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    Quote Originally Posted by epic_eevee View Post
    bh it's POTW

    give up on it xDDDD
    No, we can make it great!.. well we can if Reno would try a little harder.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crusina View Post
    Nice post Blue Harvest, I'm going to assume that post of yours involving the angry rant actually this has a lot to do with Escavalier, and definitely not Shedinja?
    It has to do with the POTW, good enough for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crusina View Post
    I don't think it has an inferiority to Scizor since the way they are played is different. Its sort of a dragonite/salamence relationship, one's faster, one's bulkier, etc, and they have overlap on many sets, but they never quite play the same way.


    I did forget to mention that He does extremely well on rain teams as you mentioned.
    Yeah except unlike Salamence vs Dragonite who actually outclass each other in different areas Scizor outclasses Escavalier in literally every way. Escavalier is garbage sadly, because its a really cool Pokemon (and its cry rocks). A little more special bulk + Megahorn is not enough to beat Scizor's infinite utility with Bullet Punch / Quick Attack, powerful Pursuits, tide turning U-turns and *not raped as bad by Heatran / Magnezone* Superpowers. 65 speed outruns a TON of stuff with minimal or heavy investment like Tyranitar, Skarmory, defensive Heatran and virtually all other walls. Escavalier's Special bulk is wasted due to the fact that it is outrun by everything and it has no priority.

    Anyone who thinks Escavalier is even remotely usable compared to Scizor has no idea how this game is played

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Harvest View Post
    No, we can make it great!.. well we can if Reno would try a little harder.



    It has to do with the POTW, good enough for me.



    Yeah except unlike Salamence vs Dragonite who actually outclass each other in different areas Scizor outclasses Escavalier in literally every way. Escavalier is garbage sadly, because its a really cool Pokemon (and its cry rocks). A little more special bulk + Megahorn is not enough to beat Scizor's infinite utility with Bullet Punch / Quick Attack, powerful Pursuits, tide turning U-turns and *not

    raped as bad by Heatran / Magnezone* Superpowers. 65 speed outruns a TON of stuff with minimal or heavy investment like Tyranitar, Skarmory, defensive Heatran and virtually all other walls. Escavalier's Special bulk is wasted due to the fact that it is outrun by everything and it has no priority.

    Anyone who thinks Escavalier is even remotely usable compared to Scizor has no idea how this game is played

    Not to mention scizor gets roost

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    Quote Originally Posted by sticktendo View Post
    SubSD
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    ~Megahorn
    ~Iron Head
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    this post made me chuckle, im not gonna lie

    but seriously, u do know that timid and modest lower attack right, that and timid makes him no faster

    protect is useless(unless using in doubles) and after laughing my *** off (again, im serious) for 5 mins, i laughed some more @ 20 base speed pokemon using sub

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    Basically, this is a better versoin of Scizor...given Trick Room. Also, it may not have Roost, but it is considerably more bulky, yet being able to hit just as hard. If you think you can protect against Fire moves moreso than the average team, screw Scizor and try Escavalier instead!

    A Rest set is plausible with either Leftovers or Chesto Berry, but the main point here to use Escavalier over someone like Scizor or Genesect is Megahorn while still having access to iron Head (advatanges over Scizor) and the super-powerful Megahorn and pure power. It also has Swords Dance to put over Genesect's head.

    Scizor and Genesect are the more tricky Pokemon. Escavalier is what you want with pure brawn and invincible bulk.

    Now for actual moves...
    Megahorn/Iron Head and their pure brute force is really all the coverage Escavalier needs. It gets walled by Keldeo and most Steel-Types. With that in mind, you can throw in a bunch of random support moves such as Toxic, Knock Off, perhaps a random Hidden Power. (60 SpAtk isn't THAT bad...on par with...Spinda.)

    This is especially important if not running Swords Dance. Aerial Ace can help against the random Keldeo, but offers little else. The bad movepool makes way for an interesting move such as Scary Face (perhaps to help setup a teammate?).

