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    Quote Originally Posted by girazard View Post
    How could you've faced a team "consisting of all EIGHT of the above Pokemon"?
    I didn't. I meant to say that it had six of the eight. I apologize for being unclear.

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    I ignore Smogon. I just use what I love. I train the same species of pokemon with different natures, you know just to get a feel off how a pokemon battles with a different nature and moveset. Like a Torterra with leech seed, Toxic, Protect, and Wood hammer. Also it would have a defense/sp. defense boosting nature. I just experiment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deoxysxx View Post
    I ignore Smogon. I just use what I love. I train the same species of pokemon with different natures, you know just to get a feel off how a pokemon battles with a different nature and moveset. Like a Torterra with leech seed, Toxic, Protect, and Wood hammer. Also it would have a defense/sp. defense boosting nature. I just experiment.
    That bolded statment is a great statement, who cares about the tiers OR Smogon? No, really, THAT is a GREAT statment and, honestly, I don't care because really being a Pokemon Master is to beat anyone with your favourites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoulDialga View Post
    That bolded statment is a great statement, who cares about the tiers OR Smogon? No, really, THAT is a GREAT statment and, honestly, I don't care because really being a Pokemon Master is to beat anyone with your favourites.
    I'd actually unbold the Smogon part. The Smogon part isn't important, because listening to Smogon doesn't automatically mean you don't play with your favorites. Because by that logic, my play style wouldn't exist, because I a.) Take a look at Smogon and b.) Play with my favorites.

    I don't care too much about tiers though, that is true. But that was taken care of two pages ago; it's not the issue. I really wish people would stop confusing "Following Smogon" with "Battle without originality/doesn't play with their favorites."

    Smogon provides info on the Pokemon you are looking up. On your own, you probably wouldn't realize half the stuff that Smogon points out, all of which are really only beneficial to team building. Does that mean you have to follow the Pokemon to the exact dot? No; you are the one building the Pokemon. Just make sure you're thinking through exactly what you are doing.

    I play with Pokemon I love. If I don't like a Pokemon, I'm not using it. I love Trick Room, and Bronzong is apparently bomb in Trick Room. But I don't like Bronzong, so I'm not using it. Same thing with Legendaries; I do not care to use them. So even if they would fit a slot on my team better than a Pokemon I like, I'm not changing it. But I follow Smogon. I see what they say so that I can knowledgeably build a team of Pokemon that I do like.


    Quote Originally Posted by deoxysxx View Post
    I ignore Smogon. I just use what I love. I train the same species of pokemon with different natures, you know just to get a feel off how a pokemon battles with a different nature and moveset. Like a Torterra with leech seed, Toxic, Protect, and Wood hammer. Also it would have a defense/sp. defense boosting nature. I just experiment.
    All the power to you! Like seriously, it's awesome that you're trying to figure this stuff out on your own. This is what the whole being a trainer thing is about; figuring things out. Some people, me included, prefer to do research on what our Pokemon can do. Unfortunately, and I try to avoid this as much as possible, some people just copy paste what they learn. That is the no-no.

    So yeah, keep up what you're doing. You're the kind of trainer that Pokemon calls for.
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    Oh, so this is a no-minded flame war? This is NOTHING BUT NONSENSE OVER WHAT ANOTHER SITE CAME UP WITH. There is nothing I care about. This is SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT the OP, not a post-made flame war and debate over which Pokemon are better than others. And I DON'T FOLLOW Smogon because I HAVE NO NEED TO. And I already play with my favs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoulDialga View Post
    Oh, so this is a no-minded flame war? This is NOTHING BUT NONSENSE OVER WHAT ANOTHER SITE CAME UP WITH. There is nothing I care about. This is SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT the OP, not a post-made flame war and debate over which Pokemon are better than others. And I DON'T FOLLOW Smogon because I HAVE NO NEED TO. And I already play with my favs.
    Hey, wasn't flaming you bra. Or trying to start anything, calm down. I was just saying, the whole "Smogon good/Smogon bad" thing was taken care of. Let's not go back to that. I was merely stating that Smogon really isn't as bad as many people make it out to be. I'm not forcing you to follow them, I'm not telling you they're super cool. I'm just saying that they are informative if that's what you're looking for.

    And I agree very much with your post, but I was just saying. Though ideally it is best to play with your favorites, strategy is also integral. Surely you (not specifically you, but you the reader) have more than 6 favorite Pokemon, and devising a strategy around what you do like is what I feel is ideal.

    I do congratulate you on using your favorites though. As long as you're having fun, then it's all good, right?

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    I love Gyarados, Staraptor and Salamence. I use them because they both work well, and they have a design I like.

    Anyway, I try to be a little original, but I'm not obsessed with the idea of it. I've used a Choice Scarf Archeops, but replaced it with a Choice Scarf Hydreigon because I kept losing to Jellicent and Skarmory. If it weren't for those two, I would of actually kept Archeops.

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    It's become to the point where people start to act like ur rival in hg/ss to where they think pokemon that are weak are useless and that pokemon are expendable. It's true to an extent but i think some people get carried away with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACHOE! View Post
    Hey, wasn't flaming you bra. Or trying to start anything, calm down. I was just saying, the whole "Smogon good/Smogon bad" thing was taken care of. Let's not go back to that. I was merely stating that Smogon really isn't as bad as many people make it out to be. I'm not forcing you to follow them, I'm not telling you they're super cool. I'm just saying that they are informative if that's what you're looking for.

