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    Summary: After a while battling, I got bored with normal battling so I experimented with some stuff in OU. Ithought of a speed team for a long time, base speed of 100 was minium, but those pokes mostly are weak, get killed in a second. On day, in school, I thought of the idea of a priority team, completely priority. I made this team, battled with it I guess 35 times. It did okay, but I want to better it, take a look. UPDATE (more info) = this team was built to kill off my weakness = DD Scrafty and anything DD because DD messes me up. This Team works a lot, I laugh when people waste their time in battle DDing a Salence only to fine out that the speed makes NO DIFFERENCE!!! I ask others to try this concept of a all priority team (although not the same way I do it) because I think it is very original concept which not many test.


    Ambipom (M) @ Normal Gem
    Trait: Technician
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Brick Break
    - Fake Out
    - Acrobatics
    - Frustration/ taunt

    One way Lead. Simple Fake Out + STAB + Normal gem, then fight fighting types with acrobatics. Not sure if taunt should be used over frustration.

    Gallade (M) @ Focus Sash
    Trait: Steadfast
    EVs: 252 Att/ 252 Spd / 4 HP
    Hardy Nature
    - Swords Dance
    - Psycho Cut
    - Drain Punch
    - Shadow Sneak

    My very easy, swords dance + priority move sweeper, big staple on the team. Kills fast annoying ghosts (Gengar I am looking at you). Very good after swapping this out instead of my old dusclops.

    Empoleon (M) @ Air Balloon
    Trait: Torrent
    EVs: 16 HP / 252 SAtk / 240 Spd
    Modest Nature
    - Agility
    - Surf
    - Ice Beam
    - Grass Knot

    Fills my weaknesses to bulky waters(Quagsire I am looking at you), fire types, flying, and grass. Note that this is the ONLY poke without a priority move. Much better than the Floatzel before.

    Breloom (M) @ Toxic Orb
    Trait: Poison Heal
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Mach Punch
    - Swords Dance
    - Bullet Seed
    - Spore

    Standard Breloom. Use this one a lot after Weavile is gone, pretty good.

    Weavile (M) @ Focus Sash
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Ice Shard
    - Night Slash
    - Swords Dance
    - Low Kick

    Awesome Weavile. This is the first sweeper your see after Ambipom in most cases. Kills all the set up dragons (heavenly music plays) Most people send out steel types only to see that it has low kick hehehehehe.

    Arcanine (M) @ Life Orb
    Trait: Flash Fire
    EVs: 128 Atk / 128 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Hardy Nature
    - ExtremeSpeed
    - Flamethrower
    - Wild Charge
    - Dragon Pulse

    My mix sweeper used as a flash fire user, gets its job done. I really dont use it for sweeping more revenge killer. All around kill it if I did not finish it off also to kill Arons and rattatas of noobs as I laugh. Extremespeed is a good staple as a counter to any 1 priority hit move (which is about all of them)


    Overall = I think it is OKAY. I think I am too sweeper on my team and can be walled easily. I think I dont have much special attackers in my team as I should.

    Please rate, but with reasons
    Last edited by Fracktail; 30th October 2011 at 2:39 AM.

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    Hitmonchan has so many prioity moves its not even funny. Bullet punch, mach punch, fake out (could replace ambpom), sucker punch and, quick attack. Pick your posion. It also gets rapid spin and techintion.

    Connkleldurr with mach punch and Sizor with bullet punch can also be on this team.

    Hipmonchan can run,

    Himonchan@normal gem
    Technition
    252att/252hp/4def
    -fake out
    -mach punch
    -bullet punch
    -sucker punch

    I like the concept of this team.

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    Interesting thought. Priority-based team would want a-LOT of bulk. I'm guessing Conk and Scizor are on you teeeeaaaaammm.... Neither? Re-do. Priority is best used, if it's your main option, by bulky. I'll give a run-through.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fracktail View Post
    Summary: After a while battling, I got bored with normal battling so I experimented with some stuff in OU. On day, in school, I thought of the idea of a priority team, completely priority. I made this team, battled with it I guess 35 times. It did okay, but I want to better it, take a look.


    Ambipom (M) @ Normal Gem/Flying Gem
    Trait: Technician
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Low Sweep
    - Fake Out
    - Acrobatics
    - Frustration/Taunt

    One way Lead. Simple Fake Out + STAB + Normal gem, then fight fighting types with acrobatics. Not sure if taunt should be used over frustration.

    Not the average Ambi lead... Although Ambi isn't average. Low Sweep out-BP's Brick Break w/ Technician, and awesome Acro+Techni. You could sample the average Fake Out+Last Resort+-+- Lead, it works well. Good as is, though.

    Gallade (M) @ Focus Sash
    Trait: Steadfast
    EVs: 252 HP, 4 Atk, 252 Def
    Hardy Nature
    - Bulk Up
    - Psycho Cut
    - Drain Punch
    - Shadow Sneak

    My very easy, swords dance + priority move sweeper, big staple on the team.

    IMO, this set's better. Although, obviusly Conk is better. so use Conk.

