General Chat Thread

[EternalSword7]

It does but those companies line the pockets of the major political big wigs, meaning little to nothing will ever happen. which is sad.

Because of those guys, this election boils down to choose your puppet.

[BJPalmer85]

Because of those guys, this election boils down to choose your puppet.

That pretty much sums it up and how it will continue to work until the country elects an Independent candidate.

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[Pesky Persian]

That pretty much sums it up and how it will continue to work until the country elects an Independent candidate.

B

So forever...

[BJPalmer85]

So forever...

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PS - tried to post a picture and failed, now i cant delete the attachment

[EternalSword7]

So forever...

Pretty much this. Unless some large group can actually pull off something big enough to change the system.

[Snorunt conservationist]

I hope any Americans casting their votes today stop and appreciate how privileged they are to be able to do so.

Even if you spoil your ballot, I do believe voting is a task that all should undertake.

[The Admiral]

Still a few hours until actual election day, even on the east coast, but early voting has been going on for a while -- but you raise a good point. Even if we are just choosing between X dinguses, at least we get something of a choice and a chance to voice our opinions.

[Erfinjerfin]

it's amazing how much more cynical this forum has gotten since i was last here

[Crimsonlink]

A major problem is the vicious cycle America's politics are in right now.

Democrat/Republican is elected, makes laws, 4 years later people don't like the laws and elect Democrat/Republican, repeals laws and adds new ones, then cycle continues.

This country is mostly filled with independents, with most people leaning Liberalism and Conservatism on certain issues. Its just that the Demo and Repub sides are more outspoken and acts to convert the independents to their sides.

Maybe in the future we will have a Libertarian party. I hope so otherwise it will be time to move for me personally.

[The Admiral]

I'm not really big on libertarianism on extreme levels where there's no safety nets, etc., but I can back the low-coercion-high-liberty model.

[HetaOni]

Herro~

*Sees you're all talking about the election"

Well,might as well leave before sh*t goes down.

[Erfinjerfin]

I suppose I'd consider myself being aligned with the libertarian left more than anything else. I'm all for extensive civil liberties, capitalism, and expanding free market, but I can't get behind abolishing gun control, taxes, and welfare.

[Cipher]

Hey.

If you're an American citizen over the age of 18 and you're not voting tomorrow, fuck you.

Tha's all.

[Autis-misc]

Because of those guys, this election boils down to choose your puppet.

I pick Mitt, since its a suitable name for a puppet.

[GrizzlyB]

It's a great read lmao: Troll Topic 1 - http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/68199...-xiii/64026350
Troll Topic 2 - http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/68199...-xiii/64509851 and still going.

It's Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai!. Pretty much the show of the season.

Ha. As if I have time to read a bunch of malformed opinions of people who like the FF13 series. Kudos to you, though, however easy it might've been. Also, I may or may not check that out at some point. I haven't decided yet.

Sounds fun. Can't wait to end up anywhere but there.

D:

B-But where else are you going to get moonshine and fireworks?

It always warms my heart to see yet another FFVI fan scuttling about on the interwebz.

Because it's so rare of an occurrence? Huh.

I don't really understand that second bit, but I am asking why you think California is disparaging Michigan/Colorado, because this is news to me.



About an hour or two away.

Because it's wearing sunglasses and giving a smarmy thumbs-up to a square state, that's why.

And now you've confused me, because unless you live up in the mountains, I'm not sure where you are that you haven't realized that we're run over with possibly-illegal Mexicans. Castle Rock?

I don't blame you. Jon Stewart is great.

Side note:


Interesting.

As long as you remember he's an entertainer on Comedy Central, and don't try to inform yourself based off of what he says, I guess.

Also, I doubt that the Mayans didn't account for leap years. As I recall, their calendar was entirely based off of the winter solstice, and not around any concept of "days" (which is what throws the calendar off in the first place: a "day" isn't actually 24 hours, so each year winds up with about a quarter of an extra day, and you toss that in every four years). So, each year of theirs would be the same amount of time regardless.

My ethics on the matter are questionable, but doesn't the pharmaceuticals industry deserve to be undermined? I consider medicine-for-profit on higher levels unethical, and medicine prices are going berserk. Unless they actually cost that much to produce (which is possible!) and profit per transaction is extremely small percentage-wise. Shouldn't helping people come first?

