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  1. #126
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    I didn't really care for Katherine's dub voice, it kind of made her more annoying to me to be honest, which I guess is fine since she seems like she's meant to be annoying.

    Garbodor sounded odd to me, but I'm fine with it's voice.

    Overall, I enjoyed the dub version.
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  2. #127
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    Scraggy and the demanding Gothita is one of the better episodes of the Black and White Saga. This episode focuses on the character interaction between Scraggy, Axew, Snivy, and Gothita. Scraggy and Axew’s friendship (or Bromance, if you like) is absolutely adorable and I wish that it was focused on or shown more often. Axew cares deeply for Scraggy as both a best friend and little brother. He was the most worried about losing Scraggy to Gothita, and became jealous and angry of Gothita as a result. Scraggy is the more naďve of the pair, much like his trainer. He is completely oblivious to Gothita’s crush on him, treating her as a new friend at best or an opponent at worst; he humorously tried to attack Gothita when they first met, only to miss his target and give both Gothita and the audience something to laugh at. He was also had no clue that Gothita was trying to take him away from Axew, his trainer, and friends. This is seen in a humorous moment when Scraggy keeps on eating when everyone else learns that Gothita wants a trade and the react appropriately. He still deeply cares for Axew, as seen when he tries to protect him from Garbodor with his High Jump Kick.

    Gothita is the episode’s main villain, as she tries to take away Scraggy from our protagonist. She is not evil, however; she is merely a spoiled child who expects to get everything she wants and gets angry when her trainer Katherine does not give it to her. Gothita constantly orders around Katherine, and it is noted by both Iris verbally and Axew visually in his dream that Gothita is the one who wears the pants in this relationship; Gothita and Katherine could be a metaphor for the results of bad parenting. Snivy, while not very interesting as a Pokémon battler, is interesting as a character. She is constantly watching over the younger Pokémon, keeping them safe like a mother or older sister. As soon as she sees Gothita disrupt the peace of their group, she vows to keep a vigilant watch on Gothita. She is very upset when Gothita puts Axew and Scraggy in danger, and purposely protects only Axew and Scraggy while letting the little Psychic-Type have her just deserts. Despite all of this, she continues to keep her cool and never miss a beat. Given her literally spanking Gothita as well as Gothita’s anger before and after the battle, Snivy is the first being to ever give the little Psychic-Type parental discipline.

    As for the trainers, Katherine seems like a nice enough trainer, but her complete devotion to Gothita makes her merely a puppet to the Fixation Pokémon. The way she became a witch at Gothita’s command to goad Ash into battling her makes me believe she has done this before. I would love for both Katherine and Gothita to return so we can see how others would react to the pair. As for the others, Ash tried to resist trading and the high-stakes battle though his hot-headed nature got the better of him and accepted the challenge. Iris did very little in this episode so I have nothing to say of her. Cilan is mostly the same, but he did have moments of humor: chatting excitedly about the Nimbasa Subway to Katherine while completely ignoring the Katherine wasn’t interested at all and looked a bit embarrassed was both funny and a nice continuity nod. Secondly, the fact that Cilan is flamboyantly dressed in Axew’s nightmare was both funny and makes one wonder what Axew really thinks about Cilan.

    While the character development was good, I feel that the episode’s battles were lacking. Tepig once again shows his unusually high amount of endurance, taking attacks that should have knocked it out, or at least wound it severely (the first Brave Bird comes to mind). The fact that the final collision did not knock the piglet back at all also felt unrealistic. Gothita commanding Katherine was a nice quirk, but one must wonder how Katherine can understand which attack Gothita wants her Pokémon to use. The Snivy and Gothita was much better and more realistic, but whatever happened to the final Psyshock? Gothita uses Psyshock while Snivy uses Leaf Storm; we see Leaf Storm hit but the Psyshock is completely ignored.