    Guts
    Leftovers
    Adamant
    252 HP, 252 Atk, 4 SDef
    -Bulk Up
    -Mach Punch
    -Payback
    -Drain Punch

    So yeah, still got priority, but it's better 'cause STAB, got added bulk, got better healing, got better coverage, etc. /Outclass+Use it


    Empoleon (M) @ Air Balloon
    Trait: Torrent
    EVs: 16 HP / 252 SAtk / 240 Spd
    Modest Nature
    - Agility
    - Surf
    - Ice Beam
    - Grass Knot

    Fills my weaknesses to bulky waters(Quagsire I am looking at you), fire types, flying, and grass. Note that this is the ONLY poke without a priority move.

    Hmm... OK. This Empoleon built for a specific reason? Other than obvious. I can probably get you a well-off Empoleon able to use Priority, beat Quagsire and Etc if you like. I'll need info though... Like how much investment minimum for Grass Knot to OHKO Quagsire, really. It's fine right now, though.

    Breloom (M) @ Toxic Orb
    Trait: Poison Heal
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Mach Punch
    - Swords Dance
    - Bullet Seed
    - Spore

    Standard Breloom. Use this one a lot after Weavile is gone, pretty good.

    Standard not Focus Punch Breloom, you mean. It looks fine. (Lol I forgot Bullet Seed's plausibility on this. Cool now, though.)

    Weavile (M) @ Focus Sash
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Ice Shard
    - Night Slash
    - Swords Dance
    - Low Kick

    Awesome Weavile. This is the first sweeper your see after Ambipom in most cases. Most people send out steel types only to see that it has low kick hehehehehe


    Weavile's cool and all, but, seriously, it's not gonna be good. Scizor, however, should fill this role very well. Here's the most common set:

    Technician
    Leftovers(If no Item Clause)/Choice Band(If Item Clause w/ Non SD)/Life Orb(If Item Clause w/ SD)
    Adamant
    248 HP, 252 Atk, 8 SDef
    -Swords Dance/Pursuit(If CB)
    -Bullet Punch
    -Bug Bite
    -Superpower/Brick Break(If can't get Superpower)

    Much more powerful, much more bulky, much more lobster-y.


    Arcanine (M) @ Life Orb
    Trait: Flash Fire
    EVs: 128 Atk / 128 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Hardy Nature
    - ExtremeSpeed
    - Flamethrower
    - Wild Charge
    - Dragon Pulse

    My mix sweeper used as a flash fire user, gets its job done. I really dont use it for sweeping more revenge killer.

    MixCanine? Ur... I dunno. Probably want something different at least. Also, don't just even it out; get some benchmarks for the EVs. I'd tell you if I knew of them...


    Overall = I think it is OKAY. I think I am too sweeper on my team and can be walled easily. I think I dont have much special attackers in my team as I should.

    Please rate, but with reasons
    It's a very competent team, but with some glaring weaknesses. I think it may be a bit hard to pull off, but if you do, it would/will be worth it.


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    Thank you both so much. WeatherRain to answer your question about empoleon, yes it is for Quagsire seeing that all my pokes have to set up to sweep, Quagsire is a big threat. Weavile is there to kill of dragons like that age old staple dragonite, and to be honest, it sweeps more than the whole team, but I will still test Scizor, but I am not sure if it should replace Weavile, maybe But also, before I was destroyed by fire types I think too, that is why it is there. Ice Blue Dragon, I forgot about Hitmonchan(maybe a better replacement for Gallade), I was scared it would not live at all in OU, but I will give them all a try on PO today.

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    You have alot of focus sashes, but no rapid spinner.

    You might wanna take that into consideration. Rocks or Spikes could ruin your day.
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    Did you notice some of your pokemon are hardy nature?

    you could use lucario instead of empoleon it got vaccum wave (just to complete the piriority team)

    you could use dragonite instead of arcanaine or mamoswine with ice shard.

    *for the hitmonchan set- bullet punch is useless when mach punch is in the play (and you have sucker punch for ghost)
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    I'm guessing you just forgot to change the nature, seeing as Hardy is the default nature?


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    Yes I did (embarrassed) I will get cracking on that

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    Just saying but your team is too skarm weak
    plus arcanine should be using flare blitz not flamethrower
    anywhoo
    yea skarm and gliscor kind wall your whole team cept for like 1-2

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    gliscor? What about Weavile? (maybe I should have HP fire on empolean hmmmmm)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mycooly View Post
    Just saying but your team is too skarm weak
    plus arcanine should be using flare blitz not flamethrower
    anywhoo
    yea skarm and gliscor kind wall your whole team cept for like 1-2
    But having Flamethrower would really help against Skarmory. It's not like he's wasting EVs, since he's running some for Dragon Pulse anyway.

