For something to be completely arbitrary, that would mean there is no reason behind it. People, including God, don't do things with no motive. If God said 'X is bad', there MUST be at least one reason he had for saying so (and at least 1 reason for allowing a book of books with statements against it to contain such things, although the number of reasons would actually probably require scientific notation to express, i.e. there would be LOADS of reasons). If something is a sin, there MUST be at least one reason that the sin is harmful to at least 1 person (or living creature in some cases), otherwise, I don't see how it's a sin. God does not play dice with the universe (cookies if you can quote who said that).
Originally Posted by mattj
As far as opinion is concerned, with God, it'd be about facts, not opinions, as he knows everything. However, when dishing out laws, they have to fit the society the laws are for. Some laws will remain eternal ("Thou shalt not murder." is something I don't see going away ever), but some laws may not fit other societies, e.g. Mosaic Law in Leviticus. What I'm getting at, is that there are sometimes exceptions to laws, e.g. stealing food so that you don't die. That's clearly lawbreaking, and something that is rightly condemned, yet it is also an obvious exception to "Thou shalt not steal" that is necessary.
If the Bible says "Thou shalt not XXX." and never says "Okay, its cool now." Why should anyone believe that the God of the Bible has changed his opinion?
If you're saying that homosexual people are going to be denied entry into Heaven (based on one passage I saw about people who cannot get into the kingdom of heaven), who's to say God wouldn't offer a 'fix' for homosexuality that they never chose before choosing whether or not to allow them access? According to you, in the past, this has happened already with some people before death (correct me if I'm wrong). I'm not going to say it's right to force people not to have certain types of sex, but I would caution people against the blatantly obvious health risks. I'm not going to say it's wrong for relationships between people of the same gender either. I'd also disagree with them going to Hell just because they're homosexuals that practices sodomy, if their nature means it's harmful for them NOT to do it (I don't know much about this area though). One thing I can never do with the Bible is to simply accept things at face value, doing so means the book falls apart with 'contradictions' that turn up at face value, especially with stuff like God in the Old Testament. Also, accepting things at face value goes against the teachings in Proverbs 14:15.
If you want to debate this further, I'd suggest the tangent thread, unless the conversation remains strictly on the Homosexuality & Politics area. As for whether religion is a tangent though, that itself is debatable, as it's one of the biggest things misused to bash homosexuals (I'm not saying that there aren't people that are religious and disagree with homosexuality).
I will not trade for hacked/cloned pokemon.
5th gen: I can breed max Sp.Att/Speed Zoruas with Extrasensory and Dark Pulse with a modest nature.