SurfMasta's Shack of Events and Shinies

[Japan]

Posted by Hozu

You cannot RNG on a retail disc for any GC game as the game's initial seed uses the GC/Wii internal clock, which is accurate to nanoseconds (1 billionth of a second). And of course the RNG abuse has literally just been discovered, and only able to be done on an emulator, and the key tool isn't going to be released publicly (damn hackers) so it would have to be done the hard way.

As for the shinyness it is still the standard 1/8192 rate for Colosseum but it will be unknown if it will be shiny or not until after the capture.

[SurfMasta]

Posted by Hozu

Exactly, thats why you capture the pokemon and then purify it to see if it is shiny or not. It is impossible to RNG them, and the only way you can tell they are shiny is by their little animation.

[Japan]

Exactly, thats why you capture the pokemon and then purify it to see if it is shiny or not. It is impossible to RNG them, and the only way you can tell they are shiny is by their little animation.

Still need more proof though....

[Kaphotics]

To start off, Japan did message me over at Smogon to inquire about shiny 10 ANIV Pokemon. In no way did Japan ask me to come here, I found my way here on my own from links over at Smogon.

OmegaDonut and I were the two researchers that cracked the XD/Colosseum, and I was the one who discovered how WISHMKR Jirachi was generated. Additionally, I have worked with Sabresite in developing Legal.exe, in which I participated with the research on Shiny MYSTRY Mews. We've come to the conclusion that (almost?) no GBA given event in Gen 3 has a shiny check. I also helped crack the RNG in gens 3/5, in addition to proving that Victini / Zek / Resh can never be encountered shiny no matter the location and the Masuda Method shiny rate is 1/1366 in B/W.

However, your "reference" posts are 3+ years old. We have more tools now. We know more.

Now on to the Shiny Colosseum Pokemon. You said you got them yourself with hard work. Yet, you say this:

Exactly, thats why you capture the pokemon and then purify it to see if it is shiny or not. It is impossible to RNG them, and the only way you can tell they are shiny is by their little animation.

This is not true. Once you catch them, you will be able to see if it is shiny or not. You don't have to purify it. What you said is incriminating against you -- it appears as if you never have gotten a Shiny Pokemon in Colosseum, and that what you have in this thread is hacked.

I suggest you use Pokecheck.org to upload a few (3+ with the same TID/SID, so that you can prove you didn't change the TID/SID on all of them just to make them shiny) of your shiny Colosseum Pokemon. You can then download the PKM file and then PM it to me, and I will most likely prove that they are hacked. This is because I have a PID/IV calculator for XD/Colosseum Pokemon, and I can check the legitimacy of them. No, I will not share this checker with the public, nor will I share your PKMs with anyone.

Same deal goes with your shiny events. Yes, PID generators are out there for 'em, but Pokecheck can check the PID to see if it is legal.

Proving whether your pokemon CAN be legit does not prove that they ARE legit.

Have a good weekend.

[Japan]

To start off, Japan did message me over at Smogon to inquire about shiny 10 ANIV Pokemon. In no way did Japan ask me to come here, I found my way here on my own from links over at Smogon.

OmegaDonut and I were the two researchers that cracked the XD/Colosseum, and I was the one who discovered how WISHMKR Jirachi was generated. Additionally, I have worked with Sabresite in developing Legal.exe, in which I participated with the research on Shiny MYSTRY Mews. We've come to the conclusion that (almost?) no GBA given event in Gen 3 has a shiny check. I also helped crack the RNG in gens 3/5, in addition to proving that Victini / Zek / Resh can never be encountered shiny no matter the location and the Masuda Method shiny rate is 1/1366 in B/W.

However, your "reference" posts are 3+ years old. We have more tools now. We know more.

Now on to the Shiny Colosseum Pokemon. You said you got them yourself with hard work. Yet, you say this:

This is not true. Once you catch them, you will be able to see if it is shiny or not. You don't have to purify it. What you said is incriminating against you -- it appears as if you never have gotten a Shiny Pokemon in Colosseum, and that what you have in this thread is hacked.

I suggest you use Pokecheck.org to upload a few (3+ with the same TID/SID, so that you can prove you didn't change the TID/SID on all of them just to make them shiny) of your shiny Colosseum Pokemon. You can then download the PKM file and then PM it to me, and I will most likely prove that they are hacked. This is because I have a PID/IV calculator for XD/Colosseum Pokemon, and I can check the legitimacy of them. No, I will not share this checker with the public, nor will I share your PKMs with anyone.

Same deal goes with your shiny events. Yes, PID generators are out there for 'em, but Pokecheck can check the PID to see if it is legal.

Proving whether your pokemon CAN be legit does not prove that they ARE legit.

Have a good weekend.

Wow thanks Kaphotics...see Surf? See I mean about these shiny
events? Well anyway Good Luck with your thread!

[Ex_Hollowman]

Your Pokemon look like they're hacked because they are hosted on a site. You sure they are not hacked? They look almost exactly identical.

[ShadowKyogre443]

Still need more proof though....

In Colosseum there is a glitch where the shiny appears even if it is shadow, as shown here
However, in XD the glitch is gone and the Pokemon must be fully purified before it's shiny qualities are visible.

Daisuke Blissey
Daisuke Garchomp
Daisuke Heracross
Daisuke Cherubi
Daisuke Gible
Daisuke Milotic
I need these, I can offer most of what's in my thread. I have the wish events you wanted, too

[Kaphotics]

In Colosseum there is a glitch where the shiny appears even if it is shadow, as shown here.