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    I said there are exceptions
    anywhoo
    arcanine isnt really supposed to be mix(or at least ive never seen one)
    itsall lo physical

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    Quote Originally Posted by mycooly View Post
    I said there are exceptions
    anywhoo
    arcanine isnt really supposed to be mix(or at least ive never seen one)
    itsall lo physical
    With 100 base special attack I don't see any problem about it...

    run naive nature (the default for mixed)

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    well it is when they have something else to take fire hits
    like tran?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mycooly View Post
    well it is when they have something else to take fire hits
    like tran?
    Prediction-> using wild charge instead.... which hurts skarmory super effective

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    I think I will swap acranine for Heatran, heatran gets flamethrower and HP ice deals with glisgor and skarmory well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fracktail View Post
    I think I will swap acranine for Heatran, heatran gets flamethrower and HP ice deals with glisgor and skarmory well
    why? it ruins the point of this team being able to laugh in pokemon who raise their speed and scarf faces is something really good on this team putting heatran will ruin it... and mixed sets are pretty good for killing stuff like skarmbliss which are REALLY annoying (or the new skarmsey) there are lots of piriority users your biggest problem is that most of the pokemons were hardy.. just change it and notice a great difference.

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    Wild Charge won't 2HKO, I believe.


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    Where's Scizor? Any priority team is a joke without Scizor.

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    Scizor is not here because me and him never worked together well. In my experience scizor was a let down ALL the time, it never sweeps. It is predicted and killed EVERYTIME within 3 turns. I am dead serious. Plus, I have too much fire weakness on my team with Weavile and breloom to add scizor, it makes my team emplode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fracktail View Post
    Summary: After a while battling, I got bored with normal battling so I experimented with some stuff in OU. Ithought of a speed team for a long time, base speed of 100 was minium, but those pokes mostly are weak, get killed in a second. On day, in school, I thought of the idea of a priority team, completely priority. I made this team, battled with it I guess 35 times. It did okay, but I want to better it, take a look. UPDATE (more info) = this team was built to kill off my weakness = DD Scrafty and anything DD because DD messes me up. This Team works a lot, I laugh when people waste their time in battle DDing a Salence only to fine out that the speed makes NO DIFFERENCE!!! I ask others to try this concept of a all priority team (although not the same way I do it) because I think it is very original concept which not many test.


    Ambipom (M) @ Normal Gem
    Trait: Technician
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Brick Break
    - Fake Out
    - Acrobatics
    - Frustration/ taunt

    One way Lead. Simple Fake Out + STAB + Normal gem, then fight fighting types with acrobatics. Not sure if taunt should be used over frustration.

    Gallade (M) @ Focus Sash
    Trait: Steadfast
    EVs: 252 Att/ 252 Spd / 4 HP
    Hardy Nature
    - Swords Dance
    - Psycho Cut
    - Drain Punch
    - Shadow Sneak

    My very easy, swords dance + priority move sweeper, big staple on the team. Kills fast annoying ghosts (Gengar I am looking at you).

    Empoleon (M) @ Air Balloon
    Trait: Torrent
    EVs: 16 HP / 252 SAtk / 240 Spd
    Modest Nature
    - Agility
    - Surf
    - Ice Beam
    - Grass Knot

    Fills my weaknesses to bulky waters(Quagsire I am looking at you), fire types, flying, and grass. Note that this is the ONLY poke without a priority move.

    Breloom (M) @ Toxic Orb
    Trait: Poison Heal
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Mach Punch
    - Swords Dance
    - Seed Bomb
    - Spore

    Standard Breloom. Use this one a lot after Weavile is gone, pretty good.

    Weavile (M) @ Focus Sash
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Ice Punch
    - Night Slash
    - Swords Dance
    - Low Kick

    Awesome Weavile. This is the first sweeper your see after Ambipom in most cases. Kills all the set up dragons (heavenly music plays) Most people send out steel types only to see that it has low kick hehehehehe

    Arcanine (M) @ Life Orb
    Trait: Flash Fire
    EVs: 128 Atk / 128 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Hardy Nature
    - ExtremeSpeed
    - Flamethrower
    - Wild Charge
    - Dragon Pulse

    My mix sweeper used as a flash fire user, gets its job done. I really dont use it for sweeping more revenge killer. All around kill it if I did not finish it off also to kill Arons and rattatas of noobs as I laugh. Extremespeed is a good staple as a counter to any 1 priority hit move (which is about all of them)


    Overall = I think it is OKAY. I think I am too sweeper on my team and can be walled easily. I think I dont have much special attackers in my team as I should.

    Please rate, but with reasons
    I think to just switch Ice Shard with Ice Punch.I don't battle competively,but I use competitive movesets ingame.For example:

    Togekiss@Lefties Timid Nature
    Serene Grace
    ~Aura Sphere
    ~Air Slash
    ~Roost
    ~Thunder Wave

    I take good movesets more seriously than my friends and my friends think that Hydro Pump is better than Surf.

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    I choose Surf over hydro pump due to haxy misses on hydro pump. Ice shard is there because this is a PRIORITY team, it allows weavile to sweep better in my opinion than ice punch.

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    I know most people run gallade max Atk, max Spe but I have been using a bulk up set with substitute, drain punch and shadow sneak. Max HP and max Atk. I think the smogon has a more specific EVs spread but this one works for me. After one or two bulk ups your subs become very hard to kill and shadow sneak combines very nicely with drain punch for recovery. Gallade is a BOSS!

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    Of course it's outclassed by Conk, though. Trust me, use both Conk and Scizor, and replace the last two with what I said.. It would help A-LOT.


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