    For dub voices and lines, the voices were all fine in this episode; I like how Casey’s VA came back to voice Katherine. Iris mentioned how Cilan was a great chef, but how is making normal looking sandwiches make one a chef. At another moment, it starts to rain heavily and Ash simply says “It’s raining.” Thank you Captain Obvious! I felt the music this episode was fine, as I can’t tell the difference between dub and raw music unless it is a game theme. The music used when Deerling used Aromatherapy felt too triumphant for such a simple and nonviolent solution.

    Overall, I really liked this episode. It has great characterization, funny humor, and okay battles. I hope more BW episodes are like this one; if they were then I might have a higher opinion of the Black and White Saga.

    Edit: I forgot about Tranquil! Did you know that Ash has a Tranquil? And that he used it today? Why will Ash use Tranquil to look for lost Pokemon, but not let it out of its ball to hang out with the others? It didn't eat lunch with the other Pokemon, it did not cheer on its fellow Pokemon while they were battling, and we never saw Tranquil actually find the lost Pokemon or return to its Pokeball. It was as though Tranquil was an after thought when it came to this episode. It is sad that a Pokemon has to be marketable these days in order to get an attention from the writers.
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  3. #128
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    Man, that gothita was a spoiled little brat. But it was a good axew episode.

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    The episode is airing today again.

    I want to re-watch that funny dream sequence.

  5. #130
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    I loved seeing Gothita being beat up by Snivy. I don't think the trainer was being fair to Ash since he already has the types of those Pokemon she offered to trade.

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    If people are wondering if Katherine makes it to the league, here's the answer:

    Yes she does.     Spoiler:- :
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  7. #132
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    That episode was really boring. Also I knew that Katherine was only a COTD and wouldn't make it to the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duh View Post
    That episode was really boring. Also I knew that Katherine was only a COTD and wouldn't make it to the league.
    She really does make it. I checked.

  9. #134
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    I disliked this filler to be honest. The whole COTD thing where she wanted Ash to trade Scraggy to her just because Gothita liked it was different I guess, but we all knew how that would end so at the same time it was predictable. Gothita being a diva was great though. I love hardcore Pokemon like that. All the Axew/Scraggy moments in general killed this episode for me though, probably because I don't care for either Pokemon and seeing them reinforce their friendship only fueled the fire of several "bromance" theories.

  10. #135
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    Default Scraggy and the Demanding Gothita!

    This episode is one of my favorite episodes of from the Black and White Saga. I liked the playful interaction between Axew and Scraggy at the start. I liked Katharine, she was cute....but I didn't like her Gothita. Katherine seemed like a nice trainer, but her complete devotion to Gothita made her look like a puppet to the annoying Pokémon. It's seemed like Katharine didn't discipline Gothita properly, she shouldn't try to give the Pokémon everything she wants. It's annoying how Gothita constantly orders Katherine about what she wants. Katharine is Gothita's trainer, so she should be the boss.....not Gothita. I didn't like how Katharine agreed with Gothita and requested Ash to trade his Axew with other Pokémon, it seemed that she only cares about Gothita....but dosen't care about her other Pokémon at all.
    Ash refused, so Katharine kept requesting him about trading Axew. I liked how she was leaning closer to Ash for making him agree with her (C'mon, kiss already you two xD) and Ash was like "A little distance, please?" LOL. It's annoying when she told Ash that his badges are fake...Geez, what's up with that attitude? I'm glad Ash's Tepig defeated her Mandibuzz . Even though I didn't like Katherine before the battle, I thought it's nice of her when she took Ash and Co. to a nearby house after the rain started.

    Axew's dream....was weird. What's up with him imagining Cilan and Scraggy like that? -_-

    I really liked Snivy in this episode. It's cool how she stoped Gothita's attempt to win Scraggy over.
    Also, the battle between Snivy and Gothita was good, I loved how Snivy defeated Gothita and showed her who's the boss. It's nice when Katharine said goodbye to Ash and Co. before chasing after Gothita. too bad we didn't get more episodes with Katharine and Gothita, they're fun it'd be nice if they showed more of their interactions with Ash and Co. before the Unova League.

    Overall, this was a fun episode, I enjoyed watching it.
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