Incorrect. Read Bulbapedia --

In Pokémon Coloseum, like in the main series games, Pokémon have a 1/8192 chance of being Shiny. Likewise, there is a 1/8192 chance of a Shadow Pokémon being Shiny; however, when a Shiny Shadow Pokémon is captured, it is highly improbable that the Pokemon will retain Shininess. Conversely, when an ordinary Shadow Pokémon is captured, there is still the 1/8192 chance of that Pokémon becoming Shiny when it is sent to the player's party or the Pokémon storage system. Shininess is retained through purification. In Pokémon Colosseum, the color of a Shiny Pokémon can differ drastically from the handheld games.

In Pokémon XD, the game ensures that all Pokémon are not Shiny by recalculating the Pokémon personality value if it would result in a Shiny Pokémon. As in Pokémon Colosseum, the color of a Shiny Pokémon can differ drastically from the handheld games.

If you go to the main page of the glitch...

This glitch is caused by the game not considering the player's ID numbers until it is captured. The game instead uses the Opponent's ID number to determine if the Shadow Pokémon will be Shiny based on the personality value it generates at the start of the battle. Upon capture, the ID numbers of the capturing Trainer will then be applied and Shininess will be determined from the previously generated personality value.
However, in Pokémon XD, this glitch was corrected. When the game calculates a personality value, it checks against the player's ID numbers and the opponent's ID numbers. If the game were to generate a Shiny personality value, it would then recalculate the personality value until it would not be Shiny with both the player and the opponent's ID numbers. As a consequence of fixing this glitch from Pokémon Colosseum in Pokémon XD, the game ensures that all Shadow Pokémon are never Shiny.

You will NEVER be able to catch a shiny Shadow Pokemon in XD, and if you ever catch a visibly shiny Pokemon in Colosseum, it 99% won't be shiny.

However, in XD the glitch is gone and the Pokemon must be fully purified before it's shiny qualities are visible.

Incorrect again. Don't believe me? I made my Shadow Pokemon shiny, in addition to my Vaporeon. Their faceplates AND sprites show up shiny.
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[ShadowKyogre443]

Incorrect. Read Bulbapedia --

Goldursaring's research say's otherwise: "You can [catch a shiny] but the odds are against you, as there are less Pokemon that can be Shiny than normal and the structure of the game makes the odds approximately 1/16000."

Incorrect again. Don't believe me? I made my Shadow Pokemon shiny, in addition to my Vaporeon. Their faceplates AND sprites show up shiny.
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And how did you make your Pokemon shiny?!

[Japan]

Goldursaring's research say's otherwise: "You can [catch a shiny] but the odds are against you, as there are less Pokemon that can be Shiny than normal and the structure of the game makes the odds approximately 1/16000."

And how did you make your Pokemon shiny?!

Lol your really pissing Kaphotics off..he just discovered RNGing in XD and about the post in the Trading Blacklist...did he/she even had snapshots?

Kaphotics is a Pokemon Researcher so...he researches about RNGing, etc,etc...

[ShadowKyogre443]

Lol your really pissing Kaphotics off..he just discovered RNGing in XD and about the post in the Trading Blacklist...did he/she even had snapshots?

Kaphotics is a Pokemon Researcher so...he researches about RNGing, etc,etc...

Actually we are having an intellectual argument, one that isn't counter-productive like the one you have been having with me for a while. See, I don't mind a little debate with him because I know he actually has a brain. Btw, goldursaring is a Pokemon Researcher too, so he too "researches about RNGing, etc,etc..." -_-
For the past few days you have been sucking up to Kaphotics, and it's got to stop.

[ShaoWeh]

LOL I love reading troller arguments

[Japan]

Actually we are having an intellectual argument, one that isn't counter-productive like the one you have been having with me for a while. See, I don't mind a little debate with him because I know he actually has a brain. Btw, goldursaring is a Pokemon Researcher too, so he too "researches about RNGing, etc,etc..." -_-
For the past few days you have been sucking up to Kaphotics, and it's got to stop.

So you did not know about XD RNG? Okay nevermind then.and yes I know goldursaring he is the ones that helped me too okay? So it is not only Kaphotics but other people you know?

[Kaphotics]

except GU hasn't done any "pokemon researching" asides from his phenomenon rumor starting. Everything he's said about XD was wrong, including "sufficiently random PID/IVs". GU didn't actually do "RNG Research", he did nothing beyond the surface of the game.

I changed memory locations with my debugger.

[ShadowKyogre443]

except GU hasn't done any "pokemon researching" asides from his phenomenon rumor starting. Everything he's said about XD was wrong, including "sufficiently random PID/IVs". GU didn't actually do "RNG Research", he did nothing beyond the surface of the game.

I changed memory locations with my debugger.

Ah so he was just looking at the visuals of what was occurring in the game, right? (We should probably take our discussion to VM's to conserve SurfMasta's shop space)

[~Spaceman~]

Could I offer my lvl 100 deoxys for your XD Lugia

[Elitaylor]

I am interesed in your mew or deyoxis, I am open for negotiation I have a high level reshiram, dialga, or victory guarden victini, also, wha does flawless mean?

[dewey911p]

hey surf i noticed that you were takeing pre-orders for the event mewtwo that comes out tomorrow. would you be willing to trade me one for my:

Shiny 10ANIV Ho-oh (Calm lvl 70 UT IVs 18/0/22/13/14/2)

[Kevin24]

Hi just letting you know my computer is back from the shop so whenever you get it and message me i will be able to respond quickly.

[Peters]

Gamestp Deoxys,or anyother deoxys, i have lv50 Haxorus, Lv100 Lucray, Zoruas Of different natures, Tons of legends