Homosexuality & Politics in the 21st Century

[Malanu]

Gotta give some love to Obama man, I'm happy we got a president who will finally admit that gays deserve the same rights .

Thanks Obama, we appreciate it!!!

He's just trying to get re elected.

[1rkhachatryan]

He's just trying to get re elected.

Even so, who cares?? He said it that's all that counts. And I'm pretty sure that other dumbass won't win anyway lol.

[Grei]

He's just trying to get re elected.

Come on, now. Don't be like "those" people.

It's really freaking sad how little faith people have in the government. Obama makes a statement that shows he has a clear support of a specific group, and everyone assumes that he's simply using this as a political tactic.

I once attended a convocation featuring a gay priest, who told us about how Obama invited the priest and his partner to dinner with himself and the first lady. He said that Obama, by the end of the night, could see that the love between the priest and his partner was just as real as his love for Michelle. Now, months after the fact, he's finally showing his support for gay marriage.

It's really sad that, rather than even considering the idea that Obama has had a change of heart and now has altered his stance as a result, you and many others completely assume that he's saying this just to get re-elected. It's not impossible for political figures to be honest.

[Malanu]

Even so, who cares?? He said it that's all that counts. And I'm pretty sure that other dumbass won't win anyway lol.

He also said he'd have the troops out of the east by the end of his 1st year. So take it for what it's worth... If he'd been working at it I'd say cool, but just out of left field NOW he's going to look at the issue. Color me a cynic but it reminds me of Clinton bombing a Terrorist base during the height of the Lewinsky hearings!

[BigLutz]

Come on, now. Don't be like "those" people.

It's really freaking sad how little faith people have in the government. Obama makes a statement that shows he has a clear support of a specific group, and everyone assumes that he's simply using this as a political tactic.

I once attended a convocation featuring a gay priest, who told us about how Obama invited the priest and his partner to dinner with himself and the first lady. He said that Obama, by the end of the night, could see that the love between the priest and his partner was just as real as his love for Michelle. Now, months after the fact, he's finally showing his support for gay marriage.

It's really sad that, rather than even considering the idea that Obama has had a change of heart and now has altered his stance as a result, you and many others completely assume that he's saying this just to get re-elected. It's not impossible for political figures to be honest.

He waited to announce it on a political year, he was planning to announce it either at or before the convention, he also had political ads at the ready to slam Mitt Romney. You can try to call me one of "those people" but everything looks to Obama planning to use this announcement to maximize political advantage.

Even so, who cares?? He said it that's all that counts. And I'm pretty sure that other dumbass won't win anyway lol.

That other "dumbass" is leading in Gallup and Rasmussen polls.

[ebilly99]

He waited to announce it on a political year, he was planning to announce it either at or before the convention, he also had political ads at the ready to slam Mitt Romney. You can try to call me one of "those people" but everything looks to Obama planning to use this announcement to maximize political advantage.

He waited till someones rights were attacked. Blame north Carolina.

That other "dumbass" is leading in Gallup and Rasmussen polls.

Becuase we all know third party's never steal votes... And Obama doesn't have any to lose.

[BigLutz]

He waited till someones rights were attacked. Blame north Carolina.

Actually he waited until Biden opened his big mouth. Note that Obama refused to campaign in North Carolina before the election, he hung the gays in that state out to dry. And Biden has actually apologized today for moving Obama's political timeline up.

Becuase we all know third party's never steal votes... And Obama doesn't have any to lose.

Umm, if Ron Paul runs as a third party, Romney actually wins by a larger margin as it takes away the youth vote from Obama.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...39_ron_paul_13

[Malanu]

He waited till someones rights were attacked. Blame north Carolina.

Yeah cause the other 29 states before it wasn't enough reason right?

[ebilly99]

Actually he waited until Biden opened his big mouth. Note that Obama refused to campaign in North Carolina before the election, he hung the gays in that state out to dry. And Biden has actually apologized today for moving Obama's political timeline up.



Umm, if Ron Paul runs as a third party, Romney actually wins by a larger margin as it takes away the youth vote from Obama.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...39_ron_paul_13

You name the one guy who can take votes from Obama. Almost anyone else and the race is razor thin margin of victory either way.

[BigLutz]

You name the one guy who can take votes from Obama. Almost anyone else and the race is razor thin margin of victory either way.

Because there is no other major libertarian that could run a race to actually take votes away and get name recognition out? I notice you have ignored the part about Obama not campaigning in North Carolina.

[ebilly99]

Because there is no other major libertarian that could run a race to actually take votes away and get name recognition out? I notice you have ignored the part about Obama not campaigning in North Carolina.

I concede defeat there.

[marioguy]

He's just trying to get re elected.

As I said earlier:

Obama said he supported gay marriage today. I don't see how this would help with his reelection. Most people who are pro-gay were already on Obama's side.

[Zevn]

Lesbians really get the best deal in the bedroom. Never having to worry about someone getting pregnant, and getting to play submissive or control roles.

*sigh*

Oh right, politics. The typical right-wing attitude towards homosexuality is abhorrent. While I remain disgusted by their prejudice, it pays to remember than humanity isn't that far along in it's development. Shunning the different was a trait that undoubtedly survived natural selection. Anyway, humanity will move past these things eventually. The ancient texts people rely on for moral guidance will fade from use when they realize that right and wrong need not be imposed from an external source.

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All PDA is gross unless it's you and the person you're with.

:-|

Perspective.

[Malanu]

Obama said he supported gay marriage today. I don't see how this would help with his reelection. Most people who are pro-gay were already on Obama's side.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...googlenews_wsj
With this quote kinda putting the lie to your statement:

Some leading gay and progressive donors are so angry over President Obama's refusal to sign an executive order barring same sex discrimination by federal contractors that they are refusing to give any more money to the pro-Obama super PAC, a top gay fundraiser's office tells me. In some cases, I'm told, big donations are being withheld.

So they WERE on his side but had to threaten his war chest to make him support them?

[Zevn]

So they WERE on his side but had to threaten his war chest to make him support them?

Yet another example of people choosing their battles unwisely.

[Malanu]

yeah waiting till 58% of the states ban gay marriage is not the best battle plan.

[marioguy]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...googlenews_wsj
With this quote kinda putting the lie to your statement:
So they WERE on his side but had to threaten his war chest to make him support them?

So Obama flipped only to keep a few gay people from leaving his side? That doesn't outweigh the loss of anti-gay supporters.

[Kaiserin]

So Obama flipped only to keep a few gay people from leaving his side? That doesn't outweigh the loss of anti-gay supporters.

A few gay people that were threatening not to give him significant money. Big difference.

I'm fairly comfortable in assuming that most of the diehard anti-gay supporters were already not inclined to vote for Obama anyway, even before this.

[7 tyranitars]

He's just trying to get re elected.

Smart move in a country where about 50% is against and about 50% is in favor :P..

[ebilly99]

Smart move in a country where about 50% is against and about 50% is in favor :P..

Actually yes it is. Those who are in favor of gay marriage do have a lot of money backing them. (Hollywood) Also we are not voting for Obama the Politican, we are Voting for "Obama"SUPERSTAR. Obama is running as a famous person, not on his record.