Manetric is just a faster Electric type in that tier.
Manetric is just a faster Electric type in that tier.
That's true. The only other fast Electric type like Manectric is Galvantula. Which is also pretty powerful.
I'm debating which tier to make a team in. Nu is fun, but team building there is hard. RU is the same. UU I've just done, LC I've just done, and OU is pretty common (although I wouldn't mind making another team). Are we done with the Normal tourney? If we are, what's next?
Everyone stole my eelektross idea
Im making a troll team. I gave my eelektross volt switch u turn dragon tail and drain punch.
Im also considering running pelipper, but it has terrible stats so I might not. Plus fly is physical, but pelipper is not built for psysical so i might replace it with a more physical attacker. That can also learn fly and whirlwind, and use a move to counyer eelektrosses weakness to rock. But then flying types are also weak to rock and electric. So a ground type. I would like to use excadrill but its a uber and its weak to ground which could backfire because of its dig role. So i think ill use something different. I was origionallu thinking dugtrio but id prefer somethinh dual typed. Maybe garchomp. If it had acess to bith earthquake and dig. I assume it learns dragon tail as well. Ice weakness! I'll use a fighting type, probably ucess to quick attack and sucker punch. Im might use hitmontop because it can also use rapid spin as well. And then luxray to counter hitmontops weakneses. Howl+thunder fang & crunch with roar as a troll move.then samurott. Aqua jet and dive and swords dance and mega horn.
So yeah trolly.
Now i know how people make long competitive posts.
Galvantula still has weaknesses like Rock and Fire, so Manetric is a better option even though Ground is always going to be common.
Galvantula and Sceptile have a good chance at being a good pair. Sceptile covers Galvantula's Rock weakness (Giga Drain) and Fire weakness (HP Rock). Galvantula covers Sceptile's Flying weakness (Thunder/Thunderbolt) and Fire weakness (HP ground). And both can become good opponents as well
@Shade: we don't steal each other's sets. If they're innovative and creative, everyone will follow. I may not use Eelektross though since I've already thought of many counters for it.
Carracosta and Rotom-F are NU Pokemon, but I really like their RU sets.
Carracosta @ Leftovers
Adamant w/ 252HP/252Atk/4Def
Rotom-F @Expert Belt
Timid w/ 4Def/252SpA/252Spe
I've decided Carracosta for this RU team. Kabutops will defintely be in my UU team since I like horseshoe crabs (cutest crustacean in the world). Rotom-F can cover Carracosta's Grass and Ground weaknesses, but Volt Switch is for when I have to bring out guns for Fighting counters. With Levitate, I don't see any Ground threats besides Mold Breaker Rampardos, which Carracosta can handle. Carracosta will also be able to provide a quick STAB Aqua Jet to any Fire type in RU, all except Moltres having horrible Defense.
Medicham (non Choice) is an option, but I cannot choose between Psycho Cut and Zen Headbutt, both physical Psychic moves, but PC has higher crit whereas ZH has higher power (yes another one of these discussion).
Also, should I use a Bulk Up set for Medicham instead of the Physical Attacker? Bulk Up raises its already doubled Attack stat higher and also provides some Defense.
Gallade would be another physical Psychic type, but it lacks Thunderpunch to counter Flying weaknesses. Thunderbolt really doesn't work well with physical Pokemon.
Also, if Medicham got Parabolic Charge this gen, I can see it being ranked up to UU !
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Enough with the criticism; I need to list out the positive attributes, balancing abilities, and possible options for moves and members.
-Abomasnow needs to be issued right after Forretress sets up should Gliscor enter the field, because its Ice Shard poses a very real threat to Gliscor. Looking at its Calm nature a 2HKO woukd be necessary for Abomasnow to take care of Gliscor because the first hit of Ice Shard may be used after Gliscor uses Taunt, -meaning Gliscor wasted a turn. U-turn is a real risk, though.
-Clefable is a really good Eviolite user especially when you're giving it Cosmic Power WITH Stored Power. Add Wish and you have an ideal Stall user, so kudos to this creativity! Clefable poses a threat to all with such a set (excluding Rock and Steel types)!
-Jellicent poses a stat-reducing threat to both Scrafty's with WillO'Wisp. Although I would reccomend Hydro Pump or Water Spout instead of Scald if Wo'W is given to it. Also, because of Breloom, replace Toxic with Shadow Ball for lowering SpDef, because Poison Heal is abused and Guts is on some OU's and UU's. Shadow Ball will definitely do some good damage to Gutsy Pokemon (Sawk, Throh, Conkeldurr).
-Gengar is perfect and can switched out should a Mold Breaker Haxorus enter the field.
-I'm not a fan of NFE's in stall teams, mainly because I see Pokemon like Reuniclus showing up. Even if Copycat succeeds, Riolu may receive a move that may be detrimental to it or provide little help to it (Riolu is a physical Pokemon, if Reuniclus didn't kill it with Psychic, Riolu's Copycat becomes Psychic and that's not very good for it). Substitute has no priority to it so I'd like to offer something else.