    Pursuit is another viable move, but unless you're trying to shoot down a Gengar locked into Shadow Ball, it won't help much. Due to such open space, expect Protect and Substitute to be popular moves.

    As a final note, you may complain about Megahorn's bad Accuracy. It is perfectly plausible to run both Megahorn and X-Scissor. Escavalier doesn't have much of a movepool to boast about anyway. so don't think it's counterproductive. There are just times you want a Bug STAB with perfect Accuracy and don't need the strength of Megahorn.

    As a final note:
    Karrablast + Little Cup + No Guard + Megahorn

    Good day.
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    Abilities:
    Swarm: Best ability. Abuse X-Scissor and Megahorn.
    Shell Armor: Not good not bad. Blocked critical hit.
    Hidden Ability (Not Available):
    Overcoat: Oink... oink! Useless. Only hail affects him.

    Powerhouse
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    Swarm/Shell Armour
    Brave/Adamant [252 Def/ 252 Atk/ 4 HP]
    -Megahorn/X-Scissor
    -Iron Head
    -Swords Dance
    -Reversal

    Megahorn and X-Scissor are STAB. Just choose. Iron head does the same. Swords Dance raises its Atk like insane. Reversal hit Steel types that otherwise will counter him.

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    Brave [252 Def, 252 Atk, 4 HP]
    -Megahorn/X-Scissor
    -Iron Head
    -Slash/Double Edge
    -Reversal

    Choice Band double its insane attack, which is good. Megahorn, X-Scissor and Iron Head explain itselves. Slash damage alot while Double Edge also do the same, only taking recoil. Reversal are for Forretress, Ferrothorn and Bisharp that will try to wall you.

    Other options...

    Knock Off. Since Escavalier is a powerhouse, F.E.A.R would ruin him. Knock off knocks the Focus Sash.
    Occa Berry. Reduce the damage from Fire type moves.

    Partners...
    Trick Room and Rain Dance Team would help him. I believe Slowbro, Slowking and Jellicent would be the best choice, as they cover the only weakness of Escavalier.

    Countering...
    Heatran resist the STAB of Escavalier. Droughtales is also a good choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilosophicalPsychologica View Post
    Basically, this is a better versoin of Scizor...given Trick Room. Also, it may not have Roost, but it is considerably more bulky, yet being able to hit just as hard. If you think you can protect against Fire moves moreso than the average team, screw Scizor and try Escavalier instead!

    A Rest set is plausible with either Leftovers or Chesto Berry, but the main point here to use Escavalier over someone like Scizor or Genesect is Megahorn while still having access to iron Head (advatanges over Scizor) and the super-powerful Megahorn and pure power. It also has Swords Dance to put over Genesect's head.

    Scizor and Genesect are the more tricky Pokemon. Escavalier is what you want with pure brawn and invincible bulk.
    Rest is not seen as much as it should. Plus, with both of Escav's defenses at Base 105, people need to look at all Bug/Steel Types' defenses:
    -Forretress - Base 75 HP, Base 200 Defense, Base 65 Sp.Def, Sturdy Ability gives you a free Focus Sash effect
    -Scizor - Base 70 HP, Base 100 Defense, Base 85 Sp.Def, Technician-Bullet Punch makes you more offensive than defensive
    -Wormadam - Base 60 HP, Base 95 Defense & Sp.Def, Anticipation Ability allows you to know if there's a Fire-Type Move
    -Escavalier - Base 70 HP, Base 105 Defense & Sp.Def, Shell Armor blocks Critical Hits, able to survive long enough to actually use Swarm
    -Durant - Base 58 HP, Base 112 Defense, Base 48 Sp.Def, colossal Speed advantage makes you more offensive than defensive
    -Genesect - Base 71 HP, Base 95 Defense & Sp.Def, Water-Type Techno Blast makes Fire Types think twice

    Scizor and Escav' don't compare. Same Type, HP, and near-identical Attack, but Escav' is a defensive Pokemon, Scizor is an offensive one. It's much like comparing New York- and Chicago-style pizza:
    -New York-style is designed for people constantly on the go in their routine (like Scizor on rapid offense)
    -Chicago-style is designed for people able to sit down and relax for a while (like Escav' on drawn-out defense)
    ...you can't compare Escav' and Scizor just because of their classifications. Apples and oranges are both fruit, but beyond that, not at all alike.