    And I agree very much with your post, but I was just saying. Though ideally it is best to play with your favorites, strategy is also integral. Surely you (not specifically you, but you the reader) have more than 6 favorite Pokemon, and devising a strategy around what you do like is what I feel is ideal.

    I do congratulate you on using your favorites though. As long as you're having fun, then it's all good, right?

        Spoiler:- For the record, in regards to your attack(?) at me about the OP:
    This kinda sounds like an apology from you, so apology accepted. I honestly think that Smogon should have more sets. The Pokemon who form the main pinnacle of my team are: Dialga, Typhlosion, and Empoleon. And I play it all-out.


    Quote Originally Posted by Zachmac View Post
    I love Gyarados, Staraptor and Salamence. I use them because they both work well, and they have a design I like.

    Anyway, I try to be a little original, but I'm not obsessed with the idea of it. I've used a Choice Scarf Archeops, but replaced it with a Choice Scarf Hydreigon because I kept losing to Jellicent and Skarmory. If it weren't for those two, I would of actually kept Archeops.

    I put winning first, but I always have one of my favorites on my team.
    I keep them neutral because it's part of my battle style. I like to be original, but my Pokemon sometimes change depending on my mood.

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    It's become to the point where people start to act like ur rival in hg/ss to where they think pokemon that are weak are useless and that pokemon are expendable. It's true to an extent but i think some people get carried away with it
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    I just play with Pokemon that I think I'd like. Salamence is one of those, but he's the only one. Granted, I do have a Lucario, but I don't use it very often.
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    The Pokemon I use are mostly based on looks.

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    Then I guess you won't be using poor Stunfisk anytime soon.

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    Oh come on stunfisk is awesome looking.

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    The reason for some pokemon being used more than others is because they're simply more effective than others. Pokemon wasn't created with competetive play options in mind. In fact, very few pokemon were created with that in mind. Otherwise, we would see pokemon like:

    Poliwrath with Technician; Aqua Jet, Mach punch, and Bullet Punch.
    Emolga would have an ability that gave its switch attacks priority.
    Sunflora would have a Grass/Fire evolution that would be the Garchomp of Sun.

    Nintendo didn't create Pokemon solely for competetive play. But, there are ways to make certain pokemon work. Eelektross is one of my favorites, and I use him in OU, despite his classfication in NU. I actually use a Trick Room team. Since he's mixed 252 Atk/SpAtk, Trick room lets him exploit his awful speed and let's him move first and OHKO many of thing that would normally laugh at him.

    My point? Any pokemon is usable with enough planning. Do you like Sceptile? Use a double battle team that spealizes in give him berries and gems so he can get multiple Unburden boosts. Like Bisharp? Use focus sash, sword dance, and metal burst to take out the dark resistant pokemon that expect a Sucker Punch. Like Dragonair, but hate Dragonite? Use a Thunder wave, Toxic, Dragon Tail, and Aqua Tail set for status spreading and phazing.
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    Okay, I do not play with tiers so I use whatever Pokemon I like, not just OU ones.
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    To be honest, I'd rather face the same Pokemon on different teams than those 121313516986 fisherman in a row with 6 Magikarps each

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    Hey I've got Kabutops on my team. How often do you see him?

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    People generally pick pokemon based on stats and those pokes are just that. It is easier to win with those pokes then say, magneton or cradily, unless people actually use strategies

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    i use the pokemon i like, and if theyre on the OU list, i really couldnt care less. i like metagross, salamence, and lucario a lot, but ppl just use them cuz theyre good sweepers or whatever, i know that my opinion wasnt swayed cuz of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadeShadow View Post
    i use the pokemon i like, and if theyre on the OU list, i really couldnt care less. i like metagross, salamence, and lucario a lot, but ppl just use them cuz theyre good sweepers or whatever, i know that my opinion wasnt swayed cuz of that.
    GREATEST. STATEMENT. EVER. And I am not sarcastic. This is one of the greatest things EVER. I use the Pokemon that I like, I don't care if they're whatever Smogon, etc., says they are because I am 93.7% sure that GameFreak did NOT want Pokemon being sorted into TIERS. I like A LOT of Pokemon a lot because of them working with my dream strategy. Yeah, people just use OU Pokemon because they either are kinda like everyone's rival, or they like it personally. My opinion was not swayed either. My dream strategy, if you wanna know, is to use special attackers, yet keep a good speed.

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    I'm sorry but you can't have too much originality if you want to win. There are a lot of Pokemon in OU but less than half are actually useable. Smogon split the Pokemon of OU into several tiers with the S and A tiers being the highest tiers (http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3473637). You're not going to win unless most of your Pokemon come from the upper tiers of OU. However, there is a little bit of wiggle room...actually I'd argue that the best teams are pretty generic and copy pasta for the most part with no more than one pokemon deviating from the norm but only because it "synergizes" with the rest of the team.

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    Thread was dead for over a year.. until someone Bumped it. Shuting.
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