The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

[Ignika]

I could've sworn Beth recently said something about Dragonborn being released on PC and PS3 at the same time in January, so there's that.

Well, PS3 and PC were supposed to get it at the same time back in August, and we know how that went.

I still haven't pirated Dawnguard, but from what I've heard/seen, it's pretty bland. Not sure if I should bother wasting the HDD space.

B-But you can be a floating... vampire... thing...

Nah it's not really worth it.

[noobers]

The Skyrim DLC packs (including that new one on 360) are neat and all, but they really just add more of the same. I guess it's worth it if you are really into Skyrim and not aware/don't care about its flaws. If you've played Oblivion, the DLCs are all basically like beefier versions of Knights of the Nine as far as the type of content to expect. Also if you only play Skyrim on console they are a much better value there, since consoles have no mods. It's a good buy for $10, I guess.

[GreatGonzales]

I figured since Dawnguard was manageable at lvl 10, Dragonborn wouldn't be that difficult either.

Some good did come from my attempts. I did manage a few non-ash spawn side quests, like delivering drinks to town members, fetching a book from a ship, and a Ancient Nordic Pickaxe from someone.
i also found Meridia's Beacon in a chest in Hrodulf's House.

and i also forgot to mention, a dragon attacked raven rock 5 minutes after i arrived.

Same with the dragon...
No, you need. To be a high level for dragonborn. Enemies are super tough, and have high HP. I constantly use adept destruction spells, and it takes like 10 fireballs to kill certain enemies. I was level 39 when I started, I believe.

For those of you still thinking about Dawnguard, if you aren't going to become a vampire, don't get it. You're paying 20 bucks for a linear questline. Not worth it. But I was very impressed with dragonborn. It actually delivered an expansion. New island, questline, powers, abilities. Get it.

[pikasaur]

so around level 39 for Dragonborn eh?

At least it gives me a reason to do the main story past Diplomatic Immunity this time. By the time i get to and/or beat this quest i usually restart for one reason or another.

thats right, one year and i haven't beaten the main story. even playing it once a day every day, until sometime in summer of 2012. Im awesome

[ArmorAndonomon]

If you've played Oblivion, the DLCs are all basically like beefier versions of Knights of the Nine as far as the type of content to expect. Also if you only play Skyrim on console they are a much better value there, since consoles have no mods. It's a good buy for $10, I guess.

Knights of the Nine was kinda bland, really. It was a nice idea, it just wasn't as grand as I had hoped.

For those of you still thinking about Dawnguard, if you aren't going to become a vampire, don't get it. You're paying 20 bucks for a linear questline. Not worth it. But I was very impressed with dragonborn. It actually delivered an expansion. New island, questline, powers, abilities. Get it.

I wasn't going to buy it anyways, I was going to just pirate it. :u
Until we get a DLC like Shivering Isles, something absolutely massive, I'm not buying anything.

[Doux]

The first time I played, something happened where I was sitting in the wagon at the beginning and there was that guy sitting across from me, but for some reason that never changed. Nothing else happened. It just stayed there. D:

[Thomas Elliot]

I was really hyped on this game around this time last year, I really wanted to get it for PS3. But after hearing a bunch of negative things about it, the delayed DLC and minimal price drop, my interest has significantly lowered.
So my question is, a year out, is it still worth picking up? Or should I just wait until the Complete edition drops?

[ArmorAndonomon]

I was really hyped on this game around this time last year, I really wanted to get it for PS3. But after hearing a bunch of negative things about it, the delayed DLC and minimal price drop, my interest has significantly lowered.
So my question is, a year out, is it still worth picking up? Or should I just wait until the Complete edition drops?

If you have played any TES games before, after the "OH GOD NEW GAME" hype wears off, you'll be slightly disappointed after playing it. Something about it just seems strange, after playing through the other four games. It's not a bad strange, it just feels like Skyrim is a completely different game from the others. Honestly, I can't play it anymore without mods. I still enjoy it, but not as much as I did when it came out. I mean, I can't play Morrowind or Oblivion without mods either, but in Skyrim they feel absolutely necessary.