    However, when Trick Room is active, all bets are off. Scizor still has Technician-Bullet Punch to go first, but Escav's Iron Head beats it on damage output. Same with Megahorn, even without Swarm, VS Technician-Bug Bite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Harvest View Post



    It has to do with the POTW, good enough for me.



    Yeah except unlike Salamence vs Dragonite who actually outclass each other in different areas Scizor outclasses Escavalier in literally every way. Escavalier is garbage sadly, because its a really cool Pokemon (and its cry rocks). A little more special bulk + Megahorn is not enough to beat Scizor's infinite utility with Bullet Punch / Quick Attack, powerful Pursuits, tide turning U-turns and *not raped as bad by Heatran / Magnezone* Superpowers. 65 speed outruns a TON of stuff with minimal or heavy investment like Tyranitar, Skarmory, defensive Heatran and virtually all other walls. Escavalier's Special bulk is wasted due to the fact that it is outrun by everything and it has no priority.

    Anyone who thinks Escavalier is even remotely usable compared to Scizor has no idea how this game is played
    First of all, this is supposed to be about POTW, but since you insist on being a hypocrite and I suck at backing down I feel like I have to point out a few things.

    1. you only said "it's good enough for me" to save face for the fact that you posted in the wrong thread, about the wrong pokemon, trash talking about someone...in the wrong thread. Which I find funny.


    2. let me quote you on a few things

    Stop categorizing things. Yeah of course there are better sweepers, Heal Bellers or whatever.


    Of course there is. What's your point? The POTW is supposed to list the best possible uses of a Pokemon.
    So saying he sucks, if you don't know he sucks you don't know pokemon etc, is directly contradicting what you said earlier. Which I'm guessing you only said to make yourself look better when everyone was trashing Granbull and you wanted to act like a leader of the lost or something, now when everyone likes the pokemon in question, you're downplaying everything it can do because it makes you look intelligent because you aren't following the masses in their "it's a fantastic pokemon111!!"

    We all know it's outclassed in most area's, but as YOU said, focus on what it can do well, not what's better.

    ((see? I can attack you to! It's fun to mock people isn't it? (That's sarcasm btw))

    3. Regardless, it's obvious that you are an intelligent person, but you're starting fights, attacking people, and acting like a douche. Why don't you prove you're the better person in every area, starting with how you act, before attempting to gain any position of power?


    Now, that I've brought up all relevant points if you have a problem, PM me, PM the webmaster, but stop bringing your grievances onto these threads, and unlike me, stay on topic please. This thread is about a specific pokemon, keep the discussion on that pokemon.
    Last edited by Crusina; 14th November 2011 at 4:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilosophicalPsychologica View Post
    Basically, this is a better versoin of Scizor...given Trick Room. Also, it may not have Roost, but it is considerably more bulky, yet being able to hit just as hard. If you think you can protect against Fire moves moreso than the average team, screw Scizor and try Escavalier instead!

    A Rest set is plausible with either Leftovers or Chesto Berry, but the main point here to use Escavalier over someone like Scizor or Genesect is Megahorn while still having access to iron Head (advatanges over Scizor) and the super-powerful Megahorn and pure power. It also has Swords Dance to put over Genesect's head.

    Scizor and Genesect are the more tricky Pokemon. Escavalier is what you want with pure brawn and invincible bulk.

