the entire cast. He was also annoying useless whenever Team Rocket attacked.

    Aside from his personality flaws, there was also the insult added to injury, when Brock was (at the time) prematurely (in my opinion :P) removed from the show and replaced with an anti-humor character like Tracey. At that point, Brock had only been on the show for one season, and was still relatively original and amusing.
    I don't think Tracey was disliked, I think he was just too ignored. He never really did anything or showed more personality. Plus I also heard rumors that people thought there needed to be a darker person on there for all audiences. But like I said, it's just a rumor I heard. I think that's why they was able to replace Brock because in BW they made a few more darker characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caseydia View Post
    I don't think Tracey was disliked, I think he was just too ignored. He never really did anything or showed more personality. Plus I also heard rumors that people thought there needed to be a darker person on there for all audiences. But like I said, it's just a rumor I heard. I think that's why they was able to replace Brock because in BW they made a few more darker characters.
    What exactly do you mean by "I don't think Tracey was disliked."? I dislike him, that's indisputable :P. Did you mean he wasn't as bad as I described?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GetOutOfBox View Post
    What exactly do you mean by "I don't think Tracey was disliked."? I dislike him, that's indisputable :P. Did you mean he wasn't as bad as I described?
    No, I never disliked Tracey. Brock was the problem for me. Screw the eyes.

    Misty and Iris have almost similar characteristics so I have to say that I don't like them quite as everyone else. Why do they make gymleaders or gymleader wannabes jerks?

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    Paul. I can't stand him. He's a completely dislikeable jerkwad who acts ridiculously robotic for age 10 or 11, with no reason to be so (if he had an interesting reason behind his behavior, I'd have liked him, but nope, it's a lame-as-hell issue with his brother; if that's seriously what causes him to act like he does, then he's a freaking sociopath, plain and simple). I hate how he always wins and gets away with his crap, how his jerkassery is viewed in-show as "merely different, but still effective, training methods", that his and Ash's rivalry is based on this and plays out the same way over and over again, and (worst of all) I hate how his fanbase overrates him.

    And really, he's just plain not fun or interesting as a character. He's a tool and nothing more.
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    Out of the entire series; Jesse, James, and Meowth have and will remain my most disliked characters in the anime. I feel that after Johto, they had become one annoying running gag at worst and target practice at best. I just didn't see them having a point when Hoenn came around and we started getting new villian teams from the games. It made more sense for me for Team Rocket to be a threat when they were the main villian group in Pokemon Red,Blue,Yellow,Gold,Silver,and Crystal. In Hoenn? Not at all, so they became artifacts the second they showed up in AGEP01 of the anime. I never found them funny, and really I feel they overstayed their welcome. Even in Black and White, where they became more serious, they should'nt be there, just Team Plasma.
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    My most disliked character was Piplup, my reasons behind this was he was selfish, annoying, arrogant, egotistical, "trying to be cool but being totally unfunny when falling somewhere" little pipsqueak ^^ also he hurt my ears terribly in the English dub


    Even so I can't say I hated him with a burning passion, I had fun mocking him and seeing him get hit by Gible's Draco Meteor EVERYTIME
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    Quote Originally Posted by 00poke_maniac View Post
    My most disliked character was Piplup, my reasons behind this was he was selfish, annoying, arrogant, egotistical, "trying to be cool but being totally unfunny when falling somewhere" little pipsqueak ^^ also he hurt my ears terribly in the English dub


    Even so I can't say I hated him with a burning passion, I had fun mocking him and seeing him get hit by Gible's Draco Meteor EVERYTIME
    Amen to this lol. Also Ursula, god the writers can't be original at all, Harley copy much?? And a bad one at that, why the writers did the writers think that would work twice?? You can't do any better then Harley. They could of easily made just a *****y rival but no they had to make one that tried to sabotage her but got her butt pwned everytime.
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    Tracey was okay, but he was really just there because they thought Brock was going to come under fire for being a racist stereotype. Fortunately, nothing like that ever happened with reception of the character and people actually wanted him back instead, so there ya go.
    As for my least favorite character? Has'ta be Dawn. I WANTED to like her so much, because in the games Dawn is my second most favorite MC (my all-time favorite is tied between May and Leaf) and Platina is my favorite female protagonist of Pokemon Adventures (while Gold takes the cake for male and overall), but she displayed no personality traits (other than being a Stepford wife) and really just served to market to lolicons and girls who might have a passing interest interest in Pokemon.
    It's not very hard to give a character a great personality and make them likable, but Dawn wasn't given the same treatment as Misty or May and thus came out as a very spoiled, self-centred character who always needed help from others and cried like an angry baby when she lost.
    But, after all that, I don't hate her. She's already done as a character so there's really no point in using such a strong emotion for her, but that doesn't mean that I'm not disappointed with her. The writers could've done something interesting, but all they did was make her into a carbon copy of May with apparent similarities to Ash, and as a result it's all rather sad.