Believe it or not, Infernape actually can do some good stalling, whilst giving up its STABs
Infernape @Chesto Berry
Timid w/ (ready?) 252HP/80Def/80SpDef/96Spe
Rest (lolwhut, Geno!)
Gunk Shot (lol no)
Sleep Talk (ahh I get it!)
Inspired by a Quagsire I met on the Battle
HaxwaySubway, Infernape has both its Rest and Sleep Talk moves. Quagsire used Bulldoze as a way of lowering my Speed. Infernape is given Gunk Shot as a means of possibly Poisoning the opponent
So you can see Infernape's battle sequence as:
.Infernape uses Bulldoze (lowering Speed)
>Infernape gets injured<
Infernape uses [Chesto] Rest
>opponent may strike last because if Bulldoze, but Infernape still gets injured<
Infernape uses Rest again (now you're really annoying your opponent)
Infernape uses Sleep Talk (okay now your opponent is raging) Bulldoze and Gunk Shot may either lower their speed again or poison them respectively
However, there are more SleepTalk Bulldozers out there (230 of them to be exact) that can provide different offense whilst also becoming a speed hazard for your opponent. I recommend having one for any team as it may be the weakest or strongest yet still be an effective player.
So I am starting to create a new NU team based around Zangoose. *Will be editing this*
Item: Toxic Orb
Ability: Toxic Boost
EVs: 4 HP/ 252 Atk/ 252 Spe
Info: With Zangoose's power and good speed, he will be able to sweep the competitors team mid - late game
Item: Heat Rock
EVs: 4 HP/ 252 SpA/ 252 Spe
Info: Great Sun Sweeper with amazing Special Attack and helps counter Alomomola
Item: Heat Rock
EVs: 28 HP/ 252 SpA/ 228 Spe
Info: Looked into it because Skylar said I should give it a look. She has Sunny day in case Exeggutor gets knocked out an dis a beast in the sun!
EVs: 252 HP/ 4 Def/ 252 SpD
Info: Is a great wall and super hard to take down.
Item: Choice Specs
Ability: Solar Power
EVs: 4 Def/ 252 SpA/ 252 Spe
Info: Has a mammoth special attack espically when he spams STAB Fire Blast in the sun with Solar Power. The power house of my team.
Ability: White Smoke
EVs: 248 HP/ 252 Def/ 8 SpA
Info: Spinner and Bastiodon's back up. Forces switch out with yawn so enemies take damage from SR
Fortuneately, HP Grass Charizard and Night Slash Zangoose seem to do well with your counters.
Dragon Dance Dragonair can have Waterfall and even though Rock'd Sunny Day may last, Dragonair can still Dance until Waterfall becomes strong enough.
Bellossom provides Giga Drain and Sleep Powder and looks like a decent counter to Rampardos that can threaten Charizard.
I like your team! I don't think there can be much to change about it since it's revolving around Zangoose.
Because Eviolite Riolu is definitely going to survive STAB Psychic from Reuniclus. You're putting a base Pokemon against a fully evolved Pokemon that has the base Pokemon's weakness. It does have Eviolite, but I don't understand why you insist STAB Psychic (50%) will not OHKO Riolu still.
Also, Roar has -6 priority.
@ skyler im making a troll team consisting mainly of pokemon who use damaga switching moves, volt swith u turn ect opponent switching moves like dragon tail roar and whirlwind. And then stuff like that. God i need mean look!
Wow, when did you get so Snivy-like (competitive boffin), Shade? I guess you have more time to do this kind of stuff. I have loads of revising to do because I have exams in pretty much every subject in two weeks, and everyone has to do loads of revision for them so we don't have time to do anything else. And then after the exam week I'll be on a residential trip for a few days. I'll be around more after that, but for three weeks I'm kinda gonna be on a semi-hiatus status.
I'm probably going to get infracted for that.
Anyway, I've been playing PMD Gates tp Infinity. It took a while to find a shop that sold it, but luckily I found one.
Spoiler:- I think someone mentioned to put stuff from this in a spoiler because Skyler hasn't got it yet:
SIGNATURES? AIN'T NOBODY GOT TIME FOR THAT
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Ground FS: Camerupt, Phanpy and ??? (Haven't been online at the same time as someone yet)
For U-Turn and Whirlwind (lol why would this combo exist?): Yanmega, Staraptor, Crobat, Braviary, Mansibuzz, Butterfree, Beautifly, Volcorona.
U-Turn and Dragon Tail: Flygon, Archeops, Eelektross and Hydreigon
Roar and U-turn: Darmanitan, Archeops, Zoroark (actually a nice troll), Infernape, Legendary Birds, Eelektros, Hydreigon.
Volt Switch and Yawn: Jolteon
U-Turn and Yawn: Uxie (troll), Liepard, Darmanitan, Accelgor (coolest slug)
Note: these are optimal fighters and users of these moves. Smeargle can obviously learn all of these combos, but I wouldn't recommend it. There are alot more that can take these combos.
Personally, I suggest Yawn and Bulldoze or Yawn and Torment for one of your trolls
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What is LC anyway? is it like super weak standalone pokemon?
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LC is an interesting tier. I haven't tried it out, but i know if i did i would use larvesta
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