    Now for actual moves...
    Megahorn/Iron Head and their pure brute force is really all the coverage Escavalier needs. It gets walled by Keldeo and most Steel-Types. With that in mind, you can throw in a bunch of random support moves such as Toxic, Knock Off, perhaps a random Hidden Power. (60 SpAtk isn't THAT bad...on par with...Spinda.)

    This is especially important if not running Swords Dance. Aerial Ace can help against the random Keldeo, but offers little else. The bad movepool makes way for an interesting move such as Scary Face (perhaps to help setup a teammate?).

    Pursuit is another viable move, but unless you're trying to shoot down a Gengar locked into Shadow Ball, it won't help much. Due to such open space, expect Protect and Substitute to be popular moves.

    As a final note, you may complain about Megahorn's bad Accuracy. It is perfectly plausible to run both Megahorn and X-Scissor. Escavalier doesn't have much of a movepool to boast about anyway. so don't think it's counterproductive. There are just times you want a Bug STAB with perfect Accuracy and don't need the strength of Megahorn.

    As a final note:
    Karrablast + Little Cup + No Guard + Megahorn

    Good day.
    Scizor is better in that it can ACTUALLY hit steels and fire types with brick break and superpower (chandelure can beat both) (toxic don't hurt steels)
    so what if he have more Special attack still he doesn't compare to scizor as an offfensive pokemon with 20 speed and his main problem-m limited move pool.

    what he needs is a better movepool then there should be a POTW cause with iron head and megahorn he have really bad coverage.

    there are 5 steel/bug types

    foretress=hazards
    scizor=offence
    Durant=Hustle+ hone claws = offence
    genesect=mostly scarfed= revenge killer but can work with his 99 speed too as a Life orb user boltbeam,flamethrower,bugbuzz something like nidoking.

    excavalier.. have bad move pool he can't be a supporter his main use is trick room offence.

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    You can basically use him to scare the crap out of any psychic, or on a trick room team, or just to simply punch holes.

    But he doesn't set up hazards, can only revenge kill with pursuit really, and his weakness to fire isn't unlike any other pokemon (tyrannitar obviously is X4 weak to fighting and that doesn't stop him) but his speed and lack of means to boost it regardless means he can't handle anything with a fire attack unless it's in rain.

    Plus he can't U-turn, which would be great to save him for later if you predict a fire switch, but he doesn't get it...


    It's stupid how gamefreak makes a pokemon based on a Knight, and doesn't give it flame charge, close combat, flare blitz, anything related to charging/combat beyond megahorn basically.

    Although my excavalier once did 2HKO a bold zapdos.
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    "Then I'll shout at the goddess in fury," he said fiercely. "I'll beg to know why I've been given so much when other men have so little.”

    “And through all the misery, she said that some of us in this lifetime experience a moment of beauty beyond reckoning. I asked her what that was, and she said, "If you're one of the lucky ones, you'll know it when you see it. You'll understand why the gods have made you suffer. Because that moment's reward will make your knees weak and everything you've suffered in life will pale in comparison.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusina View Post
    So saying he sucks, if you don't know he sucks you don't know pokemon etc, is directly contradicting what you said earlier. Which I'm guessing you only said to make yourself look better when everyone was trashing Granbull and you wanted to act like a leader of the lost or something, now when everyone likes the pokemon in question, you're downplaying everything it can do because it makes you look intelligent because you aren't following the masses in their "it's a fantastic pokemon111!!"
    huh. Excavalier sucks butt. Its virtually 100% outclassed by Scizor even though Exca takes hits better / hits harder.

    If you want to use Exca in OU you need to capitalize on what its good at that nothing else can do.. which is very little.

