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    I'm preparing a team of Pokemon to compete in the Spring VGC Regionals. This is what I have come up with so far. I think it's an okay VGC team, I've tested it on Pokemon Online, too! But I'm here to have you guys judge me and give me some nice ideas.



    Garchomp @ Life Orb
    Ability: Sand Veil
    EV's: 252 Atk/252 Spd/4 HP
    Adamant Nature
    - Dragon Claw
    - Earthquake
    - Rock Slide
    - Substitute

    Garchomp is a good attacker all around, especially in a Sandstorm. But what is special about Garchomp is that it doesn't need a Sandstorm to thrive like other Pokemon.



    Metagross @ Choice Scarf
    Ability: Clear Body
    EV's: 252 Atk/252 Spd/4 HP
    Adamant Nature
    - Meteor Mash
    - Rock Slide
    - Zen Headbutt
    - Trick

    Metagross is an odd, yet great addition to the team because of his defenses and offensives. It can 2HKO most Pokes with Meteor Mash which is not bad. Trick is always there to switch out the Scarf for something better as well as stop the opponent in their tracks if done the right way.



    Thundurus @ Electric Gem
    Ability: Prankster
    EV's: 128 HP/252 Sp Atk/128 Spd
    Modest Nature
    - Thunderbolt
    - Hidden Power (Ice)
    - Grass Knot
    - Thunder Wave

    Thundurus is great for slowing down other team members of the opponent. Thunderbolt + the Electric Gem pwns almost every Pokemon that isn't too high in special defense. Grass Knot is for Ground types and Rock Types that are difficult for a Thundurus to take down. Of course, Hidden Power Ice is for Dragon types, Thundurus, and Landorus.



    Tyranitar @ Chople Berry
    Ability: Sand Stream
    EV's: 252 Atk/124 Spd/124 Def/4 HP
    Adamant Nature
    - Superpower
    - Protect
    - Crunch
    - Rock Slide

    Tyranitar is mainly for bringing up Sandstorm. Its moveset is just another Tyrantiar example and is really nothing out of the ordinary.



    Gastrodon @ Leftovers
    Ability: Storm Drain
    EV's: 252 Sp Atk/124 Spd/124 HP/8 Sp Def
    Modest Nature
    - Muddy Water
    - Earth Power
    - Icy Wind
    - Hidden Power (Electric)

    Gastrodon is to protect against rain teams. It is a dangerous Pokemon if used correctly. Hidden Power Electric is definitely good against Politoad and other Water Types. Icy Wind lowers the speed of other Pokemon and is very effective on Dragon Types.



    Exeggutor @ Sitrus Berry
    Ability: Harvest
    EV's: 124 HP/252 Sp Atk/124 Sp Def
    Calm Nature
    - Leaf Storm
    - Psyshock
    - Protect
    - Power Swap

    Exeggutor + Harvest is one of the best combos out there when it comes to lower tier Pokemon. Leaf Storm and Power Swap also lowers the other Pokemon's Sp. Atk. so I can have a bit of defense on my side. Psyshock OHKO's Hitmontops and most Fighting types in general. Protect is for if I am still below Sitrus Berry's recovery section of the HP bar so I can restore more HP easily.


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    In depth review later. First, why executor? It is only really good in the sun... :-/

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    Quote Originally Posted by joej m View Post
    In depth review later. First, why executor? It is only really good in the sun... :-/
    Why is that?


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    Well, it is only 50% with no sun for the berry to come back.
    Also, I think that HP flying would be nice on thundurus. And I think that you don't need icy wind for gastro because you already have spead control. Use a ice beam instead! Have you tried making some custom EVs for the Pokemon so they can live specific things? That can make the synergy a lot stronger sometimes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by joej m View Post
    Well, it is only 50% with no sun for the berry to come back.
    Also, I think that HP flying would be nice on thundurus. And I think that you don't need icy wind for gastro because you already have spead control. Use a ice beam instead! Have you tried making some custom EVs for the Pokemon so they can live specific things? That can make the synergy a lot stronger sometimes!
    I didn't know Harvest only had 50% without sun. Maybe I could change this into a sun team somehow...


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    Well then you would need to change a ton of the team because almost everything else works great on a sand team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joej m View Post
    Well then you would need to change a ton of the team because almost everything else works great on a sand team.
    Oh... then maybe not, lol. Any suggestions on what I could switch out Exeggutor for?