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    My most disliked characters are piplup and dawn
    I wonder a bout piplup's nature.he was so annoying
    I couldnt connect with dawn either.she doesnt have a strong personality.
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    My least favorite character is Barry because he is annoying and he's always like "I'M FINING YOU!!!" And he's not good at battling either. Especially against Paul in the Lily of the Valley Conference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stanleysmith View Post
    My least favorite character is Barry because he is annoying and he's always like "I'M FINING YOU!!!" And he's not good at battling either. Especially against Paul in the Lily of the Valley Conference.
    Though to be fair, it was Paul he battled. The guy who curbstomped Ash in their full battle. Paul was using arguably three of his most powerful pokemon against Barry and had a type advantage for most of the battle. Overall, Barry lost to Paul because the plot needed Ash to battle Paul and it would build up Paul as a bigger threat to Ash.

    Anyway...I dislike Dawn the most, I do not "hate" Dawn. I just do not like her as much as the other main characters.
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    1) I do not understand how Dawn can get to the finals on her first GF yet it took May two times just to get to the top four. Heck, to compare her to someone else, Ash has NEVER made it to the finals in any of the leagues he competed in (Orange Islands do not count) so IMO, it seemed sort of odd for Dawn to do so on her first try. Though to be fair, she did face Ursula and Jessie of all people so if she battled any of the other two rivals (Nando or Zoey) at any given point, she would have lost in the top four or lower.

    2) Met a legendary before you start your journey, check. Be the only main character other then Ash to have an electric type, check. Have a pokemon that is always out of it's pokeball, check. Having said pokemon refusing to evolve, check....Yeah, you get my point when I compare Dawn to Ash since those things just made me find her more annoying since it seemed she was basically a female Ash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunanight View Post
    Though to be fair, it was Paul he battled. The guy who curbstomped Ash in their full battle. Paul was using arguably three of his most powerful pokemon against Barry and had a type advantage for most of the battle. Overall, Barry lost to Paul because the plot needed Ash to battle Paul and it would build up Paul as a bigger threat to Ash.

    Anyway...I dislike Dawn the most, I do not "hate" Dawn. I just do not like her as much as the other main characters.
    My reasons:

    1) I do not understand how Dawn can get to the finals on her first GF yet it took May two times just to get to the top four. Heck, to compare her to someone else, Ash has NEVER made it to the finals in any of the leagues he competed in (Orange Islands do not count) so IMO, it seemed sort of odd for Dawn to do so on her first try. Though to be fair, she did face Ursula and Jessie of all people so if she battled any of the other two rivals (Nando or Zoey) at any given point, she would have lost in the top four or lower.

    2) Met a legendary before you start your journey, check. Be the only main character other then Ash to have an electric type, check. Have a pokemon that is always out of it's pokeball, check. Having said pokemon refusing to evolve, check....Yeah, you get my point when I compare Dawn to Ash since those things just made me find her more annoying since it seemed she was basically a female Ash.
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    My least favorite character is Iris because I find her to be very annoying and the constant phrase that she says to Ash "You're such a kid" really annoys me. I also find her to be a very boring character.
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    I tend to hate most of the one-shot characters because they're really similar and boring (the ones that have a backstory/a sizable role in the story at least, it's obviously not a problem if they're really minor characters), but out of the main cast it has to be Trip/Shooti. I get that he's meant to be all focused and intimidating, but to me he comes off as dull. The whole "I'm so much more advanced than you Ash" thing stops being interesting after they've battled a few times, and it's been done before in really similar ways with Gary and Paul, which is why I think it's better when Ash has rivals like Stephan or Morrison, who are competitive but lack the "look at how much better than you I am" attitude.

