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    Quote Originally Posted by mycooly View Post
    Well good news everyone!
    while this round was going on
    Excadrill: 49 Ban, 22 Do Not Ban, 3 Abstain = 69.01% Ban
    HE OFF OF OU AND INTO UBERS
    as well as thundurus
    maybe OU will get better
    MEH just when I started using him :/ where it is said smogon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mycooly View Post
    Well good news everyone!
    while this round was going on
    Excadrill: 49 Ban, 22 Do Not Ban, 3 Abstain = 69.01% Ban
    HE OFF OF OU AND INTO UBERS
    as well as thundurus
    maybe OU will get better
    Whooo I'm actually glad cause Excadrill caused me so many losses on my record o__o

    But I love Thundurus though...

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    god dammit there goes my lead....... and exadrill has so many counters its not funny. Not once has an exadrill been the cause of my opponent's win. smogon, you really f*cked up this time.
    Yep we should ban baton pass, and weather too. Oh and Trick Room, I'm tired of having to worry about Trick Room all the time. Just ban the move Trick Room, and prankster, it's broken. Ban all status moves on prankster users, they're too cheap. Oh and ban Probopass to it's so cheap. Just ban everything except Magikarp with splash.
    Well, actually Blaziken isn't really Uber because some people whined about how they were getting owned by it. I mean, it doesn't stand a chance in the Uber enviroment.

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    there goes the end of exca in ou
    I claim Larvitar!


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    If he's going to be banned now, meh. It was always countered by Gliscor and Skarmory, and I always see both or one of them in a team.


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    Darn, people are going to actually strategize when they make teams now instead of just shoving pokemon together.

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    To those who disagree with the vote.

    1) You could have voted
    2) If you did vote, well you were out voted.

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    Well, Excadrill is also good in Ubers, though he is better as a tank with this moveset:

    Excadrill @ Leftovers
    Trait: Sand Rush
    EVs: 176 HP / 60 Atk / 252 SpD / 20 Spe
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    I imagine that now that Ubers has claimed Excadrill, sandstorm teams are going to pop up. Tyranitar, Excadrill, and Garchomp will surely be in every one. Then there's Ferrothorn, which does really well in sand and is currently 7th in Ubers usage. Other good partners include Arceus, for the priority, and perhaps Manaphy, Blaziken, Genesect, and Keldio, to protect these teams against Ice moves. What do you guys think about the fate of sandstorm in Ubers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonsead View Post
    Don't care, I don't play with smogon rules.

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    In ubers SS will probably become a bit more common but tbh I think Rain and Sun will dominate for the sheer fact that you have things like Ho-oh, Reshiram, Zekrom, and others that just abuse those weathers so well. Not to mention Kyogre and Groudon are monsters that will really give sandstorm a tough time.
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    I've used it a bit in ubers, mostly because I had it on a team I used for a clan event (ubers vs. normals). Never really saw any sand teams. It can kinda check Darkrai with X-Scissor if SLeep Clause has already kicked in.

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    I am glad he is in Uber, I hate him so much XD

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    well now that hes in ubers sand MIGHT decrease a bit inmusage, but sincde before the ban i saw more team with ss not using exadrill, they might stay the same. I know for a fact that pokemon like lucario and darmanitan wil lprobably increase in usage for losing such a prominent threat to them. Lucario might rise into ou again from no more thunderus, but this is aobut exadrill.
    Yep we should ban baton pass, and weather too. Oh and Trick Room, I'm tired of having to worry about Trick Room all the time. Just ban the move Trick Room, and prankster, it's broken. Ban all status moves on prankster users, they're too cheap. Oh and ban Probopass to it's so cheap. Just ban everything except Magikarp with splash.
    Well, actually Blaziken isn't really Uber because some people whined about how they were getting owned by it. I mean, it doesn't stand a chance in the Uber enviroment.

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    Excadrill has been banned, long time coming around. He was broken imo, and he had no clear cut counter, Gliscor? Return Skarm? What can it do apart from phazing it. Bronzong? X-Scissor. Conkelldur? it dies to boosted EQ and mach punch does not KO unless it has had a prior boost. Even so called counters have trouble with it. I myself have had minor troubles with it but Excadrill overcentralized the metagame, but now its banned so OU should flourish more, stall teams can have a better time without a fast rapid spinner, HO teams have less pressure on them. And to you people who say he should not have been banned, refute my arguments. And what Blue Harvest said, if you are complaining you should have voted about it, if you could XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by irock245 View Post
    god dammit there goes my lead....... and exadrill has so many counters its not funny. Not once has an exadrill been the cause of my opponent's win. smogon, you really f*cked up this time.
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    I kinda like the ban so we FINALLY can build a team without concerning him for EVERY single pokemon we choose, the questions: does it resist excadrill? do my team can kill excadrill? are all gone but now prepare to a new OU pokemon stoutland (I started a topic a WEEK ago about him but it still did't show up IDK why).
    Yeah that's right excadrill's heir he can be countered by lot's of stuff but that is what make it good .