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    The EVs for half this team is well...awful. Thundurus lays in the 101 Speed Tier which is important allowing it to outspeed 100 Base Speed Pokemon like Salamence, etc so 4/252/252 Jolly. Exe is no good since like what, RBY/GSC days outside of sun? HP Electric will do a pretty measly amount to other waters coming from Gastro especially Politoed as it runs a SpD bulky variant or Scarf variant almost all the time. I'd put Toxic in that spot.

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    The EVs for half this team is well...awful.
    Sadly true.... I'm at school right now but you can check Smogon for some good spreads. They can be used, or they can be used as a basis for your own sets.

    I find myself recommending Reuniclus a lot for Sand teams and it can serve as a nice Exe replacement.

    Reuniclus @ Life Orb
    Trait: Magic Guard
    Bold Nature
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
    - Calm Mind
    - Recover
    - Psyshock
    - Focus Blast

    Magic Guard is what makes Reuniclus such a beast (although I am looking into a Regenerator set). Calm Mind boosts both Special stats, hence the lack of EVs there. The EVs are for bulk so you can get set up because come on, Reuniclus is MOLASSES. Recover keeps you in the game and Psyshock and Focus Blast enjoy free Life Orb boosts and let Reuniclus punch through most walls. You set up perfectly on Chansey, for example, who is easily OHKOed by a +6 Psyshock if the Chansey is stupid enough to let you get that far (which has happened to me, strangely). Focus Blast hits the physically-defensive and Psyshock wrecks the specially-defensive while also getting STAB and having reliable accuracy. It also takes no Sandstorm damage, Hazard damage, Status damage, Life Orb damage....
    "Whether Castform the Weather Pokemon can weather the weather is dependent on whether the weather that it's weathering is the proper weather for it to weather. Whether the opponent can weather the weather is also subject to whether the weather that it's weathering is the right weather to weather. Whether Castform can weather the opponent is once again dictated by the weather and whether that weather is the favorable weather for weathering. But most importantly, you should know whether there will be weather to weather rather than what weather they will be weathering and whether they can weather that weather."

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    Exe swap could be for cresselia
    Cresselia @ sitrus berry
    Sassy/calm
    252 hp 252 spdef 4 def
    -Psychic/psyshock
    -Ice beam/icy wind
    -Helping hand
    -Trick room/screens/swagger

    This is quite useful. Psychic Is staple here, but psyshock That pain which is hitmontop. ice beam is for landorus and chomp, but icy wind is devistating on non trick room teams, especially chomp. Helping hand lets allys destroy like there is no tomorrow, especially with earthquake. Since most of your team is slow, TR is useful, for outspeeding foes under TR (Then don't use Icy wind) Screens are useful for defence. Swagger can be useful, if a ally has a lum berry (garchomp or metagross).

    HP electric isn't necessery on gastrodon. suggest running a Special tank set like this:
    Gastrodon @ Leftovers
    Ability: Storm Drain
    EV's: 252 hp, 252 sp def, 4 sp att
    Calm/sassy Nature
    - Muddy Water
    - Earth Power
    - Icy Wind/ice beam
    - Recover

    This set allows you to tank foes. i have used a similar set against a few politoed, and it always wins. recover for a longer lasting pokemon. ice beam could be better, as a TR team may do better.

    Give thundurus taunt for stopping support pokemon.

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    on metagross, Ice Punch > Rock Slide. It hits so many more things for SE Damage.
    Definitely change your defense EVs. Right now, no offense, but they're a mess. Use http://honko.byethost8.com/manly_calc.html and http://www.smogon.com/bw/articles/vgc12speed_tiers to calc attacks / speed for certain threats. Also on gastro use the set that philzon posted.

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    I suggest running 244 HP 28 Def and 236 SpD on exagutter lets him tank a draco meteor dragon gem from a timid latios and a crunch from a max attack tyranitar

    Also for gastridon I suggest this set
    Gastrodon @ Leftovers/Rindo berry/Sitrus berry
    EVs: 252 HP 20 Def 100 SpA 136 SpD
    Quiet nature
    -Muddy Water
    -Earth Power
    -Ice Beam
    -Protect

    He can tank a close combat fighting gem from a hitmontop, a draco meteor dragon gem from timid latios, and HP (grass) From any non-stab pokemon.

    Also for thundurus I suggest running 252 Spd and 252 SpA and a timid nature btw I might suggest using zapdos over thundurus if you wanna hit harder because zapdos has a better movepool.

    Also run 252 HP 252 Atk for tyranitar
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