If you've never picked up an Elder Scrolls game before, I'd say get it (wait for the price drop), but there's a couple of hitches with it.
I compare Skyrim in The Elder Scrolls series to Persona 3/4 in the SMT series; they're great games on their own, there's no doubt about it, but they don't give you the authentic feeling that the originals/main line games give you. You might find going back into the previous titles a little harder, just because the gameplay is so drastically different, that you'll automatically throw the old games to the side, which definitely should not be done.
Also, if you DO get Skyrim, I really recommend getting it on the PC, just for the purpose of modding and replay value. Yes, there are infinitely spawning quests, but those are typically fetch quests or "go to X and kill Y" quests, and they get REALLY dull after awhile. If you can't get it for PC, then hold off and see what Beth does with the add-ons for the PS3. Looking at all the issues they're having with them, it might be safe to say the PS3 is going to get it's own DLC all together, but wait awhile. I'd say if there's nothing before June, just go ahead and get it then.


TL;DR:
Skyrim is a completely different beast compared to the other TES titles, but it is still a good title with some pretty good replay value, if you are creative enough. If you haven't played TES before, get it, but DO NOT take Skyrim's gameplay as how the entire series works. If you HAVE played TES games before, it's pretty different, but still great to play through.

[Un0va]

If you have played any TES games before, after the "OH GOD NEW GAME" hype wears off, you'll be slightly disappointed after playing it. Something about it just seems strange, after playing through the other four games. It's not a bad strange, it just feels like Skyrim is a completely different game from the others. Honestly, I can't play it anymore without mods. I still enjoy it, but not as much as I did when it came out. I mean, I can't play Morrowind or Oblivion without mods either, but in Skyrim they feel absolutely necessary.

If you've never picked up an Elder Scrolls game before, I'd say get it (wait for the price drop), but there's a couple of hitches with it.
I compare Skyrim in The Elder Scrolls series to Persona 3/4 in the SMT series; they're great games on their own, there's no doubt about it, but they don't give you the authentic feeling that the originals/main line games give you. You might find going back into the previous titles a little harder, just because the gameplay is so drastically different, that you'll automatically throw the old games to the side, which definitely should not be done.
Also, if you DO get Skyrim, I really recommend getting it on the PC, just for the purpose of modding and replay value. Yes, there are infinitely spawning quests, but those are typically fetch quests or "go to X and kill Y" quests, and they get REALLY dull after awhile. If you can't get it for PC, then hold off and see what Beth does with the add-ons for the PS3. Looking at all the issues they're having with them, it might be safe to say the PS3 is going to get it's own DLC all together, but wait awhile. I'd say if there's nothing before June, just go ahead and get it then.


TL;DR:
Skyrim is a completely different beast compared to the other TES titles, but it is still a good title with some pretty good replay value, if you are creative enough. If you haven't played TES before, get it, but DO NOT take Skyrim's gameplay as how the entire series works. If you HAVE played TES games before, it's pretty different, but still great to play through.

Basically this.

Even disregarding the mods, you definitely should avoid getting it on PS3 - my friend let me borrow his PS3 copy and it plays horribly. It runs at like 20 FPS and there are lag spikes every few seconds (albeit minor ones).

[GreatGonzales]

Until we get a DLC like Shivering Isles, something absolutely massive, I'm not buying anything.

Why was shivering isles so big? What was in it? I understand you go to Sheogorath's realm of oblivion, but can someone explain it in a bit more detail?

Also, I just got oblivion. What should my main skills be?

[ArmorAndonomon]

Why was shivering isles so big? What was in it? I understand you go to Sheogorath's realm of oblivion, but can someone explain it in a bit more detail?