In addition to what ArmorAndonomon said, drugs are extremely time- and money-consuming to bring to the market, and very few drugs that they patent will be feasible to mass-produce, and of those, even fewer will be able to make it through the very stringent trials the FDA enforces (realize that they have to file a timed patent on a potential drug molecule before they even start anything else). Then, by the time they are put onto the market, their patent is usually pretty close to running out, so they charge high prices to get their money back and profit, before another company comes along and undercuts them with a generic -- for which they have done no R&D. Honestly, when you look at it like that, generics can seem almost unfair at times, imo.

Hey.

If you're an American citizen over the age of 18 and you're not voting tomorrow, **** you.

Tha's all.

Does this mean that you hate me for mailing in my ballot over a week ago? :[

[Exeggudork]

I pick Mitt, since its a suitable name for a puppet.

mittens.....

[The Admiral]

As long as you remember he's an entertainer on Comedy Central, and don't try to inform yourself based off of what he says, I guess.

Of course. I think he's funny, and he does drag out some interesting information, but you do have to separate that from his mere opinion.

Also, I doubt that the Mayans didn't account for leap years. As I recall, their calendar was entirely based off of the winter solstice, and not around any concept of "days" (which is what throws the calendar off in the first place: a "day" isn't actually 24 hours, so each year winds up with about a quarter of an extra day, and you toss that in every four years). So, each year of theirs would be the same amount of time regardless.

Fair enough.

In addition to what ArmorAndonomon said, drugs are extremely time- and money-consuming to bring to the market, and very few drugs that they patent will be feasible to mass-produce, and of those, even fewer will be able to make it through the very stringent trials the FDA enforces (realize that they have to file a timed patent on a potential drug molecule before they even start anything else). Then, by the time they are put onto the market, their patent is usually pretty close to running out, so they charge high prices to get their money back and profit, before another company comes along and undercuts them with a generic -- for which they have done no R&D. Honestly, when you look at it like that, generics can seem almost unfair at times, imo.

Fair. Probably still could stand some procedural refinement where possible.

[Amiちゃん]

I suppose I'd consider myself being aligned with the libertarian left more than anything else. I'm all for extensive civil liberties, capitalism, and expanding free market, but I can't get behind abolishing gun control, taxes, and welfare.

Most don't even want a government at all and I can't get behind that. I'm all for getting rid of the socialist drivel though. So I might be far to the right. I just won't register third party for primary reasons.

As for voting, I saw this on another forum and it pretty much summed up my beliefs on voting:

… I never believed, however, that voting was a duty. A man's duty is to his family, his wife and kids, his mother and father. A man's duty is to pay his bills and protect his loved ones from harm. It is living his life with respect for himself and others -- living proudly the few years God has granted each of us, grateful for whatever he has -- no matter what he has accomplished.
Voting is an honor
. It is a gift. It may not be a duty, or a responsibility to vote, but it certainly is an opportunity to be counted, to have one's say, to make one's feelings known -- to stand up against the liberal dream of silencing all dissent…

[The Admiral]

Though I agree with the basic idea...

"to stand up against the liberal dream of silencing all dissent…"

Those people? They aren't real liberals, as I see it and understand liberalism.

[KickAsh]

I'm all for getting rid of the socialist drivel though.

"Socialism"/"socialist" has become so meaningless.

[The Admiral]

Do people even know what socialism really is anymore?

[KickAsh]

Exactly. I really don't think they do. You always hear "Obama is a socialist! He wants to make everyone equal!", forgetting that's not and has never been what socialism is.

[ArmorAndonomon]

Does this mean that you hate me for mailing in my ballot over a week ago? :[

I had to mail mine in as well.
Aww yeeaaahhhh expired state IDs and no money to renew them.

Do people even know what socialism really is anymore?

That's the thing where they force you to be social, right?

[The Admiral]

That's the thing where they force you to be social, right?

Close enough for jazz.

Exactly. I really don't think they do. You always hear "Obama is a socialist! He wants to make everyone equal!", forgetting that's not and has never been what socialism is.

They also call him a socialist and a Nazi at the same time, never mind that those are pretty much opposites, with Nazism being kind of an extreme form of social Darwinism, which, politely, really doesn't jive with socialism.

[Amiちゃん]

Oh I know what socialism is since economics used to be my thing. I just think that there are programs out there we can do without.