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    Politoed @ Leftovers
    Trait: Drizzle
    Bold Nature
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
    - Scald
    - Ice Beam
    - Encore
    - Toxic

    Ludicolo @ Life Orb
    Trait: Rain Dish
    Bold Nature
    EVs: 252 HP / 216 Def / 40 SpD
    - Substitute
    - Leech Seed
    - Toxic
    - Giga Drain

    Ferrothorn @ Sitrus Berry
    Trait: Iron Barbs
    Impish Nature (Relaxed if using Gyro Ball)
    EVs: 252 HP / 88 Def / 168 SpD (0 Spe IVs if using Gyro Ball)
    - Stealth Rock
    - Spikes
    - Power Whip / Gyro Ball
    - Leech Seed

    Dragonite @ Lum Berry
    Trait: Multiscale
    Mild Nature
    EVs: 76 Atk / 252 SpA / 180 Spe
    - Hurricane
    - Aqua Tail
    - Thunder
    - Extremespeed / Earthquake / Roost

    Rotom-W
    Thunder
    - Hydro Pump
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
    - Trick
    Item Attached: Focus Sash
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)

    Toxicroak
    Sucker Punch or X-Scissor (a must since he is 4x weak to Psychic)
    - Drain Punch
    - Earthquake
    - Swords Dance or Rain Dance
    Item: Black Sludge
    Evs: 252 Attack 252 Speed 4 HP
    Last edited by Smack_that_pokemon; 6th December 2012 at 10:54 PM.

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    Well, I don't have enough info here to give you a full rate but I can say that your EVs and items need a TON of work. I won't suggest replacing Pokes unless ABSOLUTELY necessary though. And seeing as I'm at school, I can't really go into detail on the descriptions but I can fix those when I get home if needed.

    First off, you should be leading Politoed if Rain is your primary focus. Second, use Toxic over Hypnosis. Hypnosis has atrocious accuracy. As far as the rest goes, I can't tell what you're trying to do with Politoed. Is it offensive or defensive? If it's offensive,

    Politoed @ Choice Scarf / Specs
    Trait: Drizzle
    Timid / Modest Nature
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    - Hydro Pump
    - Focus Blast
    - Ice Beam
    - Hidden Power Grass

    If it's defensive,

    Politoed @ Leftovers
    Trait: Drizzle
    Bold Nature
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
    - Scald
    - Ice Beam
    - Encore
    - Toxic

    When I play Rain, it's one of these Politoeds, usually a ScarfToed. But your team, your choices.


    Rotom-W: This is a standard Choice Rotom, use Scarf with it.


    Ludicolo in OU on a Drizzle team should use SubSeed, which I don't find terribly effective but again, your team, your choices. Whatever you do with it though, it needs a new EV spread. If you're going offensive (NEEDS Swift Swim to be effective and as such can't really be used here), go with 252/252. Otherwise, SubSeed Ludicolo:

    Ludicolo @ Leftovers
    Trait: Rain Dish
    Bold Nature
    EVs: 252 HP / 216 Def / 40 SpD
    - Substitute
    - Leech Seed
    - Toxic
    - Giga Drain

    It pretty much does the same thing as every SubSeeder ever, only with Rain Dish support. Drop a Sub and Leech Seed, Poison for extra damage and Giga Drain for recovery and so you aren't Taunt bait.


    Toxicroak: Pretty good, but Substitute and Focus Punch over Fake Out and Protect/Taunt. There are other viable options of course but SubPunch is what I'm most familiar with so it's what I'm suggesting here.


    Ferrothorn: Needs Leftovers. No questions asked. And the EVs... I'm just going to write the set below:

    Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
    Trait: Iron Barbs
    Impish Nature (Relaxed if using Gyro Ball)
    EVs: 252 HP / 88 Def / 168 SpD (0 Spe IVs if using Gyro Ball)
    - Stealth Rock
    - Spikes
    - Power Whip / Gyro Ball
    - Leech Seed

    Pretty standard Hazard setter here, drop Rocks, drop Spikes, Seed 'em and go from there. I prefer Power Whip for many reasons, better coverage, stable power, etc. Leftovers is essential for recovery.


    Dragonite: Again, needs a bit of work. First off, Haban Berry is bad for Dragonite. It doesn't need a Berry with Multiscale, except possibly a Lum Berry for Outrage. It has better options though, like Choice Band and Life Orb. I'd imagine this is offensive, and so here's a Mixed attacking set that retains the Rain abuse:

    Dragonite @ Life Orb
    Trait: Multiscale
    Mild Nature
    EVs: 76 Atk / 252 SpA / 180 Spe
    - Hurricane
    - Aqua Tail
    - Thunder
    - Extremespeed / Earthquake / Roost

    Hurricane is your main move, with Aqua Tail hammering a lot of what resists it and getting pseudo-STAB in the rain. Thunder wrecks Skarmory, Tornadus-T, and Tentacruel, among others. All 3 check Rain teams very well, so this is really nice. The last slot, all 3 have their merits which is why I've listed them all. Extremespeed revenge kills, Earthquake handles things like Jirachi and Roost heals off LO recoil and potentially resets Multiscale.
    "Whether Castform the Weather Pokemon can weather the weather is dependent on whether the weather that it's weathering is the proper weather for it to weather. Whether the opponent can weather the weather is also subject to whether the weather that it's weathering is the right weather to weather. Whether Castform can weather the opponent is once again dictated by the weather and whether that weather is the favorable weather for weathering. But most importantly, you should know whether there will be weather to weather rather than what weather they will be weathering and whether they can weather that weather."

    - Smogon's Castform analysis

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    you are awesome bro all of that actually made sense! whenever i talk with someone else i can't understand a thing thank you i will do all the changes you told me to do and i still didnt start my teami just want to make sure what i want to do and im sorry if this was messed up it was my first post thanks!

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    You should add descriptions to these so I can help rate this a lot better


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