None can say why it was so large, but it was huge and we don't care, because it was pretty much an entire campaign by itself, which is why it was so expensive at the time. It's exactly what DLC SHOULD be. But yeah, you went to Sheogorath's realm of Oblivion, and you have to help him stop himself from destroying his realm, and in the end, spoilers, your character becomes the new Mad God. It's pretty awesome.
I'm only posting that outside of spoilers because it's been around for years, so it's not really a spoiler.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Shivering:About

[Thomas Elliot]

This is really good to know. I don't PC game, so PS3 would have been my preferred option.

[ebevan91]

Halfway on-topic, halfway off: I just started Oblivion for the first time last night while waiting on Dragonborn. It needs to release on PC already. I know I should be lucky I don't play on PS3, but still... I hate how Microsoft and the Xbox gets the DLC over a month early.

[pikasaur]

just decided to give Oblivion a 3rd try after not liking it twice before. Only interesting thing I've found so far is unlocking the dark brotherhood quests after killing the 3 argonians in the arena.

Other than that its still pretty boring. Nothing happens in between towns, almost nothing in dungeons 99% of the time, and lock picking and leveling sucks.

Surprised they made skyrim so good after they had this game.

[woot21]

I got Skyrim for Christmas, and am loving so far. Quick question though, the Jarl of Makarath isn't giving me the option to do work for them, so I currently have no way of purchasing the house there. Is there a way to fix this? Also, I'm on the 360.

woot21 out dawgs

[pikasaur]

The Skyrim wiki says that if you completed, The Forsworn Conspiracy, the option to buy a house in Markarth may disappear.

it says to try and fix it complete all "Kill the leader of [random location]" quests under Miscellaneous, that you may have.

If all else fails, I suggest maybe doing the civil war quest line in favor of the stormcloaks so Markarth gets a new jarl.

[woot21]

The Skyrim wiki says that if you completed, The Forsworn Conspiracy, the option to buy a house in Markarth may disappear.

it says to try and fix it complete all "Kill the leader of [random location]" quests under Miscellaneous, that you may have.

If all else fails, I suggest maybe doing the civil war quest line in favor of the stormcloaks so Markarth gets a new jarl.

Would getting to Season Unending and having Markarth go to the Stormcloaks work for that as well? Because I have too many misc quests active right now that I need to do, and I don't want to look through all of them.

Oh, and is there a reason that the guards of holds are attacking me on sight when I don't have bounty? I'm wearing the Shrouded Gloves when this happens.

woot21 out dawgs

[ArmorAndonomon]

just decided to give Oblivion a 3rd try after not liking it twice before. Only interesting thing I've found so far is unlocking the dark brotherhood quests after killing the 3 argonians in the arena.

Other than that its still pretty boring. Nothing happens in between towns, almost nothing in dungeons 99% of the time, and lock picking and leveling sucks.

Surprised they made skyrim so good after they had this game.

I'll assume you started with Skyrim. :u
As I have warned before, they are two different beasts entirely. Starting with Skyrim gives an unfair bias against the older games, when they're nothing alike at all. Oblivion is more of a game involving patience, urging you to explore and do your own thing, instead of Skryim, which pretty much rewards you for having a character that can do everything instead of specializing, and you don't have to be patient at all, you just rush in and do whatever. Oblivion counts on the idea that you will talk to EVERYONE, and ask for rumors to lead you to new quests, and that you will explore every inch of the land without someone telling you "OH GOD SOME DUDE STOLE MY X AND WENT TO Y CAVE GO THERE EVEN THOUGH YOU PROBABLY RAN PAST IT BEFORE."

Also, Leveling in Oblivion is different because your character isn't meant to be a jack of all trades moron like in Skyrim; you focus on your main skills and create your character to adapt to certain situations. You're rewarded in Skyrim for just doing whatever you want, which is why it appeals to a wider, ADD audience, because the idea of trying to stick to one or two methods of doing things is tedious and boring to them.

If you want to enjoy Oblivion, forget EVERYTHING you know about Skryim. Try to get into the atmosphere, get comfortable, and be willing to explore and talk to people in-game. Also, Shivering Isles. Yeah, Oblivion's main plot is pretty bland (Skyrim's is arguably even more bland, but HURR DURR DRAGONS XD), but you don't have to focus on the main plot. The Dark Brotherhood plot is pretty damn good, and the Thieves' Guild isn't too bad either, but if you would plan on doing them both in one run, you MUST do the Thieves' guild first, because their plots mix together. The best order to actually do the guilds in is probably Thieves', Fighters', Mage's, and finish with DB.