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucario44444444 View Post
    Theres

    Conkeldurr Check at best. +2 Excadrill can OHKO with Earthquake, and even CB Conkeldurr isn't guaranteed a OHKO with Mach Punch
    Skarmory Great. So Skarm does what back?
    Rotom-W Even the weakest kind, Jolly Balloon, is 2HKOing with the weakest attack, Rock Slide, against the standard common Rotom-W set. Then there's the stronger sets, as well as those that run Return, which has the potential to OHKO.
    CS Users lol
    GET RID OF SAND Easier said than done. I mean, CS Toed and Aboma do alright, just pray that you don't come in on an attack instead of SD
    Responses in bold. Oh, and let me add a few more common "checks" and "counters".

    Gliscor-It needs Protect just to survive the 2HKO from Return from more powerful sets. Oh, and those without a coverage move are set-up bait for Balloon Excadrill.
    Bronzong-2HKO'd by X-Scizzor, while also lacking decent recovery. Even worse, it's not getting close to a OHKO with Earthquake.
    Azumarill-Great. You checked Excadrill, not countered. And how does that fair against the rest of OU?
    Balloon Users-Keeping a Balloon intact is hardly reliable, not enough to warrant staying in OU.

    Each set can be countered, sure, but there's no one beat-all counter for this thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by irock245 View Post
    god dammit there goes my lead....... and exadrill has so many counters its not funny. Not once has an exadrill been the cause of my opponent's win. smogon, you really f*cked up this time.
    Then you've either carried a Gliscor or Skarmory or something on every team, or you've been playing terrible opponents, or both. Besides, I think what everyone is forgetting is what kind of damage this thing does to heavy offense. Yeah, there are counters to different sets, but how many of those I mentioned fit on a HO team? Just Air Balloon users. Yeah, really reliable. And don't forget what kind of mark this thing can make on a stall team as well with Rapid Spin and what not.

    Quote Originally Posted by kaiser soze View Post
    Darn, people are going to actually strategize when they make teams now instead of just shoving pokemon together.
    Why is there no "Like" button? I want to Like this.

    I also feel the need to mention that it's not like Excadrill is brand new to the Ubers environment. People have been using him for a while in Ubers. During the month of September, he hit #32 on the Ubers stats, at about 3.6% usage. That's enough usage for OU status, to put things into perspective. So just because it's banned now doesn't mean that it's Ubers usage is going to jump up or anything (unless it rises because some guys just can't help but use their buddy Excadrill).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farfan View Post
    If he's going to be banned now, meh. It was always countered by Gliscor and Skarmory, and I always see both or one of them in a team.




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    wasn't new world order the guy who was like, getting his arguments destroyed by joshe, theorymon, undisputed, and a couple other guys on #dreamworld earlier today?

    anyways I would make some helpful comment on why it's banned, but Smogon's really better for rational discussion than here since this will just turn into some dumb argument instead of a discussion. =[

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    lol, eevee knows his sh!t
    anyways
    yes exca gets destroyed by some stuff but for him is
    served or get served

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    I never cared about the mole whatsoever personally, and honestly the ban to ubers is interesting since it is now the third non-legendary/pseudo-legendary ever inducted into that arena. (along with Wobbuffet and Blaziken)

    I think it is broken, but not without it's faults, the biggest one being priority hitting. One Aqua Tail or Mach Punch and it's all over, basically, and fortunately a lot of hard-hitters have the capability of causing damage to Excadrill in that regard.

    Plus once the sandstorm is over, it is practically a sitting duck. that said, it becomes a duel of weather over a duel of pokemon when that happens...but since Hippowdon was bumped down a tier it causes some concern for sandstorm teams in general for automatic starts, since all that is left is Tyranitar...

    Yeah, I am glad he is not in play anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LinksOcarina View Post
    I never cared about the mole whatsoever personally, and honestly the ban to ubers is interesting since it is now the third non-legendary/pseudo-legendary ever inducted into that arena. (along with Wobbuffet and Blaziken)
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    Once I think about it, not once have I used Excadril. It was used far too much. I'm not one of those people who refuses to use OU pokemon, but I'm sick of seeing Excadril everywhere...I'm glad it was banned.

    Quote Originally Posted by irock245 View Post
    god dammit there goes my lead....... and exadrill has so many counters its not funny. Not once has an exadrill been the cause of my opponent's win. smogon, you really f*cked up this time.
    Lot's of counters, AKA pokemon with air balloon and rock resistance that will only come out with 25% of their health. Breloom and Conkeldurr with mach punch, both take a lot of damage from EQ. Gliscor will have to start with stone edge, facade, or ice fang because of air balloons. Bronzong, who can't do much damage in return, skarmory, who can only phaze it to save fighting it till later, and a for others who lose a lot of health. Ninetails is OHKOed by EQ and rock slide, while politoed will take a lot of damage to.
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    I don't really see the point of the ban either. Skarmory, Gliscor and Rotom-W, three of the most OU pokemon, can easily counter him, and you can simply remove the sand. It's not hard. Just take out the TTar and have a pokemon with rain dance/sunny day on your team.


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