    Other than him, the only other characters I really disliked were Paul and Tracey. Paul for pretty much the same reasons as Trip, Tracey for having a really irritating voice actor and being a pretty uninteresting character in general, and I guess for coming in and replacing Brock at a point where I'd already began to lose interest in Pokemon.

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    Ash Ketchum himself. I don't hate him and I probably never will but I really don't like him anymore. Since DP started into Best Wishes I find myself liking him less and less as time goes on. Just repeats the same thing over and over again. Half the stuff he learns he already learned in a previous saga. His childish attitude after all these years has gotten stale and not even reverting back to his Kanto stage in BW has helped me to like him again. I guess I don't mind him not winning a league to much even though I think he's long overdue, but in my opinion that really holds the secondary character back. I think the writers chickened out at the Sinnoh GF because they knew Ash wasn't going to win the league so they made his sidekick lose just to be fair, not that I had a problem with that, but seriously why make it to the finals just to lose and never be seen again? Ash's Pokemon are all nice but they just get personalities of his past Pokemon. I mean Treecko, Buizel, and Snivy all have the same feel to them. Oshawott is just a much better handled Piplup that's not so in your face, And I won't mention regional birds. I also really dislike the idea that Ash is the only special person in the world. Nobody else can see legendary Pokemon or save a legendary Pokemon but him (Movie 9) so there we are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Platinum fan. View Post
    Ash Ketchum himself. I don't hate him and I probably never will but I really don't like him anymore. Since DP started into Best Wishes I find myself liking him less and less as time goes on. Just repeats the same thing over and over again. Half the stuff he learns he already learned in a previous saga. His childish attitude after all these years has gotten stale and not even reverting back to his Kanto stage in BW has helped me to like him again. I guess I don't mind him not winning a league to much even though I think he's long overdue, but in my opinion that really holds the secondary character back. I think the writers chickened out at the Sinnoh GF because they knew Ash wasn't going to win the league so they made his sidekick lose just to be fair, not that I had a problem with that, but seriously why make it to the finals just to lose and never be seen again? Ash's Pokemon are all nice but they just get personalities of his past Pokemon. I mean Treecko, Buizel, and Snivy all have the same feel to them. Oshawott is just a much better handled Piplup that's not so in your face, And I won't mention regional birds. I also really dislike the idea that Ash is the only special person in the world. Nobody else can see legendary Pokemon or save a legendary Pokemon but him (Movie 9) so there we are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Platinum fan. View Post
    Ash Ketchum himself. I don't hate him and I probably never will but I really don't like him anymore. Since DP started into Best Wishes I find myself liking him less and less as time goes on. Just repeats the same thing over and over again. Half the stuff he learns he already learned in a previous saga. His childish attitude after all these years has gotten stale and not even reverting back to his Kanto stage in BW has helped me to like him again. I guess I don't mind him not winning a league to much even though I think he's long overdue, but in my opinion that really holds the secondary character back. I think the writers chickened out at the Sinnoh GF because they knew Ash wasn't going to win the league so they made his sidekick lose just to be fair, not that I had a problem with that, but seriously why make it to the finals just to lose and never be seen again? Ash's Pokemon are all nice but they just get personalities of his past Pokemon. I mean Treecko, Buizel, and Snivy all have the same feel to them. Oshawott is just a much better handled Piplup that's not so in your face, And I won't mention regional birds. I also really dislike the idea that Ash is the only special person in the world. Nobody else can see legendary Pokemon or save a legendary Pokemon but him (Movie 9) so there we are.
    Well said
    U see, it is writer Idea of bring the golden age of pokemon back
    They think making Ash like a Rocky again gonna make people feel the same fun they felt when the 1st time pokemon begin
    It's a Ridduculas Idea
    I mean Ash acting like a Rockey again & getting his butt kick by a newbe like Trip make me stop watching this Anime
    I wanna see Ash acting like a mature trainer like Paul, Drew & Zoey
    I also wanna see Ash playing a role of a Mentor & Guardian angel to a Rocky trainer like how Drew/Zoey does
    And I wanna see Ash treated as a Formidable 5 year experience battle frontier champ & 1st Orange victor (against Drake) trainer
    U know , U should say all those thing right in the writer face !
    So he can realise we doesn't want go backward
    We are triad of seeing Ash going Backward in the begining of every single series & we now simply wanna see Ash moving forward
    Anyway ,My most hated character is pokemon hunter j , Drew & Trip