    Excavalier @ Leftovers
    Sassy (0 speed IVs)
    Shell Armor
    252 HP / 248 Special Defense / 8 Attack

    Megahorn
    Iron Head
    Pursuit
    Protect / Knock Off

    If I was to ever be crazy enough to use Exca in OU I would use this (IN THE RAIN). Special Defense is great enough to never be 2HKOed by LO Latios HP Fire and only take ~34% from +1 Reuniclus Focus Blast. Megahorn easily 2HKOs defensive Reuniclus while OHKOing Trick Room Reun (8 attack guarantees this) and all Latios / Latias. Special Bulk takes 40% max from Gengar's LO Focus Blast letting you usually beat it. Shell Armor prevents annoying crits. LO Starmie Hydro Pump 2HKOs in the rain but even then you always survive Thunderbolt + Hydro Pump. Without Rain Hydro Pump is a 3HKO. Knock Off is good in the last slot to cripple Pokemon like Skarmory, Infernape and Heatran but Protect lets Exca live a bit longer and scout choiced opponents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusina View Post
    (Though you have to watch out for Haxorus with Incinerate, deals a massive amount of damage rendering him useless
    lololololol, wut varent u runin/

    But yeah, I'm siding with BH on this one. I'm not going to explain everything she's said already. LOL.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WeatherEffectRain View Post
    lololololol, wut varent u runin/

    But yeah, I'm siding with BH on this one. I'm not going to explain everything she's said already. LOL.
    I'm kidding about that haxorus thing XD

    And I agree for the most part, but most people use it in UU...which doesn't have Scizor anyways and the like anyways.

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    "Then I'll shout at the goddess in fury," he said fiercely. "I'll beg to know why I've been given so much when other men have so little.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusina View Post
    I'm kidding about that haxorus thing XD

    And I agree for the most part, but most people use it in UU...which doesn't have Scizor anyways and the like anyways.
    I know, that's why I was kidding. Lol.

    And yeah, that's Escavalier's selling point.

    ...So yeh. Lol.


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    I don't know if this has already been settled, but I saw a lot of people giving it swords dance on trick room sets. That wouldn't turn out too well. First, a pokemon uses trick room. Then it swaps out. Excavalier uses Swords Dance. Now it has only two turns to sweep, because you wasted that first turn on Swords Dance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Harvest View Post
    Reno listed the Shedinja set priorities out of order and mentioned ubers way too much despite Shedinja being absolutely terrible in ubers.

    Oh well its still Shedinja, kinda hard to **** that up.



    Excavalier has a Choice Band set, and Swords Dance set. It doesn't have any other viable sets but I guess Reno will list some random Counter / Flail gimmick.
    Heh, no fan of Reno?

    But on to Escavalier...

    Pretty cool looking. Great attack, good defenses. Speed most usable on TR teams (maybe worth going with Brave/0 IV Speed even if not on a TR team, to counter opposing TR teams). Shallow movepool. EXTREMELY boring.

    Swarm is an okay ability, a boosted Megahorn hurts badly.
    Shell Armor pairs pretty well with its defenses (even better if it'd ever use a defense-boosting attack, but that isn't the case), and protects you from the hax that always seem to get me.
    Overcoat is useless. It protects you from... hail?

    The only way to really make use of Escavalier is in a TR team. Or possibly a rain team. That 4x weakness to fire would force Escavalier to switch, losing the SD boost(s), under the assumption that all teams have something faster with a fire type move to take you down.
    Choice Band sure gives it a punch, but without good prediction (and some luck), that won't get you too far.

    The only "surprises" it could bring to the table would be Knock Off, Toxic or maybe Scary Face/Screech to leave the opposing poké scarred. Though they're not really threatening or likely scenarios.
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    really, excalaveir is an awesome pokemon, but is unfortionatly outclassed by scizor in every way.
    BUT
    UU classification saves it, and it can do very well in said tier. Just watch out for UU chandelure.

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    SpDef Escalavier.. I predict that this is going to turn into a defensive Granbull-esque argument.

    It does great in UU with a CB set, just watch out for Chandelure.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Schoug View Post
    Heh, no fan of Reno?
    I like Reno, its the POTW I have issues with.