Did I mention do the Shivering Isles? Because you should go to the Shivering Isles.

Also, Skyrim's caves and dungeons are RIDICULOUSLY linear compared to any other game in the series. Then again, most games these days are pretty damn linear, which for a sandbox game is disgusting.

[pikasaur]

I'll assume you started with Skyrim. :u
As I have warned before, they are two different beasts entirely. Starting with Skyrim gives an unfair bias against the older games, when they're nothing alike at all. Oblivion is more of a game involving patience, urging you to explore and do your own thing, instead of Skryim, which pretty much rewards you for having a character that can do everything instead of specializing, and you don't have to be patient at all, you just rush in and do whatever. Oblivion counts on the idea that you will talk to EVERYONE, and ask for rumors to lead you to new quests, and that you will explore every inch of the land without someone telling you "OH GOD SOME DUDE STOLE MY X AND WENT TO Y CAVE GO THERE EVEN THOUGH YOU PROBABLY RAN PAST IT BEFORE."

Also, Leveling in Oblivion is different because your character isn't meant to be a jack of all trades moron like in Skyrim; you focus on your main skills and create your character to adapt to certain situations. You're rewarded in Skyrim for just doing whatever you want, which is why it appeals to a wider, ADD audience, because the idea of trying to stick to one or two methods of doing things is tedious and boring to them.

If you want to enjoy Oblivion, forget EVERYTHING you know about Skryim. Try to get into the atmosphere, get comfortable, and be willing to explore and talk to people in-game. Also, Shivering Isles. Yeah, Oblivion's main plot is pretty bland (Skyrim's is arguably even more bland, but HURR DURR DRAGONS XD), but you don't have to focus on the main plot. The Dark Brotherhood plot is pretty damn good, and the Thieves' Guild isn't too bad either, but if you would plan on doing them both in one run, you MUST do the Thieves' guild first, because their plots mix together. The best order to actually do the guilds in is probably Thieves', Fighters', Mage's, and finish with DB.

Did I mention do the Shivering Isles? Because you should go to the Shivering Isles.

Also, Skyrim's caves and dungeons are RIDICULOUSLY linear compared to any other game in the series. Then again, most games these days are pretty damn linear, which for a sandbox game is disgusting.

yes i did start with skyrim.

Asking for rumors in the imperial city though, only leads to people saying how good some stores are.

and since i only rented Oblivion, i don't plan on buying Shivering Isles.

also, what city are the guilds in?

Would getting to Season Unending and having Markarth go to the Stormcloaks work for that as well? Because I have too many misc quests active right now that I need to do, and I don't want to look through all of them.

Oh, and is there a reason that the guards of holds are attacking me on sight when I don't have bounty? I'm wearing the Shrouded Gloves when this happens.

woot21 out dawgs

I always do the civil war quests before i get that far, but from what I've read doing Season unending would work too.

As for the guards, unless your a vampire i have no idea.

[ArmorAndonomon]

yes i did start with skyrim.

Asking for rumors in the imperial city though, only leads to people saying how good some stores are.

and since i only rented Oblivion, i don't plan on buying Shivering Isles.

also, what city are the guilds in?

What system did you rent it for, if you don't mind me asking?

The Fighter's and Mages' guilds are in all cities, except for the Imperial city, which only has the Mage's College.
The Thieves' Guild is everywhere, but starts in the Imperial City, by the docks.
The Dark Brotherhood is also everywhere, but starts when you kill an innocent person and then sleep.

The Imperial City isn't that great for rumors, unless you're looking for one of the ways to start the Thieves' guild quests, then you bribe a bum and ask them for rumors. Most other cities and random encounters can tip you off for some pretty creative quests, including one where you go into a painting. It's p cool.