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    CBMence with Moxie boosts..


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    ^ exactly, but with DD, just use intimidate

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    lol scarf terakion outspeeds +1 salamence, which is al lthey have because any good player will switch in on that one dd, and then KO.
    You just said Terrakion, not scarf Terrakion.

    Not all Terrakion are scarfed you know.
    actually i like dw torkoal give it a white herb shell smash, amnesia and he will be faster and bulkier while being protected from critical so it will be harder to knock out, and has potential to be a mix attacker
    Though it's just barely too slow.

    I'll probably only use Moxie on Scarf Mence though.
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    Defiant+close combat+mankey=Little cup win

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romeo32 View Post
    Defiant+close combat+mankey=Little cup win
    If you drop the stat yourself from a move like that, it doesn't boost attack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Romeo32 View Post
    Defiant+close combat+mankey=Little cup win
    That would be so broken if it was true. Insta-mankey-ban


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    For everybody who ask those are not event DW pokemons, so they have both genders (as long as they have genders)

    Just wanted to list some potential pokemons that can benefit somehow from their ability and aren't useless, what abut donphan? sure he lose sturdy but he gets a hax ability same for phanpy in LC with hipototas (well this ability should be his default there).

    Hitmonlee have good potential unburden + normal gem + fake out= *2 speed hitmonlee and then he can switch moves :P (but he loses all other priority moves he have ).
    I can think of the following set:

    @normal gem
    ability: Unburden
    nature:adamant
    EV: 252 atack, 252 speed, 4 HP
    Fake out
    Close combat
    Stone edge
    bulk up/subtitute/Blaze kick

    in this set fake out= agillity

    fake out to activate unburden and get to 481-543 speed (depending on IVs) outspeeding most of the tier
    close combat is realible STAB, Stone edge provides exelent coverage
    and the last slot is for choice: bulk up for the attack boost (for lack of swords dance) subtitute for prediction and blaze kick beats some stuff.. like excaliber and can hurt skarmory a bit in OU

    the main counter to this set is gengar and piriority users like conkeldurr and physical walls can wall it (in OU) in UU it's a beast 341-372 attack with 481-543 speed (min IV-max IV) and almost perfect coverage moves with close combat and stone edge (only nidoking,toxicroak and claydol resist both moves) with kick blaze it can hit those listed pokemons.

    other options:
    earthquake- completes the stonequake combo
    return-can hit lots of pokemons for neutral coverage

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    Moxie salamence is gonna be a beast.
    DD and sweep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimm94 View Post
    Moxie salamence is gonna be a beast.
    DD and sweep.
    As stated before, DD is probably best with intimidate.

    Moxie is better off on it's Band/Scarf sets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachmac View Post
    As stated before, DD is probably best with intimidate.

    Moxie is better off on it's Band/Scarf sets.
    or mixmence with draco meteor/fire blast/outrage/earth quake
    revenge kill something slow then sweep with outrage/earthquake and fire blast is for skarmory and ferrothorn.

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    FINALLY! Moxie Salamence comes out!!! Moxiemence + Zoroark = EPIC WIN
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    I think UU Sand just got a new toy, CB Donphan.


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    Quote Originally Posted by x_vandslaux_x View Post
    I think UU Sand just got a new toy, CB Donphan.
    You know, it probably did. Especially with paralysis support.

    It would love paralysis.
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    Sand Force on Hippowdown makes him a decent wall on non-sand teams now. He's in UU so he might get some usage of Sand Force.

    Moxie is in a weird situation. You'd think it would be perfect on Salamance but then he loses either Outrage or DD. It's okay on a choice set but otherwise Intimidate is better. I find it odd that Moxie is the better of the two on DDGyarados but not on DDSalamance.
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    I think the only significant DW abilites are Salamence´s, Hitmonlee´s and Flygon´s (Kidding here) it´s a shame Flygon didn´t got anything new but oh well
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    I'm so using sand veil Donphan. Sand Veil is part of the reason why garchomp got banned. Because nothing could touch it. I'm surprised no one has mentioned unnerve Tyranitar yet.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Pichu47 View Post
    I'm so using sand veil Donphan. Sand Veil is part of the reason why garchomp got banned. Because nothing could touch it. I'm surprised no one has mentioned unnerve Tyranitar yet.
    Though everyone acts like it wouldn't of been banned without Sand Veil...Yeah right.

    Unnerve t-tar? What good is that? Sacrificing a free special defense boost to stop enemies from using berries?
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    ^I was joking about T-tar.




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    Even with those, a choice scarf terakion outspeeds. Tha'ts what I was trying to say. Even a +1 jolly salamence)or naive, whatever its nature) does not outpseed jolly scarfed terakion.
    Yep we should ban baton pass, and weather too. Oh and Trick Room, I'm tired of having to worry about Trick Room all the time. Just ban the move Trick Room, and prankster, it's broken. Ban all status moves on prankster users, they're too cheap. Oh and ban Probopass to it's so cheap. Just ban everything except Magikarp with splash.
    Well, actually Blaziken isn't really Uber because some people whined about how they were getting owned by it. I mean, it doesn't stand a chance in the Uber enviroment.

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    I think we overlooked steadfast Machamp. switch in to take a fake out, and you've got yourself scarf-champ without being locked into a move.
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    ^I sure hope that was sarcasm. The whole point of machamp is 100% accurate dynamic pawnch. without it, he's useless.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Pichu47 View Post
    ^I sure hope that was sarcasm. The whole point of machamp is 100% accurate dynamic pawnch. without it, he's useless.
    wow, that was an epic derp on my part o.O
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    Quote Originally Posted by irock245 View Post
    Even with those, a choice scarf terakion outspeeds. Tha'ts what I was trying to say. Even a +1 jolly salamence)or naive, whatever its nature) does not outpseed jolly scarfed terakion.
    Everyone isn't going to have their Terrakion hold a scarf. There are ones that will be holding life orbs and other items.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocky505 View Post
    Everyone isn't going to have their Terrakion hold a scarf. There are ones that will be holding life orbs and other items.
    And something's telling me that no one is going to send in a non-Scarf Terrakion on a +1/+1 Salamence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jesusfreak94 View Post
    And something's telling me that no one is going to send in a non-Scarf Terrakion on a +1/+1 Salamence.
    Well, here is my next point: Is there a Terrakion on every single team?

    Don't just list one or two counters and say that pokemon is bad for them. Can Heatran handle Porygon2? Can Celebii handle Blissy? Can the Scarf Terrakion you listed beat bullet punch Scizor?
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