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    Quote Originally Posted by vodor View Post
    Well said
    U see, it is writer Idea of bring the golden age of pokemon back
    They think making Ash like a Rocky again gonna make people feel the same fun they felt when the 1st time pokemon begin
    It's a Ridduculas Idea
    I mean Ash acting like a Rockey again & getting his butt kick by a newbe like Trip make me stop watching this Anime
    I wanna see Ash acting like a mature trainer like Paul, Drew & Zoey
    I also wanna see Ash playing a role of a Mentor & Guardian angel to a Rocky trainer like how Drew/Zoey does
    And I wanna see Ash treated as a Formidable 5 year experience battle frontier champ & 1st Orange victor (against Drake) trainer
    U know , U should say all those thing right in the writer face !
    So he can realise we doesn't want go backward
    We are triad of seeing Ash going Backward in the begining of every single series & we now simply wanna see Ash moving forward
    Anyway ,My most hated character is pokemon hunter j , Drew & Trip
    I have no idea what you just said. What do you mean by "they think making Ash like a Rockey"? And why did you spam bold tags :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by GetOutOfBox View Post
    I have no idea what you just said. What do you mean by "they think making Ash like a Rockey"? And why did you spam bold tags :P
    That's what I would like to know.
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    It's weird how peoples opinions on Ash vary so much.

    Whilst I hate seeing him get his *** handed to him, and all the things he learns go to waste a lot, he always will be the best character, the best trainer, the best whatever you can think of, the shows about his journey travelling to become the champion.

    If the series ended and brought in a new main character, I wouldn't watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Platinum fan. View Post
    Ash Ketchum himself. I don't hate him and I probably never will but I really don't like him anymore. Since DP started into Best Wishes I find myself liking him less and less as time goes on. Just repeats the same thing over and over again. Half the stuff he learns he already learned in a previous saga. His childish attitude after all these years has gotten stale and not even reverting back to his Kanto stage in BW has helped me to like him again. I guess I don't mind him not winning a league to much even though I think he's long overdue, but in my opinion that really holds the secondary character back. I think the writers chickened out at the Sinnoh GF because they knew Ash wasn't going to win the league so they made his sidekick lose just to be fair, not that I had a problem with that, but seriously why make it to the finals just to lose and never be seen again? Ash's Pokemon are all nice but they just get personalities of his past Pokemon. I mean Treecko, Buizel, and Snivy all have the same feel to them. Oshawott is just a much better handled Piplup that's not so in your face, And I won't mention regional birds. I also really dislike the idea that Ash is the only special person in the world. Nobody else can see legendary Pokemon or save a legendary Pokemon but him (Movie 9) so there we are.
    Yep, I feel the same way. I like Ash's base character, but it gets depressing that everything he experiences and learns is totally forgotten within a few episodes, and how he's completely reset at the end of the season. I mostly watch the Pokemon anime because of nostalgia, otherwise it's pretty much rubbish in terms of writing quality. The writers are just so extremely lazy when it comes to plot arcs and character development, it's pathetic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Haunter227 View Post
    It's weird how peoples opinions on Ash vary so much.

    Whilst I hate seeing him get his *** handed to him, and all the things he learns go to waste a lot, he always will be the best character, the best trainer, the best whatever you can think of, the shows about his journey travelling to become the champion.

    If the series ended and brought in a new main character, I wouldn't watch.
    How is Ash the best trainer? You just said he gets his *** handed to him, doesn't that kind conflict with what you just said?

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    I always said this, but I'll say it again:

    I dislike Ash in BW. I mean, he travelled 4 regions and an Island, won constest, has been training for 15 years, beaten harsh opponents (Gary, Gym leaders...)

    He is supposed to be like one of the most powerfull trainers of the series by now. But what? In BW, he is still 10 years old (I wished he could be at least 14) but the worst part, is that he isn't as bright and mature then AG/DP (even Kanto Ash was more interesting) and he has been beaten by a starter trainer!(who moreover, is ugly and lacks charisma) How could he?!

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