    Most of my posts here aren't for the POTW, its to help guide the others here to see what good sets are and how to play well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyson9182 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by jesusfreak94 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyson9182 View Post
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    I, too, applaud the use of Hidden Power to cover Escav's one Weakness. I don't like the fact Escav' only has Base 60 Sp.Atk, but it could be a lot worse. That said, Ground or Rock could be alternative Hidden Power Types, but they wouldn't get a boost from Rain, which that particular set might also rely heavily upon.

    A Level 100, Base 70 Power, non-STAB Hidden Power (Water) with Rain and Base 60 Sp.Atk at maximum (a Sp.Atk stat of 240 with an IV of 31, 252 EVs, and a +Sp.Atk Nature), has the following results (VS Level 100, no other stat buffs or debuffs):
    -Condition, Effectiveness (example Pokemon, Base Sp.Def): Damage output
    -Maximum Sp.Def, 2x Effective subject (Ho-oh, Base 154): 80-96
    -Minimum Sp.Def, 2x Effective subject (Ho-oh): 130-154
    -Ho-oh's HP ranges from 322-416

    -Maximum Sp.Def, 2x Effective subject (Darmanitan, Base 55): 158-186
    -Minimum Sp.Def, 2x Effective subject (Darmanitan): 350-414
    -Darmanitan's HP ranges from 320-414

    -Maximum Sp.Def, 4x Effective subject (Magcargo, Base 80): 252-300
    -Minimum Sp.Def, 4x Effective subject (Magcargo): 488-576
    -Magcargo's HP ranges from 210-314

    -Maximum Sp.Def, 4x Effective subject (Solid Rock Camerupt, Base 75): 198-234
    -Minimum Sp.Def, 4x Effective subject (Solid Rock Camerupt): 390-459
    -Camerupt's HP ranges from 250-344

    -Maximum Sp.Def, 4x Effective subject (non-Solid Rock Rhyperior, Base 55): 316-372
    -Minimum Sp.Def, 4x Effective subject (non-Solid Rock Rhyperior): 700-828
    -Maximum Sp.Def, 4x Effective subject (Solid Rock Rhyperior): 237-279
    -Minimum Sp.Def, 4x Effective subject (Solid Rock Rhyperior): 525-621
    -Rhyperior's HP ranges from 340-434

    These examples show that damage from Hidden Power (Water) with Rain is quite respectable, even though it's kind of weak normally. Barring a Drought-tales, Hippow-Stream, or Sand-ranitar's intervention, you can 1-to-3 K.O. many Fire Types and/or Rock Types. As to Bug Buzz, I'd advise against with that set...

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    Sorry for the (potential) double-post. I get paranoid about editing and about submitting large posts in-general...

    Those are just examples of best and worst possible Sp.Def from the best and worst Special Defenders of those Types. I don't recommend taking Escav' to face Ho-oh, nor to stand its ground against Fire Types at all. I just posted the damage output to show my point with best- and worst-case scenarios on Move Type effectiveness and potential switch-in hits.

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    Wow! Escavalier is a pretty good pokemon. But it's super hard to get unless you know someone...But it's amazing 135 attack and it 105 special defense and regular defence are amzing. Of course we have to consider it HORRIBLE speed. Any ability would be great :P
    A Good move-set is::
    Iron defence
    swords dance
    X-sissor
    Iron head
    I would give it a shell bell :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcyzhang View Post
    Wow! Escavalier is a pretty good pokemon. But it's super hard to get unless you know someone...But it's amazing 135 attack and it 105 special defense and regular defence are amzing. Of course we have to consider it HORRIBLE speed. Any ability would be great :P
    A Good move-set is::
    Iron defence
    swords dance
    X-sissor
    Iron head
    I would give it a shell bell :P
    Leftovers outclasses Shell Bell in every way.


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    I think that with the correct nature and ev spread, Focus Blast would be a good answer to those Steel types with giant defense, but lower sp. defense...Hidden Power is in the same boat too... Add those to Megahorn and whatever else you want, and you've got yourself a bug with pretty good coverage

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